Understanding CC in iFretlessBass

SkillipEvolver

Hey guys

I've set up what I feel is a nice combination of sounds (playing an FM bass sound in iFreltess) combined with a custom patch I made in KorgModule. I did this by making IFretless control KorgModule

The two sounds in unison are nice, but I'm using the onscreen UI in IFretless to play (no physical keyboard), so I don't have a modulation or tremolo wheel).

Try as I might I've never been able to make the remote app (KorgModule) play a smooth slide when dragging my finger along the IFretless strings.
(It will just play each note of Module separately).

I would like my playing to sound more natural so I would like to use tremolo. The KorgModule online manual talks about (for example) on an electric piano sound (CC #102) is the tremolo number.

So I set that to the XY pad in iFretlessBass but it has no effect. (I set it to 102 for both X and Y).
There is also the VELOCITY -> CC drop-down just below in the IFretless UI, should I be tweaking this instead?

Last thing, there is also a bunch of 'patches' in a further drop down menu on the IFretless UI, but I can't tell what they do either.

Oo, one last thing.. the KorgModule manual suggests that CC parameters are not available for sounds in the 'Synth' category of the app. This is a if shame to me because its synth sound I'm using!! (it doesn't say it CANT, it just lists CC values for all the other categories ie a.piano, e.piano, etc. etc.)

-is the manual out of date?

I've tried about probably a year ago to suss this but gave up. I'd love to crack it this time. I want to make my playing more natural and being able to adjust all manner of things on the fly would be the icing.

-the only one I've managed successfully to adjust using the XY pad on-screen is bog-standard volume).

Thanks for reading.

SkillipEvolver

Anyone out there messing with iFretless?

SkillipEvolver

Geez.... I guess this software ain't so popular!
Personally I like it. I pipe midi synths through to in regularly.

I'm not so good with a horizontal keyboard.
But something which resembles a fretboard of a guitar, I can get with.

aaronpc

I do like it and use it sometimes, but not with outside apps. It is highly optimized to work with their internal sounds, and may not translate to other apps in a predictable manner. Could be wrong, but haven't tried too much.

SkillipEvolver

Their user guide PDF online doesn't help much.

wigglelights

I don't have Module, but I've had success driving other apps with ifretless (although in those cases not using any cc's).
In terms of slide - ifretless sends pitchbend when one slides a note. The trick is making sure that ifretless' pitchbend send setting AND THE RECIEVING SYNTH's pitchbend settings match. I believe by default ifretless sends a range of 12 (one octave, and labeled as bend range in iF midi settings) and the receiving synth must be set to the same number to stay in pitch. This also allows for vibrato by rocking your finger over a note.
Velocity - ifretless sorta uses the motion sensor to guess how hard you hit the screen to control the dynamics of the internal sounds, and transmits that same data as midi velocity. It's somewhat imprecise, but works as advertised (with practice).
Again, I haven't tried using the xy pad to send cc's, but sending the same cc on both axis' is not advisable; their going to cancel each other out. Choose one axis, and send the the other to a non-active cc.
And again, not owning it, not sure why Module would "step" through pitches, but perhaps it's trying to stay "accurate" to the real world to the keyboard instruments you mentioned - pianos don't bend. Perhaps it's a setting in Module as to how it interprets pitchbend?

Best of luck