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Sampletank sale - 40% off Miroslav 2 etc
http://www.ikmultimedia.com/news/index.php?item_id=10220
Until March 9th.
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Anyone know if Miroslav 2 contains all the content from Miroslav 1 (meaning if we purchase v2 we don't need v1)?
It works that way on the desktop version, but I'm not sure about mobile.
looking at the list of included instruments/expressions, Miroslav 2 seems to be different from 1 and not include the instruments/expressions of 1. However, whether you still need Miroslav 1 if you've got 2 is another question. Miroslav 2 looks like it's the most complete collection of orchestral instruments on iPad.
Miroslav 2 doesn't have the choirs that are in 1, or the percussion, or the church organ. It's a more limited sound set, but the articulations are of much higher quality. It's probably worth getting both while they are on sale.
That sounds great. My only hesitation in purchasing Sampletank libraries is that they can only be used 8 instruments at a time. I'm experimenting with orchestral music right now, so it doesn't work so well for that. However at 40% off, I'll probably just buy it anyway!
In the Miroslav libraries there's plenty of ensembles, entire string and horn sections for example, so 8 parts should be plenty to create a full orchestra. The articulations might be fiddly though.
Thanks for the heads up on this great sale, I have been waiting for it! Can anyone help me find out how to buy these sale priced items? In my Sample Tank APP the prices here in Canada at least are still displayed as the IAP full price. I have been going round in circles trying to find these sale ISP prices to no avail. Any help on this is very appreciated. Cheers, Elektrik Diva
Same here in Germany.All IAPs show the full prices.
Might be something to do with this:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/17/02/28/app-store-apple-music-icloud-other-apple-services-impacted-by-amazon-outage
Thank you guys that must be it! I thought I was going nuts. Schmanski I will post if I have any success good luck to you too! Thanks agin Richard for your speedy reply! Cheers, Susan AKA Elektrik Diva
Actually, on the desktop there are articulations and expressions in M1 that are not in M2. For example. In M1, solo violin has multiple articulations for pizzicato. In M2, solo violin has none. Now, if you have M1, M2 can include and use M1. If you don't then M2 is lacking some items that M2 has. I do not know what's true in ST since I only have M1 in ST on iOS. OTOH. M2 has some new articulations and expressions - particularly in the trills and glissandos.
"Pays yer money... "
I haven't bothered with M2 on iOS since iOS isn't really the right medium for seamlessly controlling the articulations and expressions as we have discussed recently in another thread here: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/17252/orchestral-music-on-ipad/p4.
So, while I might meddle with some limited orchestral work on the iPad in terms of using something like ST with M1 (or even M2), or Auria Pro with VSCO2 or SSO or even iSymphonic or TJ with SSO or the like, for me it would be limited to short pieces (under 50 bars say), and very low numbers of articulation changes.
Otherwise - per that other thread - it becomes incredibly laborious work to create something that represents a notated score.
For some work those approaches are fine; not disparaging, just observing the limitations.
For more traditional orchestral work (larger ensembles, longer and more complicated pieces) Notion is the clear winner and only real choice for me. Again, see the other thread for reasons why.
@MusicInclusive said:
Interesting, as on IK's webpage for the product they state:
"Miroslav Philharmonik 2 also contains all of the samples from the original Miroslav Philharmonik virtual instrument"
Since the articulations are basically samples, I would have assumed they would all be included based on this statement.
Yes - I meant that as part of the supplied new M2 patches and keyswitched patch groups, there are no M2 samples for, e.g., solo pizzi violin as above. One would have to shoehorn in an M1 patch alongside the M2 patches.
e.g.
Here is the combi patch for solo violin in M1. You can see pizzi there, and, you can see pizzi on the right in the possible single patch selections for solo violin, among others.
Compare with M2. First the possible articulations in the combi patch using keyswitches - using supplied M2 patches.
And then the possibilities. Note: no pizzi - although a larger selection of other runs and the like:
But, yes, you can get at the M1 patches:
... where you will find for example M1's pizzi
... but as has been pointed out, the M2 samples are better than the M1 samples. Some notably, including the strings - and in particular because they are not all over the shop in the stereo field like the M1 samples
There is also slightly better native EQing. Shoehorning an M1 patch into an M2 KS selection is ... trickier to do. 
But - they have set up KS combis - to replace the MIDI channel driven combis of M1 - using M1 patches in M2 - e.g.:
@MusicInclusive appreciate the clarification.
In regards to the iOS version, my requirements would be comparatively basic (more in the realm of soundscapes rather than scores), so I'm considering taking advantage of the sale on v2.
You're mine Brandenburg! (It's the one thing I want that I don't have yet.)
How does it compare to iSymphonic? I've never bothered with iSymphonic's IAPs, mostly because it's pretty daunting trying to decide which ones to get, but the base sounds are probably the most impressive thing to me on iOS.
That isn't on the list of discounted IAPs, unfortunately.
That is, or isn't? And, why discontinued IAPs? What is this?
Discounted, not discontinued
If you click on the link in the first post (and then scroll down), you can see the full list of IAPs currently on sale. Brandenburg piano is not shown there.
Oh phew. Looks like I need a new pair of glasses or something, lol. Man I scared the shit outta myself. Actually, Brandenburg was normally $19.99, but it shows as $14.99 currently. Even if it's at full price, I don't care. Looking for an excuse to purchase it, lol.
thanks @MusicInclusive and @richardyot for your posts, very helpfull for making a decision. There seems to be agreement that the sound quality is better than Miroslav 1, and I like the selection of instruments and articulations in 2, so I will probbaly get this while it is on sale.
Are there any decent demos out there I'm tempted by Miroslav 2 but even on sale it's relatively expensive.
Some quick and dirty examples that show the improved articulations on a solo cello. It's worth noting that in Miroslav 2 there are more articulations full stop.
Miroslav 1 Cello
Miroslav 2 Cello Sustain
Miroslav 2 Cello Detache
I'd argue those first 2 are different articulations, not that M2 is better
The first is a soft attack sustain (in M1) and the 2nd is a hard attack sustain (M2) and they are obtained differently playing the cello. It's potentially likely that one would want and need both for full expression. (Typically hard attack + sustain for the 1st note in a phrase, softer legato for subsequent notes in some circumstances. In others either / or). Some (desktop) libraries include both.
I don't disagree really, except to say that the M2 samples sound more detailed, there is more going on sound-wise in them and they are more interesting to listen to. But yes, it's useful to have both sound sets.
Thanks @richardyot for these examples. The version 2 examples do sound richer.
Here's something you might find interesting for a comparison @nick, @richardyot. OK - not done on iOS but give you a sense that there's still some mileage in Miro 1 yet (and Miro 2 alongside
)
This is a track I did using VSL samples driven by Notion for the desktop.
In comparison, here's the same track rendered using Miroslav 1 samples - again from Notion on the desktop.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qgizs9w0vo0n9vu/Miro_individual_A2.wav?dl=0
Sounds great - I have no doubt that Miroslav 1 is still plenty useful. And to be honest I'm much more likely (personally) to just use a solo cello as an embellishment to a song than I am to compose a score like that.
Joe Haydn sends you his regards...
To be clear
, it was Mr. Haydn who composed this track 
- all I did was instrument this particular MIDI in Notion, adjust the dynamics and mix it appropriately.
I do have some string works on the boil, but I haven't completed or rendered those yet.
This was mainly a test of the VSL solo strings, and I thought I'd work up a M1 comparison since I want to be able to mix and match string libraries. I have an EWQLSO comparison too, but the mix isn't right on that yet.
Anyhow, yes, M1's still got a lot of life left
and the samples on iOS in ST are a smaller subset of those - complemented now of course by M2 samples.