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Extremely High BPM apps like TF8, MidiSequencer, Steps, Modstep
Have been experimenting a little with very high bpm rates. I read somewhere that you can't distinguish the difference between beats beyond about 1500 BPM. Don't know if that's true.
The bpm in the new TF8 synth can be set extremely high. And starts from 0. You have to click to advance, or double tap quickly... but you can't enter or slide the rate up manually. I've taken it as high as 3000+ but I can't really hear much difference at that high a rate. I DO hear it up to around 800 or so, and depending on the sound and pattern, I can hear differences up to around 1200 bpm.
Most apps only go up to around 240-300, and 20-60 on the low end.
MidiSequencer claims a max bpm of 1040. The new Steps app and Modstep will do 999 bpm.
I know most of you likely have no interest in these rates, but some interesting things start happening at the very high rates, depending on the sound, freq and filters added.
What other apps are capable of a very high rate of bpm? I wonder what the max an iOS device is even capable of delivering?
The TF8 dev said he didn't think there'd be much difference after around 240, but I can clearly hear differences up to around 1000 and beyond, depending on the source.
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Sounds interesting. Might give it a try. Got any interesting audio clips to share?
Not yet... not sure what I'm going to do with it, but you start to get some intriguing weirdness up in the higher rates, especially once you start throwing filters at it.
Here's a clip on YT that goes from 90 bpm up to 100,000 bpm
Not very high, but I like the way Xynthesizr is cranked up to 300 bpm and only 2 steps are looped in the last minute of this one:
Different Drummer officially tops out at, I believe 900 bpm, but I've had it up to 2000. I can't recall what I used here though...
Ive been experimenting with this too - but only on Reaper so far.
Ive been wondering if there any IOS apps where the bpm can be automated and spit out the automated BPM to other apps?
Good question. I'd like to know this too, I checked a few but haven't found one that lets you automate bpm yet.
@Mayo and @skiphunt , Caustic 3 you can very easily automate the BPM. I would have to play around with it to see how high it goes. Same thing regarding midi out. I need to check. Definitely no link tho.
Glitch breaks
Goes very very very high
Doubleplus.
It certainly does.
Any decent DAW will do this (e.g. Auria Pro), but they tend to have more conservative BPM limits (Auria tops out at 320).
Not smooth automation, but ModStep can set BPMs per scene.
If we're talking about really high BPMs then setting up a series of one-bar scenes with 1 "# of Loops" and incremental BPM changes could approximate a curve.
One thing to keep in mind here is that most real-time time-stretch engines do not support extreme BPMs.
One quite useable work-around is to sequence everything using 1/64th notes instead of 1/16 or so.
I mean at those extreme BPMs it's more like 'granular synthesis' rather than beats
@Blipsford_Baubie - please let us now about your Caustic experiments.
Its not in my arsenal, but if it does automate BPM and go up to a 1000 or more then its a instabuy for me
I have Caustic. Only goes up to 250 bpm and I don't see how the tempo rate can be automated. I don't think it supports midi out either.
Happy to be proven wrong though.
Yes it does almost get to granular synthesis territory
I'm still trying to find any software at all that can do to up to 10,000 BPM.
Ive been getting around this on Reaper by slowing stuff down to 5-10 BPM, and then increasing upwards to 960. (Reaper will only do 960)
But then I can't spit out BPM via midi ;(
I need to recheck Glitchbreaks though -
I had the new synth TF8's arp allegedly doing 3001. It will go higher, but you have to click one-by-one to advance. I got tired of advancing after 3000
Looks like it spits it midi out too, but the bpm will be adjusted according to the max the app you're sending it to will support.
3000 for TF8 is very cool indeed!
And it outputs MIDI!
I'm really looking to trigger samples - so not a huge bummer if another app does not receive high BPM's.
The hunt goes on for at least 3000 BPM + automation....
ATM I'll stick with reaper for automation I suppose