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Any DAW app that allows adjustment of swing %?
On my desktop DAW I would just go into the event list and adjust what tick my 16th note hi hat would hit on. So with 960 PPQN, instead of 1 240 480 720, I'd have them hit on, say, 1 273 480 753. Or for a light 8th note swing, I'd have the offbeat on tick 515 instead of 480. Is there any way in Auria Pro, Cubasis, or Gadget to accomplish something similar, either through an event list editor or a simple swing percentage adjustment setting somewhere? Thanks for any help on this!
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In Auria, MIDI channel strip, Quantize -> Groove -> choose between various modalities of shuffles and triplets -> select the strenght. Not the control you'd have with your Desktop DAW, but pretty close. Auria, btw, also have 960 PPQN.
Cubasis also does it nicely...
It's super easy in SunVox. See here: https://sunvox-guide.readthedocs.io/en/latest/cookbook/adding-swing.html
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I believe Cubasis peaks out at 48 PPQN.
I didn't want to confuse the poor guy.
Thanks for the replies, everyone! I'll have a play around in Auria Pro and see what I can come up with. I'm a bit turned off by the quite low, IMO, ppqn in Cubasis. Hopefully that's something they can increase in the future, at least to 240 or 480. Seems like kind of a necessary thing for a DAW that otherwise seems to be quite proficient in the MIDI department.
Yes, I absolutely love the new improved midi in Cubasis also. So much better with the last update.
Yes 48 PPQN is way too low. Let us know how it goes with AP.
Well I did some experimenting with a 16th note hi hat part in Auria Pro and... It was an absolute disaster. I manually played the part in at a slow tempo, so they weren't perfect 16th notes but definitely close enough for quantization to "grab". I highlighted the notes, selected Process->Quantize, selected 16th notes, and the result was a random mess, both in timing and velocity. Even when I selected a single note, that was only a few ticks away from the beat, Quantize would not move it to the beat. Strength dial is all the way up, Window dial is all the way up, Swing dial is all the way down. Any Groove Quantization I tried to apply gave me the same random result. I'd like to think I'm doing something fundamentally wrong, but I spent quite a while on this and I'm pretty sure I'm doing what I'm supposed to. So... any Auria Pro users have any idea what's going on here?
Some explanations in the AP forum on swing usage. http://333.auriaapp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=13969
I've never done it like that. I've always just put the notes in snapped to the 16th note grid, then gone to the midi FX settings and adjusted the groove quantize there. Works fabulously.
I think you're expecting a "destructive" quantization where the notes are actually moved on the piano roll. This is a non-destructive move. The notes stay where they are and all the swing, randomization, etc. remain adjustable and are processed realtime.
As for your trouble with quantizing on-grid, I'm not sure what would be the trouble there. What I usually do is select a bunch of notes and then move them - they snap to the right places. I'll admit I don't mess with it that much though. I'm less of a live player than a note enterer.
Thanks @philowerx and @wim. I may have to resurrect that thread over on the Auria board; it's just that this board seems to have so much more traffic. Full disclosure - I have not yet tried the non-destructive, real time quantization method. Right now I'm still trying to use the method that is comfortable to me from my other DAW experiences, i.e. selecting the recorded notes and destructively quantizing them so that the piano roll view reflects their new positioning. And that is where something is going horrifically wrong. Auria Pro still seems to be completely randomizing note placement, velocity, and length. This is with a 16th note pattern, grid set to 16th notes, quantization set to 16th notes, strength and window dials all the way up, swing dial all the way down. My (tedious) workaround was to drag all notes to the 16th note grid markers, and then manually adjust all velocities and note placement, note by note, until I had a pattern that I felt I could copy and paste. Ended up sounding like I wanted, but if destructive quantization was working correctly (or I wasn't making a colossal mistake), I shouldn't have to manually position every note. Velocities I would still end up adjusting, as I know quantization (even groove quantization) wouldn't give me exactly the nuances I'd be looking for. Just bizarre, and a little frustrating, that such a common and useful MIDI feature is going haywire for me.
Thanks @philowerx and @wim. I may have to resurrect that thread over on the Auria board; it's just that this board seems to have so much more traffic. Full disclosure - I have not yet tried the non-destructive, real time quantization method. Right now I'm still trying to use the method that is comfortable to me from my other DAW experiences, i.e. selecting the recorded notes and destructively quantizing them so that the piano roll view reflects their new positioning. And that is where something is going horrifically wrong. Auria Pro still seems to be completely randomizing note placement, velocity, and length. This is with a 16th note pattern, grid set to 16th notes, quantization set to 16th notes, strength and window dials all the way up, swing dial all the way down. My (tedious) workaround was to drag all notes to the 16th note grid markers, and then manually adjust all velocities and note placement, note by note, until I had a pattern that I felt I could copy and paste. Ended up sounding like I wanted, but if destructive quantization was working correctly (or I wasn't making a colossal mistake), I shouldn't have to manually position every note. Velocities I would still end up adjusting, as I know quantization (even groove quantization) wouldn't give me exactly the nuances I'd be looking for. Just bizarre, and a little frustrating, that such a common and useful MIDI feature is going haywire for me.