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I’ve got a feeling I was wrong about this; I can’t get outputs from AUM to the ADAT in the Push.
Is there some trick to getting signals from anywhere to the ADAT ports on this?
It’s been a looong time since I’ve used an 1820, but don’t they just show up in AUM as channels 13-20? Adat ports are basically wired to the USB port and all routing is done in a DAW, not the interface.
Doesn’t ADAT extend the internal I/O of the Push 3, I was under the impression the use of something like the Behringer ADA8200 would give you another 8 in’s and outs?
It would only be analog I/O. He wouldn’t get AUM to 8200 to push, but if it’s just Push and additional 8 i/o, the 8200 is probably a better choice as it doesn’t need to be connected to a USB host. I have no real experience with it, but this is what I’ve come to know of this device.
I think the 8200 would work no questions, but I did want the moon on a stick (iPad connected at the same time for sends and even synths) so tried this one… I might be able to switch some settings using a PC but I’m told that it won’t be persistent, which kinda scuppers my hope of not having a laptop connected sometimes…
There’s plenty of interfaces that will do this. What’s your budget?
Tbh I don’t think much more than the £200 I paid for the 1820, though I’m reluctant to return it as I’ll have to pay the courier etc…
I’m actually starting to think I’ve got a faulty unit; I’ve managed to get sound to go from both the Mac and now the iPad into the Adat on the Push via the 1820. Sometimes it’s fine, other times it’s definitely got that digital distortion that I think is associated with mangled clocks… seems unreliable at best…
Could also possibly be Master or Slave and possibly sample frequency settings.
Yeah they’re all set the same, but it keeps crapping out, maybe I need to get it settled, let it run one way for a bit… I was hoping I could get it set and then connected to the iPad in the original manner I planned, semi dawless style, but like I said originally, I’m probably asking for moon on stick…
Moon on a stick, no. With that interface, yes.
For example, I just parted with my motus, but they act standalone as well. You set up routing in the interface. And you save these as various presets which you can change right from the front panel w/ no computer.
And that’s not even getting into using it as a digital mixer as well. A used ~$350 ultralite mk4 would do this.
I had 828es’s. I could send audio from adat to a mac over Ethernet on that interface. But you don’t need anything that excessive (and apparently neither did I hence parting with them).
Yeah, I think I’ll need a more expensive thing for my moon, I’ve had it working a few times today with AUM but it keeps losing clock or something, either extremely quiet or really digitally distorted… maybe bite the bulletin and return, tail between legs, lesson learned…
@Krupa Just don’t buy anything new. Audio interfaces depreciate faster and further than driving a new luxury car off the lot.
Also sometimes the simplest thing may be a solution if all you want is an iPad and a push3 standalone (and the stereo/headphone out of the push)
A bunch of us use these (not nessecarily on a push):
https://www.minidsp.com/products/usb-audio-interface/usbstreamer-box
Maybe good advice in general, though I’ve been warned about preamps being tried in second hand devices as well… that little box looks cool, no inputs though I guess and that’s my primary goal…
I did manage to get it going eventually yesterday; after plugging it into my PC, I could use the driver panel to see what the buffer was set to, and matching that with the sample rate made it work perfectly last night, but only at 96khz/512 samples… Fingers crossed this morning I turned it on, and it all still worked, but as I added a few more things into the iPad, I quickly got sporadic high frequency clicks/pops. I think that old Pro 9.7 was overloading the CPU with the high sample rate, so swapped it out for my best iPad, the still venerable air 3, and that stopped, though it has gone quiet again… odd stuff, but at least there’s life in it…
Ableton support said there’s incoming controls for the ADAT setup, so that might help long term.
It’d be nice to run it at 48khz tbh but it doesn’t seem to hook up, maybe it’ll take an update on the Push as there’s no firmware updates for the Behringer that I can find…
I’ve had very few problems with the UMC1820 with my iPads and MacMini running at the usual 48kHz, the only problems ever encountered was with projects and apps using incorrect buffer although this was rare, also another problem usually the internal master gain got reset to a lower level which can be readjusted using AUM.
Another problem I have encountered was not using the supplied USB cable, other cables I have, which are quite a few, have sometimes caused glitching in audio when used with my iPad.
Hope you get things sorted out soon btw.
Ah that’s interesting with the internal gain in AUM, I did originally correct it with the internal gain effect, I’ve since swapped to doing it on the external instrument return on the Push, it seems to work the same, but I’m not sure if I’ll be losing bit depth somewhere… still in testing tbh but it’s feeling like it’s settling into a really lovely setup and I’m suddenly happy again about the excessive amount of apps I’ve bought won been gifted etc, after feeling some regret after returning to desktop… all is well 🙏
Btw @knewspeak , do you know how to set that master internal gain? I realised that it was working at the more reasonable sample rates, just incredibly quietly, and only by adding large amounts of gain with utility modules in either/both AUM and in live on the Push can it be brought into audible range. I’m worried it’s losing quality doing that though, it’s definitely hard to get a loud clean sound… something strange afoot
In Audioshare there’s the section for recording and monitoring, when I encountered this problem I used to correct the volume there, it’s an internal software gain, I think others have experienced this with different types of hardware too, I think recently with microphones.
Hmm, I can only see input gain as a setting in audiobus, same as AUM, and that’s not really the problem, it’s easy to redline the meters in AUM with my guitar or a synth coming in, but it’s the audio that’s getting piped to the ADAT that’s somehow being attenuated… maybe it’s done just fixing it with the gain dynamic utility in AUM, as well as upping it again in the Push… though that doesn’t really match with what little I know about gain staging…
Maybe the problem could be similar to these in this related thread, @Hmtx has a useful checklist of possible reasons and solutions.
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/26334/behringer-umc-404-hd-issues/p2
It seems similar to the volume control on the iPad controlling the internal volume of the UMC.
Interesting cheers, it does seem about 24dB down… I’ll keep digging but use that gain tip as I have been… 👍🙏
Turns out it was the system volume, literally the physical controls on the side of the iPad upped it so that it’s fully pushing the signals clean as a whistle!
Lovely @j_liljedahl suggested it when I asked him, I’m sure my other interfaces disable the control, but he’d encountered it with his soundcraft mixer a while back.
Good info to check, have on this thread I think!
Yes its crazy, how it works, I think it’s because they were designed for desktop usage first and foremost using a custom designed app to control settings on the hardware which somehow map to iPad controls but aren’t exactly obvious often defaulting to settings probably to stop feedback loops.
Glad you got it sorted anyway.
Yeah me too, and there was a lovely deep rumble of feedback through the guitar as soon as I raised the volume, I had to hustle stop it before it frightened the neighbours 😅😂