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Johannes Dörr's new MIDI Devices

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  • @JohannesD
    I was wondering about the glorious
    iMIDIPatchbay by Johannes Doerr
    https://appsto.re/dk/stHfL.i
    It does look a bit left behind, but I seem to remember you saying not long ago, that it is definately not abandoned. Do you see this having a role in the AB3 - Midiflow Fx setup?
    This is not very elegantly formulated, but perhaps you get the meaning anyway.

  • @dwarman said:
    Q1: will MidiFlow for Audiobus have - and ideally be able to import - my self- drawn maps,

    "Midiflow Limiter for Audiobus 3" will be the app for you. It has a similar curve editor like the one you know from Midiflow. But there is no import from Midiflow, I'm sorry.

    Q2: it's a complex setup for a single instrument, is there a way to macro-ise it so it is easily used in multple setups, q is for both MidiFlow and MF for AB?

    Well, I'm not quite sure what you mean with "macro-ise", but you could save a preset in Midiflow with just the routes for the Velocity layers, and insert that preset into your current setting. Then you just edit the source and destination apps.

    It would be great if Audiobus had a similar function (inserting presets into another preset). All my filter apps have a function to copy settings between filter instances, but not to save them permanently. Maybe I'll have to add that.

  • @DeVlaeminck said:
    @JohannesD
    I was wondering about the glorious
    iMIDIPatchbay by Johannes Doerr
    https://appsto.re/dk/stHfL.i
    It does look a bit left behind, but I seem to remember you saying not long ago, that it is definately not abandoned. Do you see this having a role in the AB3 - Midiflow Fx setup?

    It is completely independent from this new Audiobus stuff. Yes, there will be an update later this year, to keep it compatible with iOS11 and to introduce some new features. It will (as before) focus on controlling external hardware, sending program changes etc. Maybe, at some point, there will be a connection to Audiobus MIDI, in order to simplify the setup when it comes to using it with apps.

  • @dwarman said:
    I am trying to reproduce in iOS the smooth and controllable Alto Sax S-550 disk

    Just listened to your demo of it in BM2. Pretty nice!

    Did you use breath control?

  • edited March 2017

    @Enkerli - no, no breath control, though I have one. There are interactions with pitch shift and that long tail DEP-5 reverb that lead to sounds not on the disk. Sounds like lips and squeals. The demo is actually of my latest attempt. There's a better experience of the vintage original in "Dave's Not Here" also on SC. Really tough to reproduce inside the iPad. I'm betting the early 12 bit electronics post-D/A are responsible for some of it. But it's my favorite jam patch, one that I can get lost in every time, and I want it in my pocket.

  • @JohannesD said:
    It would be great if Audiobus had a similar function (inserting presets into another preset).

    Yes! Sometimes, and more so with AU and MIDI FX in the picture, it would be very very handy to have the ability to save and load individual AB lanes. I think the option to "append" a state to the app's current state would pretty much do it.

  • @dwarman said:
    it's my favorite jam patch, one that I can get lost in every time, and I want it in my pocket.

    Nice! Sounds like the KX-5 made it possible to really work this patch. And your playing makes it sound like you did give this patch some love.

    Some of us wind controller users were discussing our favourite patches in another thread. Part of it is the sound itself, part of it is the flexibility.

    Not sure why it’s so hard to get similar results on iOS, though.

  • @Enkerli - the ribbon controller makes all the difference. Even on the original never got a conventional pitch wheel to give the same feel. So I'm building my iOS patch to be driven by the KX-5. Maybe a touch screen pitch wheel can get close to the ribbon.

  • Hoping this MIDI filter thing may be a way I will be able to expand my MIDI guitar 2 noodling. Currently MIDI Guitar lets you manipulate practically all of Thor's parameters simply by bending a string. You can tell Thor NOT to bend a note's pitch when pitch bend is activated but instead alter oscillator frequency, filter resonance or whatever. This gets more wacky if your using z3ta (which I rarely do coz its patch naming is broken) where you can tell pitch bend to alter wave shape etc. So what I want is an app which would give these options to all synths/apps with midi learn. Something like Thor's mod matrix but applied to other synths: guitar into MIDI guitar 2 into audiobus 3 into MIDI filter into any synth I wish. This is all likely very unlikely and MIDI guitar isn't even Audiobus ready but hey, would be cool I reckon

  • edited March 2017

    @Peteclag said:
    Hoping this MIDI filter thing may be a way I will be able to expand my MIDI guitar 2 noodling. Currently MIDI Guitar lets you manipulate practically all of Thor's parameters simply by bending a string. You can tell Thor NOT to bend a note's pitch when pitch bend is activated but instead alter oscillator frequency, filter resonance or whatever. This gets more wacky if your using z3ta (which I rarely do coz its patch naming is broken) where you can tell pitch bend to alter wave shape etc. So what I want is an app which would give these options to all synths/apps with midi learn. Something like Thor's mod matrix but applied to other synths: guitar into MIDI guitar 2 into audiobus 3 into MIDI filter into any synth I wish. This is all likely very unlikely and MIDI guitar isn't even Audiobus ready but hey, would be cool I reckon

    From the Midi Guitar update thread:

    @Santosgera said:
    Response to my e-mail:

    "Yes, AB and Apples IAA will come in next iOS update. I cant give an ETA though.."

    Best
    Ollie
    Jam Oreigin

    So they seem to be working on it.

  • @Munibeast said:

    @Peteclag said:
    Hoping this MIDI filter thing may be a way I will be able to expand my MIDI guitar 2 noodling. Currently MIDI Guitar lets you manipulate practically all of Thor's parameters simply by bending a string. You can tell Thor NOT to bend a note's pitch when pitch bend is activated but instead alter oscillator frequency, filter resonance or whatever. This gets more wacky if your using z3ta (which I rarely do coz its patch naming is broken) where you can tell pitch bend to alter wave shape etc. So what I want is an app which would give these options to all synths/apps with midi learn. Something like Thor's mod matrix but applied to other synths: guitar into MIDI guitar 2 into audiobus 3 into MIDI filter into any synth I wish. This is all likely very unlikely and MIDI guitar isn't even Audiobus ready but hey, would be cool I reckon

    From the Midi Guitar update thread:

    @Santosgera said:
    Response to my e-mail:

    "Yes, AB and Apples IAA will come in next iOS update. I cant give an ETA though.."

    Best
    Ollie
    Jam Oreigin

    So they seem to be working on it.

    Great news!

  • edited March 2017

    According to @Sebastian the apps passed the review successfully.

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  • edited March 2017

    @Max23 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @Sebastian said:

    @JohannesD said:
    Don't worry, I've recorded almost 30 minutes of demo videos...

    Holy...

    Really pleased about the demo videos. Many of us are wary (as a result of our own ignorance) as regards anything further than most basic MIDI issues and some idiot-guides to what your new work can do will make this idiot happy.

    Scale = let the cat walk across the keyboard and it will sound musical
    Scale + chord = hit any key to play half an opera
    Random velocity = make drumcomputers sound more alive / let it generate random velocities for you to get around the lack of real velocity on iPads
    Scale + chord + arp = play an opera with one finger

    You get the idea.

    :) That sums it up really.
    These tools are great for sound design if you trigger 20 arps and so on and they are great for learning stuff as well. But they should be not used to not have to learn something about harmonics, chords and other musical stuff.
    The good thing with all the tools that more people can do music, the maybe not so good is that much theory and "real" playing might get lost.
    I like it 50/50 these days.

  • Guys... try fugue machine + step poly arp. Both apps will support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI. It's really quite amazing.

  • @Sebastian said:
    Guys... try fugue machine + step poly arp. Both apps will support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI. It's really quite amazing.

    Is ChordPolyPad also going to support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI? Would be very nice!

  • @Munibeast said:

    @Sebastian said:
    Guys... try fugue machine + step poly arp. Both apps will support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI. It's really quite amazing.

    Is ChordPolyPad also going to support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI? Would be very nice!

    Not at launch day. We've only worked with a few developers until now. The 3.0 SDK will be public soon though.

  • @Sebastian said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Sebastian said:
    Guys... try fugue machine + step poly arp. Both apps will support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI. It's really quite amazing.

    Is ChordPolyPad also going to support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI? Would be very nice!

    Not at launch day. We've only worked with a few developers until now. The 3.0 SDK will be public soon though.

    Okay, thanks.

  • @Sebastian said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Sebastian said:
    Guys... try fugue machine + step poly arp. Both apps will support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI. It's really quite amazing.

    Is ChordPolyPad also going to support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI? Would be very nice!

    Not at launch day. We've only worked with a few developers until now. The 3.0 SDK will be public soon though.

    I'm guessing Gadget is also one of those apps that has the 3.0 SDK baked in ?

  • edited April 2017

    So the midiflow for AB3 apps hatched together with AB3 today. Congrats @JohannesD!

    The apps are:

    MF Monitor (free)
    MF Transposer (free)
    MF Limiter (€1,99)
    MF Splitter (€2,99)
    MF Scales (€1,99)
    MF Keyboard (€2,99)
    MF Randomizer (€1,99)
    MF Motion (€1,99)

    The bundle is €8,99

  • @gonekrazy3000 said:

    @Sebastian said:

    @Munibeast said:

    @Sebastian said:
    Guys... try fugue machine + step poly arp. Both apps will support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI. It's really quite amazing.

    Is ChordPolyPad also going to support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI? Would be very nice!

    Not at launch day. We've only worked with a few developers until now. The 3.0 SDK will be public soon though.

    I'm guessing Gadget is also one of those apps that has the 3.0 SDK baked in ?

    No, Gadget doesn't have the 3.0 SDK but I'm sure Korg will update soon. They've just been very busy getting Gadget 3.0 out of the door.

  • If I buy the MidiFlow bundle for AB3 I do not need to buy original MidiFlow?

  • @Santosgera said:
    If I buy the MidiFlow bundle for AB3 I do not need to buy original MidiFlow?

    No the original Midiflow is a standalone app

  • These are really neat, I like they way they are tightly focused on doing one thing really well. No more firing up another app and getting lost in complexity before the creative spark dies just add one or two of these into the chain and away ye go.

    Might just pick up StepPolyArp for the hell of it, also looks great.

  • edited April 2017

    Excuse the minor self-quote and sense of entitlement, but please someone make this!

    @Dchild said:

    I'd love to see an midi device that can take an incoming chord, and send individual notes to different destinations. And then rotate each note. Much like the app polymer for OSX

  • @iamspoon said:
    Excuse the minor self-quote and sense of entitlement, but please someone make this!

    @Dchild said:

    I'd love to see an midi device that can take an incoming chord, and send individual notes to different destinations. And then rotate each note. Much like the app polymer for OSX

    +1
    and an app that generates chords in the first place (harmoniser)

  • @iamspoon said:
    Excuse the minor self-quote and sense of entitlement, but please someone make this!

    @Dchild said:

    I'd love to see an midi device that can take an incoming chord, and send individual notes to different destinations. And then rotate each note. Much like the app polymer for OSX

    You might want to look into Fugue Machine for creating some of this functionality for chords that are 4 notes or less. You can enter chords into a Fugue Machine pattern, then send each note to a different destination. Rotating the notes maybe more difficult but you can set different tempo, playback modes, and start times to get some polyrhythms going with chords. It's not exactly what you're looking for but it might be worth exploring.

    Alternatively you can see if there's a Lemur template that has this functionality or close enough to it so that you can modify it to suit your purposes or roll your own.

  • That's a pretty interesting idea, thanks.
    Never really got to grip with Lemur beyond editing some ready made templates though.
    Anyway, I think an AB3-ready solution would be best for obvious reasons : )

  • edited April 2017

    Audiobus 3 + midiflow key splitter app combo, seems perfect for live shows. (I can see it replacing iMIDIPatchbay as my main MIDI tool for live shows and stop fearing its demise by iOS 11)

    I'm not buying audiobus 3 right away (saving some money for now) but here's my question for anyone who can answer:

    The splitting only works with apps that support audiobus 3 fully, or any app (or AU) will work with it?

  • @Sebastian said:
    Guys... try fugue machine + step poly arp. Both apps will support state saving and Audiobus 3 MIDI. It's really quite amazing.

    Somebody should make a video for this! Tried last night for a few mins. Got something going - but nothing close to amazing. If not a video - maybe a deeper explanation of using the 2 apps together?

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