Is there Any App that can Emulate this Ondes/Mellotron Cassette Synth?

kobamoto

philowerx

http://www.olympianoiseco.com/blog/ondes-is-now-ribbons/

kobamoto

@philowerx said:
http://www.olympianoiseco.com/blog/ondes-is-now-ribbons/

I've got ondes, but that's quite different

kobamoto

maybe samplr is the only thing?

philowerx

Samplr is hard to beat.

kobamoto

yes it is...

philowerx

Can't help but wonder what would've happened if instead of Alchemy being dumbed down and walled off in GB, the Alchemy team and Marcos Alonzo were allowed free rein to create an open ended beast, but rose and bling seized the day. Perhaps tomorrow will bring joy to more creative souls.

JRSIV

That is so cool. The website doesn't offer much information, looks like a Kickstarter that is just now in the production/distribution stage.

It appears to use voltage regulation to drive the capstan at different speeds. Since tuning notes & scales is completely manual I can see endless timbres & weird noises coming out of ths badboy.

I'd really like the cassette tape delay unit they make​ out of old marantz tabletop units, there's pictures on the sites​ menu but no price, etc...

kobamoto

exactly !!!, to quote their marketing the sounds are endless that you could get out of this. I have oodles and oodles of tapes

kobamoto

but I wonder if Igor vasilev could come up with something even cooler with field scaper or even something new

kobamoto

@philowerx said:
Can't help but wonder what would've happened if instead of Alchemy being dumbed down and walled off in GB, the Alchemy team and Marcos Alonzo were allowed free rein to create an open ended beast, but rose and bling seized the day. Perhaps tomorrow will bring joy to more creative souls.

marcos is a good dude, but even the original samplr almost didn't happen... we're lucky to have what we've got and anything else that we get. I really feel like both him and the patterning dev don't know how Mozart they are.

Carnbot

That's pretty cool. How about iDensity and ipulsaret? They're very capable apps.

Samu

If I've understood it correctly the 'tape-synth' continuously plays the tape and adjusts the 'motor-speed' for different pitches. The 'envelope' is actually just a 'gate' and the tape is not actually re-started on each new note?!

kobamoto

@cambot, oh yeah forgot, will have to check idensitys sims

@samu, yep that's my take on it

Telefunky

for anyone into that kind of sounds: pickup a Casio SK-1 sampling toy keyboard, 20 bucks if you're lucky (they are highly regarded by some folks).
A whooping 1-2 seconds of sampling time, same crude pitch generation, portamento (!), additive synthesis as primitive as it gets, some envelopes and those crappy drum sounds.
Integrates fairly easy into the IOS enviroment.
The user interface is second to none for a non-display device, you'll learn in an afternoon.

Samu

@kobamoto said:
@cambot, oh yeah forgot, will have to check idensitys sims

@samu, yep that's my take on it

So what we need in practice here is a sampler that can play a looooong sample in legato mode to control the pitch of 'tape' and drone it in the back-ground and then use a 'gate/envelope to control the output. (It's really just a matter of automating the output level of the droned note). We'll see where all this goes

Carnbot

@Samu said:

@kobamoto said:
@cambot, oh yeah forgot, will have to check idensitys sims

@samu, yep that's my take on it

So what we need in practice here is a sampler that can play a looooong sample in legato mode to control the pitch of 'tape' and drone it in the back-ground and then use a 'gate/envelope to control the output. (It's really just a matter of automating the output level of the droned note). We'll see where all this goes

You can do this sort of thing with iDensity and iPulsaret. You could import a very long sample from a tape source or even play a tape as an input and then manipulate the live feed like this device.

Telefunky

don't even needs a tape source as those apps can imitate the tape wobbling by random lfo modulations. Noise (additionally) could be filtered the same way.

Carnbot

That's true, just using a single tonal source you could sound tape like with the lfos. But for ultra authenticity would be fun to use real tape like this device.

Telefunky

yes, there's a certain fun point in using a crappy old tape as input.
It's neither a quality nor character device that's featured in the video.
I find it totally cool to turn something like this from the dumpster into a soundsource.
There's creativity in the process of making it work.

asnor

@JRSIV said:

I'd really like the cassette tape delay unit they make​ out of old marantz tabletop units, there's pictures on the sites​ menu but no price, etc...

http://www.ondemagnetique.com/shop/cassette-tape-echo

$450+, but sold out. Maybe if you have a stock unit to send in for modding?

supadom

@Telefunky said:
for anyone into that kind of sounds: pickup a Casio SK-1 sampling toy keyboard, 20 bucks if you're lucky (they are highly regarded by some folks).
A whooping 1-2 seconds of sampling time, same crude pitch generation, portamento (!), additive synthesis as primitive as it gets, some envelopes and those crappy drum sounds.
Integrates fairly easy into the IOS enviroment.
The user interface is second to none for a non-display device, you'll learn in an afternoon.

Got this one sitting in my greenhouse! I know :0

Will

Beyond the tone of the tape, think there are at least two other bits to the charm here. The fixed ramp rate (not time) when going from one pitch to another as the capstan changes speed and that the notes never seem quite perfect.

I wonder if importing a drone sample into Thumbjam and setting the surface to the slide mode wouldn't actually get you pretty close. If you set the X axis or TILT to volume you could sorta play the different attack times. The slide keyboard would help keep the pitches from being too perfect. Or the animoog keyboard as a MIDI out source; its ability to set the keyboard correction amount could help with the same. You'd need to point it at something with portamento though.

kobamoto

@syrupcore said:
Beyond the tone of the tape, think there are at least two other bits to the charm here. The fixed ramp rate (not time) when going from one pitch to another as the capstan changes speed and that the notes never seem quite perfect.

I wonder if importing a drone sample into Thumbjam and setting the surface to the slide mode wouldn't actually get you pretty close. If you set the X axis or TILT to volume you could sorta play the different attack times. The slide keyboard would help keep the pitches from being too perfect. Or the animoog keyboard as a MIDI out source; its ability to set the keyboard correction amount could help with the same. You'd need to point it at something with portamento though.

cool idea to try, thank you. is there ever a solution that thumb jam is not a part of

JRSIV

@asnor said:

@JRSIV said:
I'd really like the cassette tape delay unit they make​ out of old marantz tabletop units, there's pictures on the sites​ menu but no price, etc...

http://www.ondemagnetique.com/shop/cassette-tape-echo

$450+, but sold out. Maybe if you have a stock unit to send in for modding?

I was reading online how those Marantz decks are like a favorite of tabletop cassette deck collectors, maybe he could do one with an old Realistic Radio Shack unit? Lol.

I'm sure whatever the machine you get the concentric loop/answering machine cassettes are pretty​ hard to find nowadays. Very niche piece of kit...

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