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Do you ever feel......
...like you're trapped on an island? ....in isolation? I miss the camaraderie of being in a real band. I know that I don't have the time to be in a real band anymore, and I couldn't realistically do it even if I wanted to, but I miss that aspect. I miss getting to know real people. I know all of you are more than just text and words, but sometimes even the forums aren't enough.... It feels so two-dimensional. Few people that I know in person have any passion for music. I miss bouncing ideas off of another person. I miss those ephemeral moments when sonic magic happens. I miss shared passion......
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Agree totally. I feel bored with myself. I hate just having me and myself. I really miss hearing that out of nowhere riff made by another that gives you instant inspiration. My life just is not conducive to being with people anymore....damn shame
I'm with you. Doing some contract work outta state and had to leave my jam buddies behind.
I don´t know anyone of my family or friends (not that i have many of them) interested in music creation or sound design. They all see it more like they get water out of the shower. It´s there, don´t care how it was made and so....
But i see it positive, it´s MY thing and i can calm down with it and escape for some time the f......real life
How knows, maybe we are not real and just text and words or 0 and 1´s......
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20160901-we-might-live-in-a-computer-program-but-it-may-not-matter
Ironically I got into electronic music because I got tired of being dependent on a band for making music (I used to be a drummer) and synths/drumcomputers allowed me to make music on my own
^ pretty much this.
I'm in the cusp of leaving the band I'm in, as they're demanding too much of my time (and getting grumpy when I can't give it). I absolutely LOVE the independence of doing my own thing, and the convenience of the iPad for allowing me to do it whenever I want.
As for talking about it, I'm scratching most of those itches here.
@Audiojunkie Have you already explored all those collaboration platforms you posted in the other thread? It seems like one of those might be a good solution for you.
Agree on all fronts here, I too got into using computers for music to allow me to do stuff on my own without having to rely on others......but I have been doing it so long now I really miss having others to bounce off.....that feeling of knowing something is good as everyone is smiling
I usually just consult with the three other guys in my head.
Just kidding, lol, but I get what you mean. However, I've always tended to be a loner, because with the exception of you excellent lot and a couple of good people from outside this forum, I've found a majority of musicians online and in person to be caustic elitists who have no problem treating you like shit if you ask a question they think is dumb, like pop/edm, sneeze the wrong way, or because they are just that "pleasant" by nature.
Anyhoo, there are solutions like Google Hangout, Skype, or wait...a majority of us use iOS I assume, so maybe Facetime.
It'd be cool to do such a thing if I need a vocalist from here or a collab or something cool like that. Cheers.
I can't get them to agree on anything
And the other three are psychotic assholes. (Don't tell them I said that.)
Every now and then I think about finding people to play with. Then I remember the time it takes, the commitment. And all the drama. And I go back to my iPad.
I wouldn't mind finding some local jams, but it's been so long.
I feel you. I'm also in a similar boat as @AndyPlankton . i use to be in a band in the late 90s. I was fascinated with electronic music, when everybody else i knew dismissed it. Ultimately i got what i wanted. But i began missing the comradery the past couple years. But i couldn't be reliable in a band right now. At least what we do is conducive to sporadic and intermittent practicing. (Unless one has a complicated AB3/AUM setup, lol)
I play solo professionally and really feel the loneliness of it. Am admittedly not the most talented musician out there but the sad thing is - other skilled musician friends that I know of are all doing music just to pass time. Hence we can never get on the same level of commitment.
I really enjoy playing with others but can't get anything going past a session or two. Tried putting myself out there but only ended up playing with a lot of amateurs. It doesn't help that sessionists only play for paid projects and don't play together for fun or to improve!
I'm quite happy being on my own with my music now. I do miss that head and body absorption sort of feeling in a rehearsal room when the guitars keyboards and drums are going at full tilt. I was never that good at playing in different keys though- so unless I was taking the lead- I would struggle to join in at times
Lotta things I miss about being young. Bands is definitely up there.
But I'm a family guy now, and there's plenty great about that. Gotta grab the rare music-making opportunities where they come, and I just cain't imagine how I'd get any without today's technology. What a time to be alive.
My youngest is due to leave the nest in about six years (not that I'm keeping track). When that happens, no doubt I'll get nostalgic for all the years where I barely had time to sit down.
But I'll be ready to jam, and jam I shall. All in time.
Would it help you to know I'm smiling
I've never had the experience of playing with other people and have primarily focused on creating music as a process I enjoy doing without much reflection on how it might appeal to other people. At some point I would be interested in collaborating with other people as I think it could be much more interesting than something I'd just come up with on my own given my limited knowledge, abilities, and imagination.
Pretty much exactly.
I have to say that personally I'm feeling blessed. I have two projects running in parallel. One reggae/dub/whatever with a bunch of likeminded guys. We're getting traction on a local community circuit and this is my social life. The other one, Fleksi is just me and a drummer that plays along what I ask him. They're both creative projects so all original stuff etc but one is quite the opposite of the other. Whatever songs I write go either to one or the other or in the bin.
I don't know if this is going to change with time/age but I feel that at 45 with two small kids and a major house renovation I'm not doing too badly. I have no social life other than family and music but who gives....
My favourite posts in this excellent thread are @supadom 's and @RulesOfBlazon ...
Either getting out there and doing it. Or not doing it, but feeling blessed anyway (and planning on doing it when time allows). Very inspirational and positive.
I only came to making music a few years ago through the power of iOS. I've never experienced playing with others at all.
I like to think one day I will. I did a remote collaboration or two and that was fun. The idea of 'playing live' at all (solo or with other people) is quite a crazy one in my head. Must be totally thrilling.
I've DJed a bit to some reasonably 'up for it' dancefloors - at parties and events - and I must say the buzz you get from that if it goes down well (especially after a few beers) is pretty special.
As I write this - I'm thinking that I really ought to do something like that again - it's been about 5 years or something now! (People I know don't seem to have events or parties like that once they get past 40!)
@brambos : Yeah I'm a drummer too.Screw bands and guitarists telling you what to do.
Yep, miss the craic. Take a kinda grandparent approach to it all now. I find out where the young, local bands are rehearsing, knock, and ask if they know any punk classics. The 'how old are you grandad' looks gets me on the throne for 15 mins of brutal crash riding 'Bodies.' Blurs those 'miss' needs. And the best part, like being a grandparent, you can hand the sticks back, (the ones without rubber feet), then hobble onto the next band, while the parents haul all the heavy gear back to the van..... then to storage..... then home.....then......
I'm very much happy in my own world and find communities such as this scratch my social itch.
Always have been this way, I find social interaction depletes my energy, I'm a typical introvert with the occasional flashes of extroverted behaviour when the mood takes (have been voluntarily on stage in front of thousands a couple of times and made it to TV once ... RockWiz shows, musical trivia is my thang).
Agree.
For me the music made it all make sense.
Instead I find myself just going through the motions. The only relief comes with the ios music for some fleeting moments anyway.
Nevermind, most of my best friends from then are dead, in prison, or mia.
SOLITUDE IS A HARD WON ALLY.
Sounds like we share(d) many of the same friends. For a long time I (thought I) subscribed to Pessoa's notion: Solitude devastates me, company oppresses me. But decided it was largely its tidy that elegance that had sucked me in. These days I tend to agree more with Mister Dostoevsky that Living in solitude and embittering your soul with recollections, you can make your life very gloomy. There is a single refuge, a single medicine: art and creative work. (Letter to Yekaterina Yunge, 11 April 1880). Keeps the different wolves from the door.
Collaboration may be THE ONLY WAY for me to get some of that feeling that I had when I was in a band. My life situation won't allow for anything else. I personally don't have much time to even collaborate, but I DO miss the camaraderie. I figure that if I were doing even an hour or two a week I'd feel like I was making progress. That's why I've been researching the collaboration platforms. Sadly, I would prefer a realtime format, but it doesn't exist. There are some low latency ones, but the good ones are really expensive. The non-realtime or even semi-realtime platforms may be the only other choice. I mean, when it comes down to it, even skype, dropbox and stems will work. But then I need to find someone that wants to collaborate, that does music that I'm interested in (and vice versa), that I get along with, that can tolerate my mood swings, etc., etc., etc. Mostly someone who can tolerate me.
Yes, well said!
I've never been one to use recreational drugs, but of the emotional highs that I have experienced, there have been few that have matched the feeling I've gotten from of a club full of people totally grooving off the performances of the songs I've written! There's a connection point between the band and the audience that doesn't always happen -- in fact often doesn't -- but when it does, it's magic!! Everyone feels it!!.....at least until the cops come... hehehe!!!
Yeah!!! Hahaha!! Awesome!! Total thumbs up on that!!