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BM3: bank vs pad
what's the advantage of using a bank (with a maximum of 8) for an instrument against using a pad within a bank? the manual says that you usually will choose a whole bank to represent/contain one instrument.
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Easier track mixing on the mixer?
i see, so it's an 8 track mixer for banks a to h?!
Yes for Banks but also you can add audio tracks and fx channels.
Actually. You can add audio tracks and set source for then to each individual pad. So each bank can do 128 outs. Just mute the bank and set monitor on for each audio track to have 128 individual volume controls.
Someone should do a video tutorial showing this.
got it thanx!
It's actually literally that simple. Not sure a video would be needed. I might make a post with pictures though.
Ok thanks for the tips.
I did as you said and created an audio track for each instrument in the same bank. It works great, so that's a simple "workaround" for the 8 tracks limitation. And when the patterns are converted to audio they are no longer tied together. It's a bit of extra work but I can live with that (for now). Thanks.
Banks are not to be confused with tracks... 1 bank is 128 tracks
True. My fault
As I expressed my disappointment in the " need BM3 thread " , although each pad can have its own midi part , ALL those parts are nested in the single midipattern per Bank exposed in Sequencer view making individual triggering impossible in Scenes view & editing/arrangement a pita in Song view ; so from a midi sequencing point of view I think Bank is preferable to Pad , & BM3 is an only 8 part midi sequencer at the moment .
I hope @mathieugarcia can add each Pad's midi part to the Sequencer individually , or add more Banks in the future .
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also , btw , I've just reported a possible bug in Bug Thread ( unless user error ) whereby Pads are not correctly channelising incoming midi , so another reason for the moment why I'll be using my Banks individually .
Is it possible to mute a pad so it stops sending midi? That way you could build a pad with all the maximal tracks running, then duplicate it across timeline/scenes/whatever. Then for each one you'd mute the tracks you didn't want.
That's not a track either. Your talking about a clip. A track is just that, a track, like a railroad track. It's a lane that can either hold one note or a group of notes or a loop or whatever. A clip can be an audio clip or a midi clip that can be moved in the song arranger. And a pattern is a sequence. With the banks you have 128 tracks and likely unlimited sequences/patterns and those sequences can have unlimited lengths.
Export everything in your bank and then drag and drop arrange it in the song sequencer.
Another way to do it is to make several copies of the same pattern and put those in the scenes. Unfortunately muting does not automate but you can automate the volume with the trigger pad or mixer fader per pattern. The key is having a different pattern for each scene.
@LucidMusicInc No , Pattern length seems to be set " Globally" for the Bank, & individual Pad Midi " Parts " as I'm calling them are the same length , unless you can show how to do differently .

The patterns are independent of each other in terms of length, and they can be as long as 1-100+ bars. You could do an entire song with one bank and one pattern if you wanted.
Just create a new pattern and set the length. If the other pattern lengths change it's a small bug and you can set them to your preferred length.
@LucidMusicInc I thought you were referring to each Pad's midi Part being independent length , which they arent . Sorry if that wasnt what you meant :
"With the banks you have 128 tracks and likely unlimited sequences/patterns and those sequences can have unlimited lengths."
Forget about the scenes. Make some patterns and arrange them on the song sequencer. Then adjust the length of the patterns. It's just like Cubasis.
Pads are tracks. Banks are groupings of tracks. You can have unlimited pattern per bank. Patterns contain any combination of events happening in the tracks be they loops, midi melodies or one shots. Therefore you only need one bank to make a song. The other 7 are there for the sake of convenience.
Is it possible to just copy a pattern to another pattern or into another bank? I just can't figure out how because it's only duplicates..
I and many others would be eternally grateful if someone would be willing do a video explaining all of this...
True !
This thread is actually a great vessel for understanding the music making paradigm that we're dealing with here.
Everyone in tech is talking about storytelling these days. Maybe they're barking up the wrong tree. They need to get on board with getting the message about their fancy business ideas across in the form of a good old fashioned argument .. and good luck to anyone who disagrees!
this is needed.
You can drag a pattern out of one bank's pattern list and place it on another bank's timeline. That will create a copied pattern in the second bank's pattern list.
Good points. There's a discussion starting on the Intua forum about this.
oh yeah, and get people complaining bitterly that their comments are "censored". Maybe not such a good idea.