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  • Yes please. The $64,000 question is of course........ what will the purchase price be?

  • edited March 2017

    I'll throw in a guess. $349

  • It really looks finicky and too light, like you're going to accidentally snap it in half. But if the price is right...
    And has anyone remarked around here about how there seems to be a peculiar shortage of OP-1s? Can't find them, and when you do, they're with a huge markup beyond the already-kind-of-nuts $840 retail price.

  • I think it's probably gonna be in the 500 range.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    It really looks finicky and too light, like you're going to accidentally snap it in half. But if the price is right...
    And has anyone remarked around here about how there seems to be a peculiar shortage of OP-1s? Can't find them, and when you do, they're with a huge markup beyond the already-kind-of-nuts $840 retail price.

    Yah even used there is not much of a savings.

  • edited March 2017

    I am curious just how much processing (custom chip set maybe?) is going on in this. I wonder if or when a virtual one could just run on an iPad.

  • edited March 2017

    @robosardine said:
    Yes please. The $64,000 question is of course........ what will the purchase price be?

    Teenage Engineering stuff always looks great and kewl, and because of that there's a market for it. But it comes with a pricetag that's beyond my apprehension probably everything to do with exclusivity. If this OP=Z was priced like a Korg Volca it would be okay, be I guess it will cost at least 5 times as much. And for that price I rather stick to iOS which is so much more flexible when talking about music making and apps.

  • Seems like a much more direct competitor to the electribe 2. Which isn't bad but it seems a bit unintuitive

  • I thought I remember seeing in one of the preview videos that they were going to consciously try to get the price down to a reasonable level.

  • @greengrocer said:

    @robosardine said:
    Yes please. The $64,000 question is of course........ what will the purchase price be?

    Teenage Engineering stuff always looks great and kewl, and because of that there's a market for it. But it comes with a pricetag that's beyond my apprehension probably everything to do with exclusivity. If this OP=Z was priced like a Korg Volca it would be okay, be I guess it will cost at least 5 times as much. And for that price I rather stick to iOS which is so much more flexible when talking about music making and apps.

    If I'm not mistaken, it comes with an app component. But while I really covet an OP-1, the rest of their gear looks stupidly fragile. And the pocket operators don't sound particularly special either. Why this rockstar reputation? Teenage Engineering is a Harvard Business School case study waiting to happen.

  • The op-1 is an enigma. I sold my first one because i couldn't force it into my standard practices. What it excels at is playability and happy experiments. The 4 synth knobs are a magical mystery tour. I couldn't tell you what they do on most of the synths even though i read a ton about them when i first got it. But you twist and cool shit happens and there are apparent changes but you can't go wrong. Trying to build a song in it is enough to drive you crazy but feeding it into aum or gadget or whatever is killer. And performing on it, with it's wacky lfo's and motion sensor and crazy arps brews something fresh each time.

    Was surprised that they are hard to find and ao expensive now. Never seen that happen with a non vintage digital instrument.

    And tonic, the newest pocket operator, sounds awesome. Kinda gassing for it. Only thing that has me halted is that if you sync it to the op you lose stereo. One mono out and one sync channel.

  • Spot on about the op1, it's a tiny little thought experiment that is extremely portable. Nothing quite like it. This has some cool stuff not that I got to the trig conditions and transposition smarts in it, but it still feels like it's doing a lot of the heavy lifting and not leaving quite as much to the musician? I dunno. I'm sure I'll need one on launch day

  • Red Means Recording on youtube is a magician on the op-1. The music he makes is amazing

  • The tactility of the op1 always seemed appealing, although i have never been hands on... the opz just seems sort of like an oversized tv remote to me. :-/

  • The lack of tactility on the OP-1 is why I sold mine to be honest. Some really fun ideas, but to make it that well-built and then put those annoying little on/off keys on it drove me nuts. Even rudimentary velocity sensitivity would have made it an expressive instrument I would have kept forever.

  • @ExAsperis99 said:
    Why this rockstar reputation? Teenage Engineering is a Harvard Business School case study waiting to happen.

    They are doing things their own way, and have a very inviting vibe about them, cuckoomusic promo video as case in point.

    @AudioGus said:
    the opz just seems sort of like an oversized tv remote to me. :-/

    Seems like it is designed more with the sequencer in mind.

  • @Tarekith said:
    The lack of tactility on the OP-1 is why I sold mine to be honest. Some really fun ideas, but to make it that well-built and then put those annoying little on/off keys on it drove me nuts. Even rudimentary velocity sensitivity would have made it an expressive instrument I would have kept forever.

    disclaimer: semi topic derailment but pertinent imo

    in lieu of an op1 as an ideal companion to the iPad (read portability, battery and sync) which do you prefer? electribe or circuit or something else i'm not thinking of...mostly for extra melodic tracks (ambient washes, arps). i've seen elsewhere that you really like the circuit but a friend of mine keeps ragging on the sound (never seen one in person). i had the electribe sampler once for a short while and couldn't deal with the file management or bar count but would go with the non sampler and wouldn't be using it for song building,...just multitracked loops to add to what i'm doing in the iPad. the op1 can do this of course but even though i have had good experiences with this, it's a little fiddly and better served to create stuff that i can cut up well and use elsewhere.

  • @vpich said:

    @Tarekith said:
    The lack of tactility on the OP-1 is why I sold mine to be honest. Some really fun ideas, but to make it that well-built and then put those annoying little on/off keys on it drove me nuts. Even rudimentary velocity sensitivity would have made it an expressive instrument I would have kept forever.

    disclaimer: semi topic derailment but pertinent imo

    in lieu of an op1 as an ideal companion to the iPad (read portability, battery and sync) which do you prefer? electribe or circuit or something else i'm not thinking of...mostly for extra melodic tracks (ambient washes, arps). i've seen elsewhere that you really like the circuit but a friend of mine keeps ragging on the sound (never seen one in person). i had the electribe sampler once for a short while and couldn't deal with the file management or bar count but would go with the non sampler and wouldn't be using it for song building,...just multitracked loops to add to what i'm doing in the iPad. the op1 can do this of course but even though i have had good experiences with this, it's a little fiddly and better served to create stuff that i can cut up well and use elsewhere.

    I love my circuit but find a second iPad is the best companion to an iPad.

  • @AudioGus said:

    @vpich said:

    @Tarekith said:
    The lack of tactility on the OP-1 is why I sold mine to be honest. Some really fun ideas, but to make it that well-built and then put those annoying little on/off keys on it drove me nuts. Even rudimentary velocity sensitivity would have made it an expressive instrument I would have kept forever.

    disclaimer: semi topic derailment but pertinent imo

    in lieu of an op1 as an ideal companion to the iPad (read portability, battery and sync) which do you prefer? electribe or circuit or something else i'm not thinking of...mostly for extra melodic tracks (ambient washes, arps). i've seen elsewhere that you really like the circuit but a friend of mine keeps ragging on the sound (never seen one in person). i had the electribe sampler once for a short while and couldn't deal with the file management or bar count but would go with the non sampler and wouldn't be using it for song building,...just multitracked loops to add to what i'm doing in the iPad. the op1 can do this of course but even though i have had good experiences with this, it's a little fiddly and better served to create stuff that i can cut up well and use elsewhere.

    I love my circuit but find a second iPad is the best companion to an iPad.

    very true

  • Circuit for me hands down. I think it's one of the most fun bits of music gear released in many years if you're into electronic music. I could see a second iPad offering more options, but I don't like redundancy in my workflows personally. Plus in a lot of ways the Circuit is almost the opposite of the iPad, only hands on physical control and barely any reliance on a the visual aspect. Sort of a yin yang thing.

  • @Tarekith said:
    Circuit for me hands down. I think it's one of the most fun bits of music gear released in many years if you're into electronic music. I could see a second iPad offering more options, but I don't like redundancy in my workflows personally. Plus in a lot of ways the Circuit is almost the opposite of the iPad, only hands on physical control and barely any reliance on a the visual aspect. Sort of a yin yang thing.

    Yes, all good points. If it had better iOS connectivity (editor, session management, sample loading etc) that would be great, but the dependancy on a PC is a bit of a downer.

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