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It got a firmware update that pretty much gave it all of pushes scale modes and note overlaps. The only thing it lacks from the push is the drum sequencer. But unlike the push it works perfectly on IOS (as long as you use the supplied power adapter or the USB cck3 with a power adapter/battery bank.) I own a remote zero sl so when I use it in ableton it even gets the auto assigned encoders wit display so I do not need a push at all
I think it has 36 scales built in. Although I pretty much just use major, aeolian and Dorian doe now...
@lukesleepwalker Seems like Bluetooth midi is different than audio so I may give it a try. To bad the bluetooth CME xkeys are $100 more than the wired only.
@gonekrazy3000 that is really appealing now. One of the main things I liked about the Push 2 videos I watched was the grid seemed to be laid out like a guitar. Which as a guitar player, would allow me to more easily translate my guitar riffs into midi notes. I will have to see what my budget will allow. I don't use that many different scales. mainly just the major minor and a few modes. 36 is more than enough to get the job done. Plus there are apps like scalegen and now with AB3 and midi flow apps, so any additional scales I need should be able to be accomplished.
here are some videos:-
general scale mode explanation
performance using the scale mode. while it contains the push layout and a chromatic layout it also has other note overlap modes. in this video the artist is using scaled octave per row. meaning its 7 notes in the scale and the next root note per row. this allows 8 octaves in the current scale. pretty fantastic for riffing across octaves.
you have to also keep in mind that the launchpad pro has hardware midi outs. you can literally connect it directly to hardware synths while keeping all these scale modes. it also has aftertouch. unlike the push it isn't bound to ableton.
@gonekrazy3000 Why did you have to do that to me. Now the Launchpad Pro is on my short list. Its at the bottom because of the price but its on there.
i did it because i care. don't be like me. i purchased so many different tiny keyboards before i got my launchpad. and the launchpad almost completely monopolizes my time now. My k-boards get so jealous
although they're happy when i let them play alongside the launchpad.
(the ipad air 2, the launchpad and the 2 k-boards are all running off the battery bank using the cck3)
btw. the k-boards are also good for ultra portable super rugged travel.
check it out here:-
i use 2 so that i can do splits (i have them each transmitting to a different channel. although by default they transmit to channel 1. they can be reprogrammed using the mac/windows editor.)
they're also stupidly durable:-
and can do pitchbends like the roli seaboard. although their velocity is a bit spotty. i turn it off.
You just need to set Animoog to MPE. I don't have it in front of me right now, but if I recall correctly, you go to Setup, MIDI and in the MIDI channel selection list, scroll to the bottom and it will have MPE at the bottom. Select that.Not sure what you need to do to the CME.
@gonekrazy3000 So besides the 64 pads triggering notes on the iPad, what other functionality do you get with the other buttons and modes?
Great..thanks for the info!
I think the drum layout sends Gm midi. both gadget and modstep accept it as a drum pad. and i'm not 100% sure but i think it sends out polyphonic aftertouch. will have to test with the model15. since apparently aftertouch can send "per channel' which makes me think its mpe. the fader mode lets you send 8 faders but they have preassigned cc. you can still use it with midi learned things. i still prefer to use the launchcontrol xl for faders and knobs though. tweaking the indevice settings it has 3 different velocity curves (lower notes, normal, harder hits) and the ability to switch off velocity altogether. it takes 2-3 clicks to swap all these settings once you get used to it. my fav bit is the fact that it has 16 channels. so lets say i want to work exclusively in gadget. i can map channel 1 to drums, channel 2-16 to seperate instruments. record arm them all. and swap between them in seconds. this also works in modstep or other daws.
also. the user mode works with infinite looper and lights up the pads like ableton. so you can trigger clips this way.
the device also has an opensource firmware system. so if you're a programmer you can add your own functions.
one dude built a step sequencer into the unit itself (its basically midisteps in hardware) :-
I highly recommend atleast watching the last video. it might not be great music. (its actually pretty terrible D=)
but the guy has created a surprisingly versatile sequencer into the controller. i personally do not use this firmware since you lose the scale modes. but you can see that this is more than just a normal pad controller.
Was going to suggest you consider the non-pro Beatstep for knobs and pads and the Keystep for keys+arp+sequencer. Will need a little USB hub but pretty powerful little combo. You can change the MIDI channel on the fly (on both) but you can't edit the knob or pad values on the BS without a computer. With 16 presets on board though, it's easy enough to just set up a bunch you think you might need.
Anyone gotten a launchpad (I use the MK2) to work with a btle midi hub like the Wej, Yamaha dongle, Puc, etc? I'm having a hell of a time getting it to work that way.
@syrupcore I like both of those suggestions and paired together would be pretty cool. The keystep is just a little big for small travel, I think. Its almost 22in in length. It would not fit into my current travel backpack.
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How about a Circuit? It makes a great midi controller. Pads and knobs, battery powered, along with 2 poly synths and 4 drum lanes/sample playback, Also you can do tricks like pre-programme chords in the sequencer to play back through midi. Not the cheapest solution though. YMMV.
Are the pads on the beatstep the same as the minilab v1? I can get a beatstep for 30 bucks I wanted it because of the cv option although I know shit about cv lol
Btw, I just bought my third Akai lpd8!
Edit (and that's not because they're breaking!)
Thanks everyone for their insight and suggestions.
@supadom are the pads on the lpd8 similar to the MPK mini mk2 or do you know?
I was at chick-fil-a yesterday, letting the kids play, trying to get the Quneo to work for me. It just doesn't do it for me.
That being said, I mostly make music in my office upstairs. I have an Axiom 49 gen2, which is great and my main controller. I do use my Korg Triton Taktile 25 some and I have a Korg NanoKontrol 1 which is used very little but nice to have sometimes.
The thing I am missing is a dedicated pad controller. the LPD8 looks good and for the price, 2 for about $100 USD and I could have 16 pads and 16 knobs. I do like the idea of the MPK mini but already having a 25 key midi controller, it feels kind of silly to buy another one. Although the Korg Taktile is not small and usually finds itself on a shelf instead of being used where the MKP mini seems small enough to fit easily beside or in front of my axiom.
amazon seems to have the MPD232 on sale right now for $179.99, which is very tempting, and could easily fit in my backpack for travel and work nice in my studio, not duplicating anything else. But without someone buying my quneo, it would be hard to scrounge up enough to get it and upgrade to Komplete 11 at this 50% discount right now.
A BeatStep for 30 bucks is an easy Buy It. Not sure about the minilab but the pads on the BS are nice. They're firm but responsive. A little give/squish. Plus, 16 presets and easy midi channel switching. And knobs. And on board scales. I don't use the sequencer often these days because I also have to pro but it's a fun sequencer too. Really, the only bummers about it are: 1) need a PC to program the pad/knob values in controller mode (but that's the same as every controller I know of and it makes up for it with 16 presets and easy midi channel switching) and 2) it can send MIDI clock via traditional DIN but can only receive midi clock via USB. If you want it as a controller for software, this is a non-issue.
Looks like some mad genius hacked up a beatstep configuration panel in TB MIDI Stuff. http://www.untergeek.de/2014/11/taming-arturias-beatstep-sysex-codes-for-programming-via-ipad/
Sadly, the link to the panel itself is down. Anyone have it?
Kordbot $280 US dollars
BTLE
MIDI (CC)
arpeggiator
chord banger & suggester
Chord spread
Knobs keys and pads
Memory recall
Silicon plastic bod LCD screen
Ships AUG2017
I'm tempted. This or the 2 Korg nanoKontrollers. Got a Beatstep Pro and Keystep at home.
Funny, I have a BSP and Keystep and am also considering a Kordbot. Thing looks amazing.
So I thought I had it narrowed down the Arturia Mini Lab MK2. I like all the knobs plus 2 banks of pads.
But then I was looking at the picture of an Akai MPK mini mk2 and saw something interesting. The ability to quickly switch the pads from notes to CC or PC commands. What I can't figure out is if the CC commands are just on/off switches or could you send variable velocity when the CC is selected? Could help persuade me in the MPK mini if you can.
I have a MiniLab mk I and I love it. I wanted something with pads and knobs, but more pads than knobs and this fit the bill. The mod and pitch strips take some getting used to but aren't bad. If you want to fully customize it you need to use the SW, but there are so many apps now with MIDI learn that I don't find it to be much of an issue.
The MiniLab is small enough to fit in my messenger bag so this works for me.
I have MPK mini and is brilliant. Completely portable, doesn't need powered hub, sustain button included. Cons? Does not have a Footswitch jack,nor mod or pitch wheel.
Conclusion: if it's only for travelling this one is perfect.