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Sounds like @Dubbylabby beat you to it:
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/19261/roli-seaboard-block
its not a contest lol I didnt see his post and I cant delete it
I won something?
Come and enjoy the topic, @Shazamm!
YOU WON YOU WON lol Im all in sir.. Question, is it Bluetooth midi or only works with noise app. does it even work with seaboard 5d. Ill buy it for that alone and the Equator desktop app
I don't think you get the Equator synth with this. Only a player version. (With a Rise you also get Bitwig-8 track and Strobe 2).
Roli send me a 20% coupon but i'm not interested in small keys (they are much smaller than the Rise).
I might ask them if i'm allowed to gift my code (not sure).
your awesome sauce........ But I want to use it with my ipad and string two together and fit it in a laptop bag
Yup Player only seems... check the software bundle.
https://roli.com/products/blocks/seaboard-block
wow bumbed lol guess Ill have to get the Rise
https://support.roli.com/manuals/seaboard-block-creator-manual/
If you are strictly on mobile and iOS then this smaller seaboard is a very good device for an MPE controller at a very reasonable price. I have a RISE but think I would go for two of these and have more keys and save a bit of money to boot. If you use a laptop in addition then Bitwig and the full Equator are great and then you need to get the bigger boys. I am happy to stay completely on iOS these days.
My big issue with ROLI is that their iOS apps still to this day do not support AB, IAA, let alone AU. I visit the JUCE forum regularly to see when the long ago promised IAA support will land. Still not there and the devs continually say they can not talk about it. Sigh. Luckily other iOS apps support MPE and full connectivity of audio on iOS.
It's a shame, since I love the 5D app and it's sounds but cannot use them in AUM, AB, or my iOS DAWs.
Lol.
Poke around here since the ROLI apps are dependent on JUCE which they appear to own and JUCE seems to imply AU support...
https://forum.juce.com/t/auv3-effect-ios-provisioning/20252
I want two as well If I can use them with any app
After a bit of forum research it looks like MPE (Multidimensional Polyphonic Expression) is only directly supported in iOS in a few apps - Animoog, Model 15, GeoShred, ThumbJam. Maybe more now?
How useful would the Seaboard Block be without a lot of tedious preparation?
garageband too
wait let me stop he was using the mac version lol
seaboard 5d app
I might get the K-Board Pro 4
See Roger Linn’s list.
Speaking of Roger Linn, just listened to a fascinating interview he did last year about MPE.
In fact, partly because of the Seaboard Block announcement, been spending much of my day wondering about MPE devices which would suit my needs. Sent me down a kind of rabbithole. Did participate in a jam session using Magellan driven by my wind controller, getting enough expressiveness for the context. But MPE just makes me daydream.
If ROLI were to come up with a breath control module to complement the Blocks line, “my life would be complete”. Perhaps even better would be a ROLI version of the Eigenharp (which kind of sounds like abandonware).
Might end up getting a Seaboard Block and a standalone breath controller. Problem is that they’re all USB. And it might not be very easy to integrate MIDI CC from one device alongside MPE from another. But it could still work pretty well for a compact setup.
But not Phonem? It'd be a good match, I reckon.
While it's early days with MPE in iOS, there's enough variety to do lots of cool stuff. And there's still lots of expression you can get with an MPE controller sending multi channel messages to non MPE apps. Once you start on MPE though it's really really hard to go back. I keep wiggling my fingers on my standard controllers, hoping to get that extra expressiveness that isn't there!
What is also great with MPE controllers is that you even could use non MPE synths or making mono synth multi-timbral via using several instances (each on a different midi channel).
I use that often with my mac too.
So you can in theory use 15 different synths/patches etc. and play it like one instrument (channel 1 or 16 is always the global).
Now you could go further and combine that with things like Polymer, Audiobus 3 or whatever.
It's not always useful because it can be a bit over the top but it's nice to have the choice if you need/want that.
from Roli youtube channel
Thanks for the questions! The Seaboard Block sends standard MIDI data so can be used with any 3rd party MIDI applications. Some 3rd party applications will be able to unlock the full expressive potential of the Seaboard's surface, and BLOCKS Dashboard allows you to set the exact behaviour of the Seaboard Block to suit the needs of any musical applications. And yes, it does with with Seaboard 5D :-)
Thanks for relaying this! That’s what we thought but it’s useful to get confirmation.
By the by, what do we know about the Bluetooth MIDI support in these Blocks? Since the Seaboard Block works pretty much like a keyboard version of the Lightpad Block, some negative experiences with Bluetooth MIDI would presumably carry over, no?
Are there forum members who have used the Bluetooth MIDI from one of these ROLI devices? If so, what can you say about the pairing experience? Is it working consistently?
It still surprises me that the Bluetooth SIG hasn’t made a big push for easy pairing in BT5. Maybe it is/will be easier to pair BT5 devices, but their marketing messages have mostly been about beacons, speeds, and range.
Feel the same way about breath control, to be honest! Apart from my lousy keyboarding skills, playing with any kind of keyboard feels like the world of “on/off buttons” Roger Linn has described in that aforementioned interview.
Good points!
In fact, it all ties in with my enquiries into the Eigenharp. Sounds like it’s still tethered to a desktop computer, so it wouldn’t be possible to just plug one into an iPad, which is quite a bummer. Someone who’s been playing with those very expressive devices argues that it’s a better strategy than relying on MIDI. But we all know how freeing it can be to use an iOS as a tone generator with an external controller, especially through a wireless connection.
What gives me hope, though, is that it now sounds like the desktop to which an Eigenharp is tethered could be a Raspberry Pi. Been doing some work with those (especially with Sonic Pi and Pure Data) and should receive my pisound HAT this Summer. If the Raspberry Pi can send wireless MIDI/MPE to an iOS device, my dream setup might be easier to achieve than once imagined.
Now, if ROLI were to release a breath control module, that would likely be an even better setup than the Eigenharp one.
Won’t hold my breath on this one.