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Importing midi into Gadget (e.g. From TroubleMaker)
Hi...
Any way to import midi into Gadget without it automatically creating a brand new project !
What if I want to add a short Midi loop (e.g. From Trouble maker) into an existing gadget project?
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Nope. It's worthless.
Really? Jeeeez
Well you can always compose and arrange the entire song in another program and then bring it over to Gadget to switch out all the sounds you composed and arranged the song with.
Yup, felt like they just wanted to add it to the features list. Curious how importing 'audio tracks' will work.
well. the workaround is to import it into modstep and "feed" it into gadget.
just think all we need after 3.0 is midi out and then we won't need Gadget anymore. By the way, if you like landscape orientation, but you also like the hold to erase button, you can still use it by minimizing the gadget in the piano roll, holding the button, and then bringing the gadget back up while continuing to hold in the same spot. Nothing huge, but saves your musical flow from experiencing unnatural stops in the music as you spam the undo button assuming you record live on the touch screen of course lol
I love using Patterning and Fugue Machine into Gadget. So very cool!!
Haha, well we wouldn't need new Gadgets.
When the MIDI import feature was introduced, I didn't see a use for me. Haven't thought about it since. Curious now how people use it.
Thanks everyone.
I've never used it before. But I just thought I'd have a quick play with TroubleMaker (brilliant) on my iPhone and import a nice 1 bar loop into Gadget as a midi file.
The problem is that it insists on creating a brand new project for every midi file imported. Not very helpful if you want to add a couple of different acid lines to an existing project.
I guess what I'll need to do is import into BM2 on the iPhone and then play the midi live into Gadget (bit more tedious but possible I guess).
I tend to think this is down to how the sequencer is built, as it seems related to how they don't let you move patterns around easily either. I don't know if they would consider it a problem, or as part of a long play to avoid complications as the platform grows.
The new audio capability seems to rely on keeping your audio as one long file, with portions getting played in each row of the column. If you could move them around willy nilly, things could get ugly fast, I suppose.
The same goes for midi— if you import a midi file into the middle of a column in a fleshed out project, I assume everything below it in the column would move down to make way. So what happens in the other columns? What's the user expectation? What about multi-channel midi files?
Not that these things can't be worked out. I'm just not sure they want to mess with it, since 99% of their users seem happy already.
On the other hand, now they're going to be on the desktop, and the higher expectations of desktop users may force them to finally sort some of this stuff out in V.3. Maybe this is part of the delay. I hope so, as I'd like to use the app more often, but it really doesn't offer me enough editing options for my writing style.
Because Gadget isn't linear like I was used to, I've always just accepted it for what it is. It's like picking up a new instrument and learning to play it. Can't force it to be something it's not. Though not a vital function, I can imagine being able to take a MIDI sequence and import (paste) it into the current clip. If the MIDI is too long for the clip, Gadget could just truncate it. If it's multi-channel, ignore everything but the first track. If the clip wasn't empty to begin with, user choice of overwrite or overdub. I think this would be no big challenge for the Korg programmers, but apparently it's not a priority for them.
So I have found a reasonable work around (on my iPhone plus).
TroubleMaker >(export Midi)> InfiniteLooper >(play live midi)> Gadget
Works fine for what I'm doing. IL and Gadget both have Link so recording live Midi works fine.
It's a slight shame that the excellent TroubleMaker sequencer doesn't broadcast midi out because then I could capture all that nice 'morph' probability stuff too.
I've not convinced so far but have been petitioning for Troublemaker MIDI out: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/17555/record-midi-from-troublemaker
@brambos
Thanks for your input! I can understand that the original intention of the sequencer was 'light tinkering' but I think this doesn't give credit to what it has now become — a great 'performance tool' — muting notes, changing glides, altering mutation settings, loading new sequences, all while playing 'as an instrument' on-the-fly. to only be able to capture this in tiny chunks and exporting many parts seems such an inelegant and fractured workflow.
I for one would happily pay for a multichannel MIDI out IAP — one channel going to an AU of TM and others going to Oddessei and iSEM (or driving instruments in LIve), now that could result in some crazy ACIEEED mayhem!
Alternatively you could do a standalone Bram Bos version of the Social Entropy Engine, given what you've done already with your 'on the bus' sequencer I'd really like to see your take on this!
How do you do that? Modstep import seems so convoluted to me that I fear I'm doing it wrong.
There is definitely room in this folder for another @Brambos app
Come on @Brambos, give us SequenceMaker please
I second sequencemaker. Hopefully with full midi learn and link to boot
how bout phRasemaker! BOOM TSHH.