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best wireless MIDI options these days?
What is the best way to go these days? just connecting bluetooth directly to your computer through the OS (in my case Mac)? Or using an app like Midimttr? What have you found that works best?
Also, is StudioMux still an option? Just want the most simple way to connect and keep a steady connection!
thanks for any tips!
Greg K.
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oops, I see that Studiomux is not really a "wireless" option...
I can recommend the Yamaha BT MIDI dongles
https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/music_production/accessories/md-bt01/index.html
Using both on a regular basis.
Each have their advantages, but I tend to like the 5 pin version the best. Makes all my older controllers usable with IOS. Very stable - very low latency.
But of course, not all controllers have 5 pin MIDI, so the USB version has it uses too. One drawback is the need for external power.
Just have a look...
akaipro.com/product/lpd8-wireless
akaipro.com/product/lpk25-wireless
cme-pro.com/xkey-air/
I received a Yamaha md-bt01 Bluetooth transmitter two days ago. I hoped it would work, but no joy. It just went from no LED light for 2-3 minutes to lights on for 2-3 minutes, then back to no light (rinse and repeat). It never produced any Bluetooth signal at all. I used MidiMittr, Yamaha Digital Piano Controller, and a bunch of other BT midi apps (mostly Yamaha apps) but none of them found a signal. I tried with two different iPads, both with BT activated - no joy.
My understanding is quite a few of these md-bt01 devices arrive DOA like mine. The build quality is low. Make sure you purchase from a reputable retailer who pays return shipping.
I have no idea how long the "good" ones last. Bluetooth gear is so often disappointing, whether mice, keyboards, whatever. I don't know why I wasted my money and time. The md-bd01 is going back.
I'm interested in this subject as well.
The Wej is fantastic, although a little pricey.
that is on my list as well.
I have the Yamaha MDBT101.. Works perfectly running my Colossus piano through my Yammie NP32 keyboard.
I also have the Korg Mikrokey AIR61 which is also a joy to use, even more so.
If you happen to have an old iPhone 4s laying around you could attach it to a line 6 midi mobilizer 2 which are dirt cheap on eBay now
What's wrong with a wired solution? I've been testing MIDI out on KRFT and I find it has the lowest latency & is the most stable. Enlighten me!
Its all because of mom.
Look mom no wires !
Ah ! I get it now
I have macbook pro and if(or more like when as 2/3rds of my midi sending hardware goes through it) i want midi from computer to ipad i use the native bluetooth thing. Works like a charm and no noticeable latency. I also use this app called midipipe(its free) on mac to route my midi, so that i dont have to use some daw or other heavier programs to select where to send what midi sources(it also has some midi filters similar to some on ab3). Basically you just advertise bluetooth on either the ipad(most apps cant do this, but quite a few can, and you just need it for connecting, then midi works to all apps, i usually use steppolyarp or chorpolypad), then click connect from other device. And select midi sources on computer to send to ipad on midipipe(keep in mind that if you disconnect the bluetooth connection, the ipad output on midipipe goes offline and stick to offline even after you re-establish the connection, so you need to reopen midipipe each time you want to set the connection, but its easy to just save a template(or "pipe" as they call it) and open it).
I can tell you more detailed instructions if you need. Its a bit hassle to figure out first.
Edit. Keep in mind that you need a mac that supports the new bluetooth LE(/4.0). Not sure which ones are the oldest, but my mid 2014 mpb has it, and i think one before had it also, but not sure.
Has anyone tried Apollo MIDI over Bluetooth? I have never had the need for wireless MIDI, so I haven't had a chance to try it. I believe it is FREE. Seems worth looking into....
I see Midi Mobilizer2 for $8-10 shipped. Reviews on Amazon and eBay are not good (2-3 stars overall) due to latency and other issues. Also, it's not a Bluetooth device. Also, no option for USB MIDI.
What I thought about doing is using one of my Apple Camera Connector Kits (100% reliable MIDI input) with a USB cable from my MIDI keyboard into my iPad Mini, then broadcasting Bluetooth MIDI from my iPad Mini. It's probably dead simple once I look in the right place but I just haven't figured out how to make it happen. Does anybody know how to do this? Are there any free apps that set up BT MIDI broadcasting? I tried MidiMittr and several of the Yamaha apps but no immediate success. I need to spend more time on it.
I see the $5 Apollo MIDI Controller app claims this feature. I wonder how well it plays in a AB3 universe?
BTW, there's a temptation to use Apple's CCK with an iPhone, but last time I tried it was still a "no joy" situation. Apple specifically markets the CCK for iPad-only. I think it's pure product differentiation BS to make people buy iPads rather than any hardware limitation of modern iPhones. Regardless of rationale, Apple CCK buyers beware! Maybe this is where the $8-10 MIDI Mobilizer fits in.
I know it's not Bluetooth, but if you attach it to an old iPhone 4s you can use the phone as a BT transmitter in much the same way as you are thinking of doing with the iPad mini.
I've found midimittr works pretty well the first things you need to do is press the hamburger then select advertisement and enable the device to advertise itself as a BT midi connection.
Thereafter it's reasonably self explanatory
Just the wires really. I have my iPad working great through my iConnectMIDI2+ but sometimes its good to have another wireless option so I can keep it charging. MIDI LE seems to work ok but I lose connection quite often.
I actually tried to get this to work before I posted but could never get the OS bluetooth to see the iPad. Would it be too much trouble to post the steps?
Also, thanks @Lady_App_titude, I'd forgotten about Apollo! I should give it a try as well.
Oops, I posted too soon. I have MIDIMittr working between my iPad Mini and my iPad Air2. No need for the Yamaha or Line6 dongles. Will test it further after I get home from work.
On mac side go to audio midi setup and to midi studio window(from the upper tab thing select window and midi studio if it opens on the audio side). Then click the bluetooth icon on it and click advertise. Now go to some app on the ipad that has bluetooth midi(ac sabre, steppolyarp, chordpolypad are few, but there are others) and select connect to the mac from the bluetooth midi setup. You can also advertise it on the ipad and connect from mac, in that case the ipad should show on the list under where you would push the advertise button. If you use some daw that can route midi, then just select the destination to be the ipad. But if you dont want to use a daw and just want to send midi through the computer. Get midipipe. Add input to the "pipe", select what input you want it to be, add more inputs or midi filters/other tools it has you want(the pipe goes from top to bottom, so if you add a filter just before midi out, all inputs gets filtered by it), then put output to the pipe and select ipad as the output. Save the pipe to desktop(or elsewhere where you can find it easily) and open midipipe from that save icon, so that you dont have to build the pipe every time again.
I dont remember it needing any initial setup.
thanks so much! This works! For some reason the iPad does not show up as online in the Audio MIDI Setup window but I can detect my desktop from my iPad and connect that way. Thank you for spelling it out!
No problem. It only shows as online when you advertise it on the ipad, took me a while to figure it out, since it still shows on the list, but just says offline.
Following with keen interest: I have a BT01 on order to use my AX7 Keytar with my iPad wirelessly
I'm going to pipe up again for the Wej. It's cheaper than 2 puc+'s and pretty straightforward. It's well built and it works. Midimittr has also never treated me wrong.
Wireless MIDI is relaly useful for running around the stage with a Keytar! why else would you want it ?
So you can keep the iPad on charge for one reason.
its not wireless but it is awesome.
Wireless midi is the future
currently there is too much latency for me.
Apollo is great, but I recently replaced it with AUM that includes Bluetooth, and it works even better, and it's just one app now controlling audio+midi bluetooth.
I didn't notice any latency with these 2 apps.