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I'd love to have the answers too!
I'm hoping not to be completely wrong but here's my take on all 8 of them! @tja
P1: The most organically sampled out of all, it has sympathetic resonance/overtones in the tail ends of the notes, many details including imperfections like how real wood would sound. Hammer sounds slightly too loud. I'm guessing it's the Colossus (sampled Bechstein?)
P2: Samples are high quality, but effect is causing way too much flanging.
P3: Lacking in treble, but has a nice low end. Sounds like a sampled Yamaha but also probably an EQed dark/jazz version of one of the apps
P4: Major flanging in the reverb. Sounds like it has less layers than most other tracks, guessing iGrand
P5: Most balanced of all, versatile and sterile in a good way. Very pleasant sounding. I do hear some slight distortion from saturation near 1:30 in the clip.
P6: Has a tine in the notes that I don't really like, guessing Ivory in Module
P7: Notes bleed into each other a bit too much, lacking definition, distortion in the last chord.
P8: Smooth sounding but lacking in treble and clarity which is probably an EQ issue.
1 > 5 > 3 > 8 > 7 > 6 > 2 > 4
My favourite was number five, closely followed by eight and three.
Really interested to know what each one was.
Thanks very much for setting this up tja
Number 5.
Interesting test. Thanks @tja. Wonder how much SoundCloud's algorithms affect the sound. Curious to know what the velocity ranges where in the midi file as that is to me another important factor along with eq, reverb, etc.
Most of the pianos I use on iOS do not have similar velocity response curves nor the ability to significantly change it (Cmp has a decent velocity curve setting).
5,1,3
8,6,7
4,2
None of them were “bad” and all could be used in a mix, albeit some were brighter, others more mellow. Overall I think 1 was my favourite, least favourites were 6 which sounded a bit harsh, and 7 and 8 which were rather mushy (probably 2 presets from the same app). 2 was over reverbed.
Thanks for doing it - it would be interesting to see how they performed with a piece that had more extreme highs and lows and wider dynamics.
Agree with your assessment of P3 - very clear/defined Yamaha(esque) bottom end. I'm thinking the muted treble actually helps it in this context and overall it gets my vote.
P7 & P8 have that 'modeled' quality to them reminiscent of the early Pianoteq sound.
Sorry to bring back and old thread but I’m looking to buy a piano and found this thread. Curious about the P1-P8 samples, what they were?
My favorite was P5 - had the most natural sound to me- and least favorite was P2...sounded very strange. P8 also had a nice sound as well. Thanks for putting those together!
Send an PM to @tja for information regarding witch piano no 5 was...
Gracias, will do.
I’m really liking 5, 1, and 3 in that order.
My top three were 5-8-7 with 3 very close to 3rd as well.
@tja
My favorites are 1, 7, and 8.
And thank you for doing this. It was fun.
I think no 3 sounds too compressed...
Hard to tell, but perhaps no 5 is best for me....
For this piano piece I liked the low end strengths of:
P3
P1
P7
P8
Mostly because they bring out the lower notes as the bottom notes move towards the pedal C1 in the last 4 bars. The other 5 pianos fail to give these bass notes any depth. Perhaps with some EQ these issues could be addressed and in a mix that extra bass presence might not be welcome but a pianist would likely avoid playing any notes in that range with a bass player active.
You can filter out extra bass but it's really hard to add rich bass if the sample didn't get it right. People tend to prefer sounds with heavier bass... They always think the ported Bass Stereo speakers are better because they produce more bass with the same amp. But What you want is an even approach across the spectrum and the P3,P1,P7 and P8's seemed to bring the bass cleanly up in the mix. I'd pay more for that capability. And be thankful for anyone that provided such a piano for free (I'm lookin' at you SoundFonts4u). He should take tips or have a Patreon site so he can do more for the community of broke musicians. At these IOS prices we can all play assuming we can afford the Apple device.
A Bill Evans MIDI file with the bass player active might wing more to one of the brighter pianos that bring out more bell like tones for example.
This game never ends and the answers seem to change with the questions. Today I bought the Auria Pro App because it showed more free sampled pianos included IAP for the $25 entry fee. Can I have enough Piano's to play and inspire me? No. Money well spent compared to the caffeine and sugar drinks I splurge on.
can you PM me the results?? thx!
FYI: The 5 pianos I got with Auria Pro are not great except for the Salamander Grand and I had that in BS-16i. But I didn't have a DAW yet so the investment will prove to be a good one.
I stopped short of buying an FabFilters since I need to make something with the DAW and I can tell that's going to be a new learning curve to climb. Auria Pro does NOT tolerate the Colossus "brown" Grand. I need more than 2GB to use it in a complex situation. When I hit the wall on RAM it makes the most unmusical sound I have ever "created" in IOS.
a comparison with more dynamics would be a very welcome addition to this. Because the lack of dynamics in the midi file here makes some pianos sound good that I would not choose to play because they have too few velocity layers.
That‘s partly why the results are so surprising — it‘s not just the nature of the blind test („your ears tell you the truth“) but also the played midi file hides weaknesses in some of the pianos.
I didn't notice this thread when it was posted before.
I guess that a blind shoot out test like this comes down to personal choice and preference, and here are my quick thoughts, having listened to each sample briefly through my AKG headphones.
The 3 I liked the best were 5,1,4 in that order I think.
The others I didn't care for much at all, with some of them sounding way too ambientish and reverby and a couple sounded too woody and a few were too dull sounding for my taste.
I already own a few of the pianos listed, but not all of them, so I'm curious to see the results.
double..................
This is a new thread for me too. I've played piano professionally most of my life, but I think my ears are shot to pieces! For me, my favourite three (because they sounded immediately like real pianos) were 3, 4 and 7. 3 just edges it for me, because the low end is rich without being too muddy, and it has clarity in the middle octaves. I'd like to hear them all play something heavier - Blue Rondo A La Turk would work, but the ipad might explode. I own iGrand, but haven't used it since I bought the Ivory upgrade in Module. PM please, @tja, and thanks for a great thread!