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FB video recordings
My band mates and I have been recording some videos for Facebook to draw in listeners/potential clients. We have been using a Shure MV88 into an iPod touch. The sound is better than just the iPod touch alone but still not great, granted I haven't messed with settings too much. I'm looking for any and all advice on what to consider or where to start to make a decent video. From what I've seen of the "pros" most use some type of field recorder and not sure about camera. I know that many here on the forum do this often and successfully!
Any iOS compatible gear and/or app suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey buddy, sounds like ambitious endeavor!
Answer wiese it really depends on the make up of your band; is it acoustic, electric, synth heavy, vocals? Are any elements amplified in the recording space?
There was a time long ago that many recordings were done with just one to three mics - and the band was really responsible for the mix, relying on their playing dynamics as the tape rolled.
But these days audiences really expect much cleaner multitrack recordings to get a musical idea across. But that would most likely, depending on your band, requiring many mics and either a mixing desk or DAW.... And that sounds like it may be beyond where you are at now....
From what I can see about the mv88, placement of the musicians (most likely in a semicircle, and at various distances based on the loudness of their instrument) would probably get the best results - along with a focus from each player on really listening!
If you could be more detailed in the make up of the band and the space you are in, I'm sure more specific advice will be offered...
^ Boom. Love it when the first recommendation isn't more gear. The above is definitely going to make the biggest difference. I've not used it myself but I'm guessing based on the specs that your mic is probably totally fine. Should be able to capture a realistic and very listenable representation of what it hears.
Maybe share a video with us so we can hear where you're coming from?
This little gadget might be worth a look
https://www.gak.co.uk/en/focusrite-itrack-pocket/103110?gclid=CMvkyLOM3dICFRM8GwodLmQBnw
https://www.facebook.com/TheWalkinsRock/videos/vb.23975036011/10153002483716012/?type=2&theater
Thanks guys. Above is a link to a clip of a soundcheck that we've posted, this is just an iPhone no MV88. This will be the typical setup of our videos, mostly acoustic sometimes two guitars, sometimes mandolin, always 2-3 vocals.
However, there are times that we record tunes at soundcheck as a full band: electric guitar, keys, full drums, bass and horns such as the sound clip below:
I imagine each configuration will need a different setup/equipment. I do also own an M-Audio Microtrack II but haven't tried using it for these purposes, not even sure how that would work.
Cool tracks! Clearly you guys know how to listen!
In the case of three piece video, I'd guess the mv88 should be able to do fine with the semi circular arrangement. With the focus on three part vocals tho, I'm afraid your guitarist is going to have to hold back from his street busker slamming of the strings!
Even though it's the iPhone mic, you can clearly hear companding going on, as the vocals come and go - but my guess is the external Shure might bypass that function.... So the guitarist really has to place himself dynamically in that mix.
The full band thing - very damn tight imho - I think you are pretty well SOL. Drums are loud, but horn sections!?! The size room you would need to compensate for the volume, especially considering you are trying to capture a video just seems beyond the concept of a single mic. To me it seems that track was recorded on some hand held device in a club, but based on the mix you guys were running through a PA with a fair amount of mics - right? To shoot a video with you guys in any sort of proximity to each other, with a live audio recording, I think you will have to bite the bullet and deal with a multi mic/foldback/mixing desk solution (or as far as iOS goes, a multi input audio interface into a DAW).
In any case, the single mic really requires trail and error. Try different placement, try different dynamics. Listen and try again. Once that's sorted then roll the video tape....
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@wigglelights, first and foremost, thank you for the kind words and for taking the time to provide thoughtful advice! You are correct; the second track is recorded at a club with me on keys (amps, full FOH pa, mics, etc.) and it was recorded by a friend on an iPad. Part of the issue was also that he was walking around to get different shots.
As far as the trio clip, this was done through a small PA with iPhone internal mic facing us on a stand. Would you recommend running through a PA with mics and let the MV88 pick that up, or go genuinely unplugged and let the MV88 do all the work? I sort of like the room sound...
For the trio I'd just go acoustic - but don't count it out; try it and see what sounds best.
I had a thought tho - are you wanting to use the same phone to record video with? I'm guessing yes. That mic probably would get a better sound closer to you all than would work for a camera shot. Perhaps thinking about recording audio with one phone and video with another. There are then video editing apps (I think Lumafusion? Has been getting good reviews here), and you can replace the video audio with the up close audio. A bit more work but might get better results.
And if you are in a club again - same idea might work; if you had an audio interface the FOH guy might be able to give you a feed from the console direct to a phone or iPad and mix that into the video shot....