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How did you arrive at this general consensus? I see lots of BS/P complaints out in the wild but most of them seem silly or nit-picky or wanty. As popular as these are, there's lots being said out there. And, I think it's natural that the Internet is going to have more complaint/request comments than it is going to have love posts.
They're solid pieces of gear. There are some bugs, but they're generally resolved in firmware updates. Seems to me the BSP is exactly what you're looking for.
A lot of forums have had negative things to say about the BSP. I figure if worse comes to worst, I'll just return it.
I'm leaning toward the BSP or a Circuit, for the price points. MAYBE a tr-8, I had one but sold it before I understood the full power of its MIDI sequencing.
The zaquencer looks really cool but between the behringer and the cost for the firmware, that's a lot of coin to drop on a hack.
How's the beat sequencing on the circuit, relative to x0x style l?
keep in mind, if you go with a BSP or similar you will not get any visual feedback when you change things on the iPad! this is where the SparkLe controller would be best at if they fixed the firmware...
That's only true if using the iPad to sequence the drums. With the BSP or the Circuit (etc), the OP would be using the hardware to sequence the drum sound source.
Yeah, I just wanna make live beats on the fly. Being able to control synths would be cool, but an inexpensive x0x sequencer would make the cut.
I'd be paying attention to the sequencer and not the iPad.
If I had a bunch of money to spare, I'd get another iDevice and build something in midi designer pro which has awesome btle out. But right now, I have one iPad running music, another running video and my iPhone is running a midi designer pro panel I made to control TouchVIZ (pretty cool actually although hell of ugly, I assigned the FX parameters to x/y pads for real time finageling)
Lemur and touchosc are pretty cool, but not BTLE.
If anyone wants my TouchVIZ panel, I'd send it over.
A circuit might be the best option because even though it only has 4 drum elements, it has 2 synth sequencers and is also a battery powered portable stand alone device. It's around $250 used at guitar center. I could double up the circuit and iPad audio output as well.
Protip: always check guitar center's used and blemished inventory. It's much cheaper, you still have a 30 day warranty. I recently bought a blemished yamaha acoustic at about half the price of a new one and for the life of me I cannot find the flaw. You may pay a little more than craigslist or ebay, but free shipping and 30 day return if it ends up being crap counts for something.
The mpd232 looks interesting also
Also, any thoughts on the m-audio trigger finger pro? It looks like a variation on the mpd232
Was trying to remember this very unit. I've never used it but remembered it had the step sequencer. Probably pretty cheap used at this point.
Okay, I think I've got it narrowed down between the akai (fully customizable midi out implementation being a real boon) and the circuit. Are you able to edit the midi parameters? I saw that the drum midi out sends four specific notes.
The thing I really love about akai is the editing software lets you do essentially anything with the midi out implementation.
Re the circuit:
But if I wanted to use it with say, ruismaker, which has specific notes for each element, could I change those midi out notes? I've seen software which lets you get really deep into the circuit's synth engine, and the drum machine as sampler is nice. But can I use all that stuff to change the midi out, such as making the knobs output to a different cc# or the drum pads sending different notes out?
You could just remap the notes using audiobus filters midiflow scales and transpose like I did for my ruismaker multi out rack. I basically converted gm midi into what ruismaker likes. Regarding the knobs you need the standalone midiflow.
At roughly $100 used from guitar center in good condition, I think I'm going with the trigger finger pro. No software to edit midi values like the akai, but you can do it from the console and it allows you to save and change patterns.
That thing is pretty sweet, good for sequencing drums and synths (can change paramaters per step value for each pad).
I've got an mpd218 still within its return period at GC, so I'll just bring that back and have enough scratch to grab one.
Thank you to everyone for your suggestions, answers and input. You helped me find the right gear for me at a superb price, audiobus forums!!! You guys are the real MVP.
http://community.m-audio.com/m-audio/topics/trigger-finger-pro-out-of-sync
http://polyend.com/seq-sequencer/
1299 USD
Trust me, you wouldn't take a 1,200 sequencer to some of the shitholes I gig in!!! I might just buy two trigger finger pros at the GC used price, one to stash somewhere.
Still way cheaper than a BSP and around the same price as the akai.
I've had a bad habit in the past of ending up with gear I don't need because I can't integrate it into my workflow.
Check the link I have posted before buy the tfp.
Like @Dubbylabby mentioned the trigger fingers have some sync issues. checkout the link he posted.
Welll, shiiit. Guess it's the AKAI then.
Yup. For what you wanted the Akai seems to be it. It mentions iOS compatibility and It's dropped in price, so there's that
Yeah, it's a real tossup between the Akai and the TFP. Used from guitar center is solid because of the return policy, so i MAY take one for the team and report back.
AKAI is rock solid though and the configuration software works great. Also it was designed with the iPad as an actual factor.
I'm not sure how the sync issues would effect me, or what that even means, in the context of using it to drive midi to say, magellan and DM-2.
The 232 sure would look pretty plugged into a wej with my mk2 mini though
I shy away from expensive kit because I play in some real shitholes sometimes and if you wanna get paid you gotta stay until the club closes.
Once again, ya'll are the real MVP.
Here's my website - the music link on the page will take you to my soundcloud.
http://slowflood.com
Love any feedback, criticism, praise or suggestions!
The stuff in the "blackout" playlist is the most recent released material and I'm proud to say you can see a real progression from my earlier stuff (in the other playlist) and I think the material I'm working on now is even better.
This one is like Electribe, beatstep, and circuit all in one!
920USD
Of special note to MOBILE musicians:
Powered via USB
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9 – 12V centre-negative (pedal-style) power supply (500mA) (not included).
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Internal speaker, rechargeable Li-ion battery (6+ hours of operation).
https://synthstrom.com/product/deluge/
I want all of these damn sequencers.
I'm going with the AKAI. Anything over $200 isn't gigging with me. I lost an electribe esx (the big red metal ones) I got for $100 from someone who didn't know what it was worth at a gig one time.
I have a big aluminum case and if it can't fit in that and a backpack, it doesn't go with me.
Also the akai will most likely work with the wej. All AKAI stuff I've tried has done well with it. Also the MPC and x0x options are pretty sexy.
The latest Roland
https://www.roland.com/global/products/a-300pro/
Is very good