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AUM smartmixing
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Well yesterday moved by the inminent price change in my country (Spain) I purchased some new apps/plugs and I want to ask experimented AUM/Au users how to make something.
First of all the goal: Frecuency compression realtime mixing (aka smartmixing). The process consist in something like Mastering frecuency compression but sidechainning two inputs where (as example) the low frecuency of one input affects the low of the other with compression. Crazy?
Jump to around 1:30'
So I bought AUFX suite for AU:push (sidechain) and also PressIt (lovely frecuency compression) but I'm not sure how to approach it... since I don't figure how to set AU:Push to set its gate from other AUM channel.
I have some ideas but messing with it, AUM crashed... so I preferred ask here before I get my ears hurt or need to hard reset the device due my disorder mistakes...
Anyone doing madness like this out there?
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Try putting push key input on a bus and send whatever to that channel
The idea is control the sidechain with external signal and affect the file player channel not the inverse... but AU:Push key is the right to sidechain signals so?
Yes the key input is the "control" input so too say then you run the signal to affect reough push as normal
Push key in the source and regular Push in the destination? It could be possible load 2 instances with its own keys?
Thanks a lot @Hansson for your help
No not two instances, but you can put the keyk input on a bus and send two channels to that bus
But I still don't understand (sorry ;( ) how to compress the signal of Channel 2 (with iAA input or File player) with the sidechain from Channel 1 like the video I posted.
I don't want to send two channels into one bus, I want to control one channel compression with the other channel signal (frecuency filtered to affect each band with almost 3 range: low, mid, high like PressIt)
Maybe it's not possible?
Meanwhile I found a workaround for splitting frecuencies and midi control two (or more) channels with PressIt AU midi control from AUM...
It's promissing!
It seems work for splitting even with more than one AU instance for channel (yeah) so if I can set properly the sidechainning (almost for low frecuencies) I will get what I need (but I will need to midify al these parameters of course)
I think you might be over complicating things. If I understand what you're trying to do correctly, the setup below should work.
Thanks @wim I will try the setup you point and check if I can repeat it for each frecuency range
I'm not quite sure I understand what you want to do with multiple frequency ranges. If you want a composite set of frequencies all to act together into a single compressor key input, then you can substitute an EQ with bands, like SilQ before the key input, If you want multiple compressors, each keyed to a different frequency, then you need an AU compressor that has side chain input. I don't know if there are any off the top of my head.
The second option like the video I've posted and I expected that AU:Push could do that but I'm still not sure neither. The straight-forward solution (until I realize if it's possible with bus mixing and AU:Push) is to use PressIt and map the same control with inverted midi value in one of the channels (to simulate A<=>B mixing). If I get working "control signal B with sidechain from signal A" then I will try "to pump bass line" house trick as first step...
Thanks once again
Woa. That frequency cross-fader in the video looks amazing. I know @j_liljedahl has at least considered working on a crossfader for AUM at some point but perhaps it should be a stand alone AU. If the user sets it to 'one band', it works just like a traditional crossfader. But set it to 3 or 5 or 10 bands and... wow.
Yup it's the proposition from Pioneer to stem mixing (later they gave support to their cdjs to stems mp4) but the possibilities are incredible for live remixing...
Another option is make our own raspi pd standalone module but I'm not sure if maybe it's too much for the actual raspi hardware and AUM is so exciting with all the AU and busses...
Possibly newb suggestion, but can apeFilter do this?
The filtering part maybe but it can output separated range outputs by itself so we will need bus routing as any other filter solution. PressIt seems more complete with the compression addition (even without sidechain)
Currently, only IAA supports side-chaining (like AUFX:Push) because there's only one instance of the IAA node. I'm planning to support this in AUM also for AU plugins, but I will first need an actual AU that makes use of it
AUFX:Push will turn into an AU when I find the time for it, and make the needed changes in AUM at the same time.
A multi-band crossfader would be great as an AU, but needs the same technology as mentioned above (two separate inputs).
Glad to know you share the possibility and excite about the chance to buy the right app/plug in some future.. Meanwhile I will do my workarounds and wait patiently...
Thanks @j_liljedahl!
Perhaps when AUFX:Push becomes an AU you would be able to setup multiple instances in order to have multiple key inputs
It will be great
The anticipation of @j_liljedahl putting the AU in AUFX grows!
Sure! AUFX:Push already has a lo/hi-cut filter pair on the key input, so you'd just need to tune them to separate bands.
ATM 1 channel send into 3 busses could do the trick for one deck.
I will midimap altogether to control the 3 AU:PressIt frecuency xovers with the same 3 knobs (to modify them as one).
Then I will double the set for second deck and from there try to add sidechain with AU:Push almost for low range :}
@j_liljedahl it could be possible add to midi mapping "invert" for lineal potentiometers? It will be useful for emulate a xfader mapping the same CC to two paramaters with one of them inverted...
It could be possible achieve it with midiflow I suppose. What IAP I will need? I have "remapping" but not "conditions"...
I will back with more snapshots
I have this in "todo list" but meanwhile...
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/18979/configuring-a-crossover-in-aum#latest
This is possible since the 1.2 update. Just edit the range of a midi parameter and swap the min/max points to have it inverted.
Cool! Thanks for pointing me in the right direction @j_liljedahl!
This is basically the same as using a de esser - but instead using 3 bands - or a multiband compressor.
One day soon someone will make a good one.....
but ATM serious high quality IOS multiband compression is not happening at all.
Its best done on killer software like DMG Limitless < this is what many of the top mastering Pro's use. (and it has anywhere up to 6 bands of compression with release and attack times + Q adjustment for every band!! ) + (as well as being the cream of the top grade software mastering compressor/limiters)
Once used, one realizes that pretty much everything else is nothing special.
There are many horrible artifacts like phase smearing and EQ compromises like brittle/ dullness that become an impediment unless the multiband compressor is of the utmost high quality - and even then still a majority have sonic artifacts that are noticeable (when you want them to be transparent / or maybe a little colorful ) - this includes hardware too!
So on IOS - at this stage, nothing is anywhere near the serious complex compression software available as VST's etc.
DMG Limitless (VST) is astonishing weapon for loudness and multiband compression and limiting - and not very expensive (... um - no its not a $5 app)
I use it on every album / mix / & master that leaves my front door.
IOS is for making stuff - not serious high quality multiband compression (yet..)
How stuff sonically stands out in the world is of utmost importance!
Well since I don't have (and don't want) a desktop machine until these vst become an AUv3 I should continue working with what I have. Obviously if I could expend a grand over stuff it will be the djm2000 since I mess with multiband to emulate it not pursuing quality sonic improvements like mastering tools. If I can split and sidechain without lossing so much it's ok
Thanks for pointing towards the vst... Do you know if there are any plans to port it to iOS?
Who knows - someone will put something amazing on IOS one day...
One can get away with pretty ok IOS compression on singular tracks and some busing now - but when dealing with a stereo mix for release , how great the compression is crucial to enhance the track as apposed to average compression that generally degrade the mix.
Another seriously amazing bit of VST compression software is Klanghelm MJUC - about $30. (it will beat the pants off any app )
Sometimes I will move over the bass and kick and snare to DAW - when I have an idea happening - do some killer EQ and compression / limiting and send it back to IOS.
Its a sonic weapon.
I get generally everything sounding amazing as i can on IOS - then export the files and then mix from DAW
Limitless also allows me to do seriously punchy sounding, vibey mix compression too...
At this point in history, there is insanely better EQ's and compression / FX / Reverbs on computer
And on the flip side I would say that there is a incredible amount of synth / generative / creative type IOS stuff that leaves DAW's wanting!
IOS is fluid.
Yeah I have clear where am I... I just make my demos and so but if I need true studio quality then I will go to a friend's studio with all the bells and whistles (TAC scorpion mixer, TLA, Urei etc)
I don't want to mess again with the desktop paradigm or almost not as we know it until now. I suppose the next step for me is dedicated hardware solutions (as standalones I want to say) that someday emerge for embbed platforms (from raspi to dedicated dsp platforms that seems are gain popularity)