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VIdeo...Goose EQ Stereo Equalizer AUv3 Demo for the iPad
Here is a demo of the Goose EQ in Action on multiple tracks in Cubasis
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its a nice EQ , i could understand the subscription even though i don't like it, but i did subscribe to this app foe 1 year, well see how the development goes over the year period.
@thesoundtestroom good one
I'm really liking it.
There was a bug with the first update released yesterday, and I shot an email to the developer. He responded in less than 5 minutes that he was already on the case.
The whole thing was resolved within a couple of hours and the updated app was working beautifully. That was just incredibly responsive.
For those who are put off by the subscription model, I would like for them to consider that this shows an upside to that approach. This developer considers this to be an ongoing relationship. The same can not be said for many of the apparent "You buy it. You drive it off the lot. Oh...and best of luck." attitude of many developers.
I gave up on Adobe, when it became rental ware. I don't want an 'on-going relationship.' This is a business transaction, not an Internet dating agency. I want to buy quality apps at a fair price, and own that download.
But would you then be happy to pay for major updates via IAP?
Many apps get forgotten about because its practically impossible to make major updates for free, and as we all know many are now falling away because of the iOS 11 64 bit thing, whereas it's more than likely that if major updates were via IAP we would definitely see more of our beloved apps still been updated.
It's also fair to add that when developers do major work that they release a whole new app that is basically the same app but with major improvement, Auria, Audiobus and BM3 being the most obvious, when that happens people often not happy also, but these companies realise the impossible nature of free updates for life, it's just not that feasible anymore with iOS because it's getting better and more powerful all the time
Excellent video Doug. I just wish @lucas would add a non-subscription option. He said if he were to charge a one-time fee, it'd be about 4 times the 1-year subscription rate. 4*3.49=13.96, so about $13.99. I'd pay him $19.99 for Goose EQ, which is more than 5x, but alas. Can't fix "stubborn".
NOW, if Lucas really wanted me to lure me into trying his idea of pricing, he may just win me over by making an auto-ducking AU in the same vein as, say, Nicky Romero's Kickstart, Cable Guys' Volume Shaper 5, XFer's LFO Tool, well you get the drill. Something to emulate sidechain pumping and quick transient ducking in Cubasis.
Personally I don't think the iOS world is ready for the subscription model yet, but I think it will come eventually and I think it will be a big company who push it forward, maybe Roland with their Cloud thing or even EWQL Offering a stripped down version of their stuff or Omnisphere.
Just saying I can see the logic of the idea from a developers point of view
I also agree with several points here too like the fact that your always going have those apps you bought even though you only use them once in a while, although I'm still going to feel a bit pissed when 60% of the old apps that I did buy don't work anymore..it's all very difficult and subjective
It’s just a matter of time, with the direction of ios11 I could see subscription becoming a big thing, but give us an option to buy the app also.
I guess with subscription all app IAP is free.
Yeah, I'm really digging those long requested updates to (blank)
I'm not picking on (blank), but if subscription models lead to the type of responsiveness such as that exhibited by J Goossen, I'm willing to overcome my own disinclination to go with a subscription app.
I can dig the fact developers need an income too, but there are so many people against a subscription model, it ain't even funny. Other reasons subscriptions for apps sucks is...
Is the developer coming up with new content/material every month/year, or is it just the same old features and only bugs being fixed? If it's the latter, it can be likened to subscribing to a monthly magazine that prints the same articles over and over.
It's difficult for anyone to keep track of a ton of monthly subscriptions, because it'll start to bite the person in the ass with unexpected charges due to forgetfulness. It's not a cognitive dysfunction either but rather human nature to lose track of things.
I mean, okay, I'll level. I can see if a developer offers a big bundle of plugins like Waves Mercury (or whatever Waves' largest bundle is) for $29.99/month (because the normal price is $7,500). The ends basically justifies the means, because you're paying a monthly subscription to use over 100 professional plugins. Not only that, but technically more plugins can be made, thereby justifying the subscription pricing even further by offering new content on a timetable.
See, look at EastWest and what they did. $29.99/month allows you to use their entire library (1TB if I'm not mistaken) of great instruments (although my problem is I don't produce on the PC anymore
fml). Furthermore, any new libraries they create will be automatically covered by said subscription. Again, new content being offered on a timetable. The ends justifies the means.
The reason Spotify Premium works is you'd pay $9.99 or even more just for one album. Here at $9.99/month, you have unlimited access to all albums and singles on the service. And of course, new albums are released every day (constant influx of new content). (Of course, if my favourite music is yanked from Spotify, I write to the artist and tell them "I pay $9.99 for premium, so put your f-ckin music back on Spotify or else!"
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Okay okay, back to creation apps. It's simple to keep track of a small handful of subscriptions, especially if they're for bundled items. However, a hybrid pricing model would be the best for single-function apps with no room to add new content (like EQs, compressors, mastering limiters, etc). This way, a higher one-time fee ($19.99 or so) can be charged as an option to help the devs get a sustainable income, and those who "want it now for cheaper" can go the $1.49/month subscription route.
It's rather silly to charge a subscription-only pricing model for a single-function "no new content" app, and THIS is why I am very much against buying Goose EQ. I don't want the "subscription pricing or nothing for my single-function app that won't have too much more added" type of thing becoming the norm.
(However, like I said, if Lucas wants to get me in on the subscription take, even if temporarily, he better offer something that nobody else has in the Appstore, like my XFer LFO Tool knock-off AU app I keep complaining about not existing on the appstore. (No, seriously, aside from GUI design pains, how difficult is it for someone well-versed in code to create a simple f-cking volume tool? I'd do it if I knew how to code stuff in Python beyond simple stochastic random selection stuff.
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I will gladly pay IAPs for useful updates.
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Yep. No problem with that. Just as long as the developer keeps faith, as it were.
What I mean by that is, as you may recall, Intermorphics the makers of ambient apps, released full versions of those apps which we bought, successive times, often without that much difference, thinking it kept things going, etc. Only to find those apps abandoned in an effort to force customers into a stupidly priced subscription model.
I'd never trust the company again. But any developer delivering a major update who wanted to charge for that would have my support.
Just to add a point of clarification:
"Wotja 2017"* (non-subscription version) - the paid for version of Wotja and has the same capabilities as Wotja (Unlocked). It has no In-App Store or In-App Subscriptions and will be updated in tandem with the subscription version up until the end of 2017. If you want further updates after this time you would need to purchase the next paid for version.
That is all.
Also, let's remember that in the same marketplace is Fab Filters Pro-Q2, which blows this app out of the water and has a pay once pricing model.
@Zen210507: you keep telling the story wrong: Intermorphic never forced anyone into anything. On the contrary: as soon as I told them about my problems with subscriptions, they offered a full-priced version rapidly. Also, the paid updates in the years before always had their offerings (with lots of free updates in between). Please don't keep putting (the wrong) gas in the fire, start digging into what their Apps are actually offering, if interested, and you'll notice the work that went into them, year after year. Or just don't buy them.
By the way: I am not affiliated with them in any way, I just feel they are wrongly accused, and I truly love what can be done with their Apps (also still with Noatikl, their precursor to Wotja).
Intermorphic are simply looking for ways to make this a sustainable business, you know. Which, in the long run, we all will benefit from.
Cheers, t
Every thread about this app turns into one against the subscription model.
If you're not interested i the subject of the thread please consider to look elsewhere.
I know what you think about subscription, you repeat it continuosly.
The fact that you're unable of manage correctly your subscription's costs it's not an argument, and I'm sorry to say this but honestly it's laughable.
I am not a fan of the subscription model, but developers should have the right to choose it.
Time and free market will say if it's been a good choice or not.
Stop hijacking every thread about this app
Please.
Okay, forced was the wrong word. Let me correct that to attempted to steer customers.
Intermorphics did release slightly improved versions of apps, treat them as if they were major new products, and charged full price. App Store receipts prove that, not just for me but for everyone who supported them.
Then we find that those self-same apps will no longer be developed, and so are effectively abandoned. In their place is a kind of collective app, incorporating the best bits of the others. Except, this app was either on subscription, or at a high price that would need to be paid again, the next update, if it was still going to work.
Lastly, they moan like hell when people - loyal paying customers - object to this, sending private messages, etc, and completely missing the point.
Are you talking to me?
The subscription model is central to this app, and therefore entirely valid as part of the discussion.
No one is stopping you from discussing any other aspect of the app, so instead of trying to censor comment, please share your view.
This app is the first one whose developer refused to add on a one time fee option, so I should say the subscription pricing is a HUGE part of this subject.
Good.
What's laughable is you expecting the rest of us who are against subscriptions (whether partially or fully) to keep quiet and "behave" because poor you didn't get to have the stimulating conversation about the lack of mid/side filtering, or the fact other AU EQs exist.
Also, you could've redirected the conversation by simply saying "Well, subscriptions aside, I'd rather talk about such and such features." Guess you weren't able to figure that one out for yourself?
Just as we reserve the right to protest the pricing model.
At least we can agree on this.
Again, this app is the first music production app where the developer refuses to change his pricing format. It's not our fault he decided to unintentionally make that the most talked about feature of his app.
Yeah, a subscription pricing for a single-function app with little to no room for new content is ridiculous. People are going to talk about it. If you don't like people discussing their opinions about it, then go off to your safe space.
Quite right. It's the attempt to shut up legitimate discussion that irritates.
Saying "blah dee blah is not an argument" is the most banal example of a diversion tactic, probably stolen from Infowars editor Paul Joseph Watson (who basically made it his catchphrase). What Rumor should realize is this is a simple friendly music forum (where friends can disagree on occasion), not the Debate Club in a political science class. There are no arguments here, just very strong opinions.
Besides, opinions are like buttholes. Everyone has one, and they all stink.
Talk about a whinge fest. Two weeks free trial and then a penny a day (albeit in advance, so technically you will lose interest on that (facepalm)), on a non automatic update subscription. All future updates included in the price. If you paid full price up front you wouldn't be breaking even for four years, by which time there'll either be more advanced apps, or this app will have advanced too, at no extra cost. Sounds like a pretty elfin good deal to me! As for the confusion regarding future subscription models and DD withdrawals, firstly this hasn't happened yet and no one knows if it will for sure, and secondly talk about wanting your arse wiped! Just sort it out, or if basic money management is too confusing, get your Mum to do it.
Or even better, you buy the app - plus one for your mummy - and let others decide what they think. If and when anyone needs your advice, we'll ask.
In the UK, this is Alex Jones.
Definitely not as smart as the American of the same name, but easier on the eye.
@tarquino
Or maybe people have cognitive disabilities that prevent them from being able to manage too much at once. You ever thought about that?
(Sorry to others, but I'm done being polite about this while these pious pompous sarcastic fools act like that the rest of us who hate subscriptions, no matter for what reason, want to be mollycoddled. It's not even that at all.)
I never thought someone named Alex Jones could look so hot.
Yes. The whole idea that I am only renting software is anathema to me. I also gave up with Microsoft Office products when they changed policy. I now buy apps such as Scrivener, from independent developers.
In the event of IOS App Store going subscription, which seems unlikely given the ratio of for and against, we'd see it coming. I'd elect to keep what I had and not update IOS or any app that had changed models.
We all have so many great apps anyway, we could still be music making for years!
She's Welsh, some say thick as a brick, but quite sexy.