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Tonestack missing from AB2 inputs
Just bought a new iPad, loaded all the apps from scratch instead of restoring. But now my favorite guitar input app is missing from the AB2 input slots. It works just fine in effects slot, but that does me zero good since I wanna play my guitar into Group The Loop or Loopy HD!
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So getting a bit frustrated I decided to go nuclear and restored the iPad from my old iPad and then restarted the new iPad. Still not working.
I also couldn't find it in the input slot in AB2 or AB3 but I thought maybe it was never available as input. Never really used it in AB2 before yesterday because I preferred to put it into AUM.
Just checked on my iPhone 6s. Showing up for me in AB2 input . iOS 10.2.1
Have you tried launching AB - then ToneStack on its own. Then going to the AB input list. I've had apps not show up before then Do after launching app by itself
I just checked on an iPhone, and it was missing at first, but then appeared as an Input after I manually launched the app and looked in FX and Outputs.
Launching ToneStack first made it appear in the input of AB2. In AB3 I couldn't make that happen.
I'm getting the same as @ Munibeast. Tonestack isn't listed as an input but after I go in and launch it manually it shows up. Other apps have behaved the same in the past. Can't remember which though.
Ok so I launched AB with one of @flo26 presets and now Tonestack is showing up. However when I reset AB2 by closing the app and then deleting it from memory (double click on home button, swiping up), then TS doesn't show up again.
Ahah, this makes it work properly. So, the routine now has to be to launch TS first, then AB into whatever destination app. When you say AB3 you couldn't make that happen, does TS not show up in the input slots in AB3?
I don't know that you need to launch ToneStack first, but it seems it needs to be launched manually to show up as an Input.
I noticed this problem a few days ago with it not showing up in the output slot.
It shows up fine in the effects slot.
My workaround:
Momentarily install it in effects
Eject it from effects
It will now show up as available in the output slot
I don't know if this will work for the input
Works for the input in AB2, but not for AB3. I haven't been able to get it to show up in the input slot of AB3 through any method.
We've cleaned up the app list by only showing effect apps in the effect slot. It was like that years ago, then we changed it to show up in output and input slots as well (because technically an effect has an input and an output).
Right now the intended way to use effect apps in the audio section is to launch it in the effect slot and then adding the system microphone input (or the audio channel of your audio interface that should be routed into it) in the input slot.
We thought that was obvious because that's how physical effect pedals work and because that's how Audiobus worked until version n 2.2 (if Imremember clearly).
Does that make sense?
Not if you want to use another effect after tonestack in the chain.
Have you tried to add the post FX in IAA pedal, inside the ToneStack? It could works for you temporarily...
My apologies for poor and wrong English!
Thanks. Sure, I do that all the time. In fact, it's the best way because you can put the FX anywhere in the chain ... except if it's an AU FX.
I'm was just trying to help @Sebastian understand why some would like to have it act differently.
And your English is just fine!
@Sebastian, nvm. I'm an idiot. Of course you can still use other FX before and after it in AB. Believe it or not, I've never even tried.
So it makes sense as an FX only, but is bound to confuse some people at first..
@Sebastian Is there any way to send Midi to it from something AB3 compatible such as MIdi LFOs that way though?
Well now that you explain it that way it definitely makes sense. But it is not at all intuitive to me, which is why I didn't try it. I think of Tonestack as the equivalent of a synthesizer or anything else in the input slot... the input slot is the instrument or sound generator. But that same thinking could apply the way you've described it.
Anyway your post was helpful. I'll try it that way using the audio interface as the input.
I'll just add, that most of the users were using TS the way I was. All of the presets that have been shared and I have stored put TS in the input slot. So it wasn't just me!
Do you mean place ToneStack in the EFFECT or OUTPUT slot of the MIDI section in Audiobus? If so, the answer is no. However, you could put a MIDI receiver in the MIDI OUTPUT slot, then affect that using ToneStack in the AUDIO EFFECT slot.
I don't know why you couldn't just add another effect after it. It's totally possible to add more than one.
Yeah, I get it. I guess it's two different ways of thinking. But it's working for you now, right?
Yeah, I figured that one out a few minutes after posting. (face palm)
Actually, this is consistent with the way Tonestack works in AUM. It only shows up as an effect. It's just different than it worked before in AB, which for me at least, isn't an issue now that I understand it.
I still don't understand how to send MIDI to Tonestack from within AB if it can only go in the Audio FX slot. If I can't put it in the MIDI output slot then I'm back to sending MIDI to it from outside AB. I can work with that, but I don't really think that's your intent. Am I missing something about how I can route MIDI to Tonestack from within AB.
It seems to me like I should be able to do something like have my keyboard, or like Midi LFOs in the MIDI input slot, Tonestack in the Midi Output slot, and then Tonestack in the audio FX slot. Maybe I'm missing something?
For any AB compatible app, it needs an update to be compatible with AB3 before it can do anything with AB3 MIDI. ToneStack hasn't been updated since December.
Ahh. I hadn't realized. There are a lot of apps that I don't think are AB3 compatible that I can control with AB3 MIDI. At least I think so...
Maybe there are just more apps than I think that have updated. No time to check ATM.
Hi @Sebastian, no it isn't working. When I put the app into the effect slot it does not work. When I start the app prior to starting AB2 and then TS shows up as available to the Input slot it works just fine, just like it used to.
When I do it your way I get no love.
It's working fine for me. Are you sure you have both an system input and an output assigned? They don't show up by default - you have to add them.
Ahhh, system input may have been missing. I'll check it out tonight once I can visit with my iPad again. Thanks!
That was it, I forgot to change the input. Now it is working fine, though I've also just discovered AU and finding that works better with QuantiLoop anyway.