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Rode NT USB Microphone
Anyone using one of these?
I have a question. Currently I use just the iPhones built in mic with vocal processing apps (including IK's VocaLive). I then use the iphones audio out to take the processed audio into a channel on my hardware mixer. This means I can process the sound live as I speak/sing and then mix it with my other tracks. Can anyone confirm that when using a USB microphone like the Rode that the iphones audio out still works? The reason I ask is because the Rode looks like it takes the audio back in from the iPhone so you can monitor through headphones connected to the mic itself. So I'm not sure if that will stop the iphones audio out working. Not sure if I've explained myself well?
Thanks in advance for any advice :-)
Alex
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https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B41GUi__USywMGZKZTBVNTREU2c
I use the rode nt usb mic and I can monitor it with either my iPad headphone jack or the mic jack. I posted this song using it to record my guitar and vocal simultaneously. This was done in cubasis btw, not sure if that makes a difference
Thanks, I might but one in this case. Nice song by the way :-)
Well thats excellent sounding. Thinking about buying the Rode nt usb, and this is an excellent sound example. Thanks for this post, Bernie. Indeed, nice song
great song, very (!) nice voice and skilfull guitar picking ...
but far from excellence in (microphone) sound - there's a lot of unnatural grain in some pronounciations, which even that amount of reverb didn't blur out.
Specifically 1.10-1.25 and the repetition around 3.20. May read a bit overpicky, but those sounds are what challenges a mic and define it's quality.
ps: just checked the price and would frankly call it a ripp-off for a 16bit converter unit.
I'd rather vote for the Shure Motiv MV51 as a mobile solution.
Its better to get an audio interface and an xlr mic. Headphone out is quite much worse than output of audio interfaces, so the audio quality wont be as good when you send it to your mixer(also if your mixer has spdif ports and you get audio interface with ones, you can get it over at even better quality). You can also use the audio interface for other stuff as well, you get separate outs for speakers and headphones etc. Its just overall way better solution. Not even going to go with how much better it is if you get one with midi ports.
I have heard that its a decent mic, but basically when you buy it, you pay for the usb audio interface built in it + the mic. Having a dedicated audio interface is better than something built in to a mic, also equal quality mic that is non usb will be cheaper than that. Also when you want to upgrade, you dont have to upgrade the whole thing, but can just upgrade only the mic or audio interface.
These usb mics in my opinion, are pretty much a gimmick trying to ride on the "this thing is the most portable thing on the world, even tho you will never take it out of your home, you still want it because we advertise it as portable and easy solution" wave that seems to be the theme with a lot of gear nowadays.
I can see why some podcaster who just wants decent quality audio to computer without having to think about anything else than plugging in a usb device would like an easy usb mic setup, but if you want to make music, better get audio interface + xlr mic instead.
Well, I hear nothing disturbing around 1:10-1:25 and I have good headphones (Beyerdynamic DT 880 Premium Edition). It all sounds very good to my ears. But I must add that I have little experience with decent vocal recordings.
Thank you for advising the Shure Motif MV51. I made a little typing mistake and googled the MV5 (instead of the 51
) and the MV5 has good reviews and has a nicer price tag (half the price of the 51 or the Rode). I have to look into the 51 yet. The 51 and the Rode have the same price tag (cause the Rode needs an extra Lightning to usb adapter). The Rode has for me some advantages: the included popfilter, the positive words from users, the sample from Bootsie which I think is excellent.
The Shure MV5 also appeals to me cause of the better price, and the good user reviews I read on Amazon (a lot of podcaster reviews there but also positive reviews from singers).
I think the grain might be more pronounced because of proximity on this setup. If I had recorded the guitar into it having it setup right in front of the soundhole and then recorded my vocal, the way I normally do, right up on the mic it might have sounded better. I was trying to get the all one take with one mic thing. But not too bad considering. Of course you get better results with an interface and regular condensers, all of my other recordings were done that way. I don't think it's that far off for what I'm using it for..
well, I referred only to your voice - the guitar is taken very well in that recording.
Putting a mic in front of the soundhole is asking for (boom) trouble immediately
In fact I had to read twice that it was a 1-take, really good job.
I don't want to put the Rode down, just add some perspective - it is quite expensive for what it delivers.
I had one but traded in for the Apogee mic96k because of portability. It's a very nice sounding mic, though.
Well not right up to it, but in front of it as opposed to in the middle between my mouth and the sound hole. I do know how to mic a guitar.
I've been using a Shure MV51 for the last few months while my gear was in storage and I'm pretty partial to it. It supposedly has a pop filter built in (inside the microphone) and I've not had any problems with plosives sounds from it.
IMO the convenience you get from a lightning mic is actually worthwhile, because the ease-of-use is much greater than having to connect an interface, plug it in to the power outlet, get the condenser mic, XLR cable etc. So I find myself using the USB mic quite a lot even though I have a Focusrite interface and 3 condenser mics at my disposal. For some things the convenience trumps the additional quality that the condensers might bring (in fact it's character more than quality, the MV51 is pretty good IMO, the condensers just all have their own sound and character).
speaking of plosives: the Rode thing is more or less an alibi - avoids the worst effects but a good pop-killer like Rycote Invision or Pauly P120 is very different.
@richardyot - thanks for your comment on this topic. My thoughts exactly about convenience vs (possible) better quality (or character). Nice that you are happy about the Shure MV51. And that you like and use it even though you have xlr mics.
Yep, as mentioned in SOTMC Marcel, it is ease of use and nothing too techy with many wire things. When trying to bang out one a month (two if Covers Club) in limited space and even less time, it mattered to me. It could be classed a tad on the heavy side, if that matters to you, and after upgrading to the Rode SM6 shock mount with double skinned 'spite filter' I find the 'F's sound far more tender. I'd still love to give a grown up mic a good seeing to mind.... Good luck. I'm sure most will do a more than adequate job sir.