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Routing Audio from Logic Pro X thru iPad and back to LPX?
I'm not saying I want or need to do this, but is there an easy way to route an audio track in Logic Pro X via lightning cable to the iPad... funnel the signal through AUM or AB, then route filtered audio back into another track in LPX?
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I don't think so, the iPad can be set up as an input in Audio MIDI settings on OSX but I don't see a way to send audio to it.
Studiomux, but there is still some latency on my ipad mini 2, maybe it is better on newer ipads
There is the hardware route via iConnectivity devices (less latency) or the software route via MusicIO, StudioMux etc (more latency).
It can be done in a similar way like this with using the iPad as an audio effect instead (which I don't have a video for):
Hey @hellquist - is it possible to use an iConnectivity interface with Mac / iPad and then plug an additional audio interface into the mac's usb to create an Aggregate device?
I use my Line 6 Helix to connect my guitar and MIDI pedals to the iPad at the moment, but I am having fantasies about running Ableton Live on the mac whilst my iPad does Group The Loop, ThumbJam, MIDI Guitar and so on..
I wonder what the latency would be for:
Guitar In -> Helix -> Helix USB to Mac aggregate device -> iConectaudio -> iPad via CCK -> Group The Loop app ->
.....then in reverse back to Helix.
Aye @ricksteruk. I use my ICM4+ together with my Roland Duo Capture EX as an aggregate device. Just take care how/where you place the in/out devices in the aggregated device. I haven't explored and tweaked it optimally, but I would guess you'd need some serious fine tuning to not experience latency.
These days I keep to one place, currently my iPad Pro, predominantly, to avoid inter-device latency.
Sending in one direction is almost always fine. Round-trips are tricky though.
I wonder if it's possible using just the lightning USB cable and the built in Audio Midi setup creating an aggregate?
Let me more specifically describe what I'm trying to do. Any latency would be of no concern. And, I think that there should be a way to do this without additional hardware or software, with the exception of possibly Soundflower.
What I'd like to do is have an audio track in Logic Pro X and have my iPad connected via lightning cable. I'd like to send that audio track out from LPX and accept as input on the iPad via AUM or AB, add some effects like frekvens and apeFilter to the input coming from LPX into the iPad, and then send the output of AUM/AB back into LPX onto another track, or even the same track (if possible).
In other words, instead of sending my audio track in LPX into an LPX filter plugin for inline/realtime processing, I want to use the iPad as a filter plugin effects processor in the same capacity, but within the LPX environment.
Yes, I know I could just export out the audio file out of LPX and import into the iPad, run the effect, and record the output back into LPX. But I'm wondering if I can do it more seamless than that without all of the exporting/importing. Sort of using the iPad's sound apps as a near realtime effects processor.
It'd like to be able to monitor it too. I think I got close setting up a multi output device in Audio midi setup, and combining that with Soundflower... but I'm stuck.
It may not be possible without 3rd party software like Studiomuxm MusicIO, or a hardware device like iConnect. But I bet there's a combination that will work using just Audio Midi Setup and/or Soundflower.
I believe you could could just set up a Studiomux fx vst instance in Logic, receiving audio from your logic track, with an fx app loadedinto Smux, you'll notice option to resample audio, or not. then just add subsequent studiomux instances as you like with more fx. I usually use the instrument track on Hosting Au, with iPad set as Audio input, and followed by studiomux instrument and fx instances.Lastly, for above need to Enable the iPad in AMS for the audio over USB.
On the paid front. LoopBack audio is the most versatile tool I've found in these scenarios (defacto Soundflower now)as its audio devices all appear as default audio devices in AMS, and with their Soundsource app, you can play-through any audio. LoopBack supports nested virtual devices as well now within virtual devices, and you can rechannelize audio by source to destination. There's free demo, but yeah paid.
Have you really tried to bring audio in to Ipad with Music IO?
It's clear Music Io can send audio to the computer but I never managed to send audio from LPX to Ipad with Music IO and apply an effect.
I think I've almost got it figured out, but not working quite yet.
Now, I'm trying with Modstep on the iPad, and Studiomux server installed on my Mac desktop. I've got my iPad enabled for input via Audio Midi Setup. In Logic Pro, I see the AU and IAA effects I have loaded in Modstep if I select AudioFX/studiomux effects for the track. But, that's as far as I can get. I can't effect the imported audio, or audio recorded into Logic with the effects I have loaded into Modstep.
Seems like I'm almost there but not quite. I've tried just about every combination of settings I can think of with no luck. I'm betting this is possible using Studiomux server on the desktop, with Logic Pro X and Modstep as the effects host on the iPad, but I'm missing some key setting I think. Any ideas?
Hmmm... can you see the actual studiomux plugin window? I don't have Logic, but with Live I have to click on the GUI for Studiomux, which appears mostly black, when I do, then the window shows where you can select the i-device, and app/fx, source. Good luck!
Yes, I see the studiomux plugin window and it lists effect I have loaded. I launch studiomux server, and I enable my ipad connected via lightning cable using IOXAudio or using Audio Midi Setup. I've got an aggregate set up that includes my display audio and my studiomux iPad. I use the aggregate as both input and output in Logic Pro X.
I create an audio track and import in some audio. I select audio fx, and navigate to the Audio Effects>Audio Units>zerodebug>studiomux effects>stereo
I then get the studiomux GUI with my effects listed, but I can't get them to effect the audio track. Might have something to do with my OS settings for Audio. Not sure if I should have the aggregate selected for input/output or not.
Pretty sure I've got close a couple times, and have to restart Modstep in order for it to show input/output for the same channel in Logic, but I'm stuck at this point.
Thanks anyway though. I think I'm going to throw in the towel for now.
Hmm, well al, I can throw in, is use the aggregate for input, and a multi output device, for outputs. I definitely fought for a good while with it all too
Thanks. I tried that... and I get close, but it creates some kind of weird feedback loop that ends up shutting down audio.
Wish I knew for sure if it's even possible with Modstep, Studiomux server, and Logic. I do hear some audio sort of effected by the AU or IAA in Modstep, but it gets distorted or clipped out quickly. There's some conflict in the signal that I haven't figured out.
So, for this test.. I'm using my Display Audio. My iPad is called "iPad". Should I have both Display Audio and iPad selected for my Multi out? AND, have Display Audio and iPad selected for my Aggregate?
1 set up aggregate device, make note of all relevant channels
2 start studiomux on ipad
3 put AUM port 1 in studiomux slot 1
4 put studiomux input 1 in input slot of AUM channel 1
5 add desired fx in fx slot
6 set AUM ch 1 output to studiomux ch 1
7 setup aux send/track io in daw to send on studiomux output ch 1 (on aggregate device) and return on studiomux input ch 1
im sure this can be done without AUM by just putting the effect in studimux app channel 1 but never tried
Thanks, but I'm not using Studiomux. I'm using Studiomux server on the desktop. Modstep makes Studiomux. Modstep is supposed to interface with Logic Pro X. So, it should be possible to do this with Modstep and Studiomux server only. Except, I can't seem to get it set up right. I'm fairly sure it has something to do with my Aggregate settings, my system audio settings, and my input/output Logic Pro settings. Something I'm doing has a conflict with something else, and creating a feedback loop, etc.
you can do the above with modstep in place of studiomux app
Well, that'd be nice if it actually worked. But, I've tried a couple dozen configurations... different aggregate, using multi output device, etc. But nothing works that I've tried. I'm thinking maybe it doesn't work. But thanks anyway.
I'm going to contact the Modstep/Studiomux devs to see why this isn't working. I believe it should work, but for some reason it isn't.
Is is correct to have my Display Audio and iPad selected as the only two items in my Aggregate device? I've tried all sorts of configurations and instead using a Multi Output device with the iPad and Display audio selected as my output in LPX.
Maybe I'm not doing something right with regard to the "7 setup aux send/track io in daw to send on studiomux output ch 1 (on aggregate device) and return on studiomux input ch 1" part?
i got this working with modstep, but it was super flakey, even by studiomux standards. audio cuts in and out. for awhile i could not tell it was working.
works just fine with the studiomux app or even better with AUM.
your aggregate device should include the studiomux interface and whatever interfaces you were using before. sounds like you have it right.
to create an external aux send in logic, create a send, and use the IO plugin (audio FX/utilities/IO) to route the audio out to a studiomux output port and back via an input.
note that input ch 1 & 2 on the studiomux interface is a mix, so ch 1/2 on ios ends up being ch 3/4 in logic (thanks guys). IO labelling (mix menu) will save you tons of frustration in the long run...
huh, i just noticed that my studiomux interface now only has 2 outputs, not 16, must be a new bug in 3.10b, along with the bug where ios apps still sound on ios when routed to studiomux out.
one of my great hopes for the future is that apple bakes the studiomux functionality directly into OSX/ios...
I tried again, following all of your instructions to a T. Thanks... but it's not working for me. Sometimes I get some evolving drone sound that eventually crashes my audio, like it's a feedback loop it doesn't like.
I might post some screen shots to see in anyone can see something obvious I'm doing wrong, or if this just plain doesn't work very well at all.
When you're using Modstep and AUM.. are you ALSO using the Studiomux app? I don't have the Studiomux app. I'm ONLY using Modstep and the desktop install of Studiomux server. I'm using an Aggregate as my LPX input and a Multi-Output Device as my output in LPX.
I've tried adding the Studipmux Effects directly to my audio track via Audio Effects, and I've tried doing it via a send. It doesn't work in any way that I've tried. The Studiomux Server GUI shows that I'm sending to the iPad and shows the effect I have loaded into Modstep or AUM, but it shows Receiving from iPad (ApeFilter), but shows Sending to iPad with empty or 1-8 possible for the filter and showing ApeFilter as "occupied".
I get no sound unless I uncheck "replace input samples", but then I only get the source sound with no effect.
i dig you do not have the studiomux app. when using modstep, i was not also using the studiomux app. modstep works pretty much the same, put an fx in slot i and it gets connected to input and output i.
you do not want to use the plugins if you are routing audio using the aggregate device.
you should be using the same aggregate device for input and output in logic, you do not want a multi out device.
are you sure you know how to create an external fx send in logic? you can attack that issue separately
I was using Aggregate for input/output but someone here suggested using multi output device for output instead. I've been trying both ways with no luck.
I'm pretty sure I've got a handle on external fx sends, but I won't be offended if you want to gimme the walk through for dummies
if you don't mind. It's entirely possible I'm not doing it right.
well a simpler test case would be to put the utilities/IO plugin on a track, open the plugin settings panel and set the inputs and outputs to the appropriate studiomux ports in the aggregate device, then put some fx in the corresponding slot of modstep.
if you still are having trouble, a screenshot of audio midi setup and the logic tracks would help
turn off the ipad audio in audio midi setup
delete the aux 1 track and stop using the plugins
make sure you have the channels right in the IO plugin settings, it looks like you want output 1/2 and input 3/4
you have an FX in slot 1 of modstep yeah?
pretty sure using studiomux as a clock source is not going to work well, you might need to add built in output to the aggregate and use it as a clock in order to fight drift
I created the aux because you suggested it didn't you?
I don't select Studiomux Effects for my effects on the LPX audio track?
Yes, I have apeFilter in slot 1 of modstep.
Why wouldn't the Aggregate have the iPad instance that's created by Studiomux added to it? So, just my audio speaker output sources in the Aggregate? What's the point of an Aggregate if all it has in it is speaker output?
Turned off iPad from Aggregate. Added Built-in Output and set Clock Source to Built-in Output
Removed the aux 1 track, and stoped using the Studiomux plugin. Now that I've made the changes, I no longer have 3/4 as an option for input. Only for output.
Relaunched Modstep fresh with apeFilter in slot 1
I'm playing my audio track and it's not being effected by the apeFilter plugin in Modstep. Did I miss something?
At first I had 3/4 available as output and then it went away leaving only 1/2. It also crashed my modstep. This is horribly flakey and unpredictable. I think there's either something wrong with LPX, Studiomux server, or LPX. Or maybe the AMS is the flakey part? At one point it was picking up my onboard mic and creating ear-splitting feedback, even though I don't have it selected as an input.
I can't imagine any more combinations that I haven't tried over the last 2 days. I'm thinking this isn't going to work. Maybe your's works because you have the Studiomux app installed, even though you're not using it? The reviews and articles I've read on Modstep all say this should work. But, I don't know what else to try that I haven't already tried.
No one from Modstep replied to my tech support query.
you have 3 interfaces set up all called ipad, that is not helping anything...
by turn off ipad audio i meant the built in audio bridge (the bottom one with the disable button) , not the studiomux interface from the aggregate. you need that one.
the multi out called ipad needs to go too.
1 ipad instance is created by AMS for feeding audio from the lightning cable. If I don't "enable" it, it doesn't interface with LPX. The 3rd one is created by activating Studiomux Server. I can't rename them separately. They all take their name from the name of my iPad.
Would love to get this to work at least once. Then, see if I can use it somewhat reliably. If not, maybe I'll look into an affordable basic hardware interface instead. I'd just get the Studiomux app, but if Modstep is basically using the same functional code and it proves to be this flakey for real, I'd prefer not to waste the money on Studiomux.
Thanks for looking at it though. Much appreciated.
iPad disabled as suggested. iPad from Studiomux added back into AMS along with Built-in Output with clock from Built-in Output.
Aggregate for both input/output in LPX.
I/O plugin added to audio track with input 3/4 and output 1/2 as suggested. No other filters added as directed.
Changed my filter in Modstep slot 1 to AUFX:Space instead.
Still, no effects are applied to my audio track. Honestly, I already tried this same configuration without luck a couple days ago. All of the other stuff is trying different settings based on the suggestions in this thread, YouTube videos, and review posts about Modstep.
Is there any reason you can see why this works for you, but obviously doesn't work for me?