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KLIMPER MUSIC COMPOSITION Setting Up & Getting Started Tutorial

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  • TobiasS1TobiasS1

    @HighEscape said:
    What i entire dislike with Klimper is that while selecting Chords or tab on a chord it does not uses Midi Audio for example Isymphonic Orchestra . Instead of that all you hear is really lowqual bleep bleep Chord Sounds.
    Later in the next step of Editing Melody and so on all Midi is there.
    This kills the actual Composing Experience for me.

    If i create Music i create Music with the real Instrument Sounds and not with a placeholder Sound.
    This is confusing.

    Great Review Video :)

    @HighEscape you obviously missed the part where Doug chooses the Ravenscroft piano as the instrument for the chords (at 1:50) :-)

  • HighEscapeHighEscape
    edited August 2017

    @TobiasS1 said:

    @HighEscape said:
    What i entire dislike with Klimper is that while selecting Chords or tab on a chord it does not uses Midi Audio for example Isymphonic Orchestra . Instead of that all you hear is really lowqual bleep bleep Chord Sounds.
    Later in the next step of Editing Melody and so on all Midi is there.
    This kills the actual Composing Experience for me.

    If i create Music i create Music with the real Instrument Sounds and not with a placeholder Sound.
    This is confusing.

    Great Review Video :)

    @HighEscape you obviously missed the part where Doug chooses the Ravenscroft piano as the instrument for the chords (at 1:50) :-)

    Wow that did it. I really missed that seconds. Well, Apologies lols.
    What should i say , perfect.

    Thx a Million for creating Klimper :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Are you using the app on iPhone?

    @HighEscape said:

    @TobiasS1 said:

    @HighEscape said:
    What i entire dislike with Klimper is that while selecting Chords or tab on a chord it does not uses Midi Audio for example Isymphonic Orchestra . Instead of that all you hear is really lowqual bleep bleep Chord Sounds.
    Later in the next step of Editing Melody and so on all Midi is there.
    This kills the actual Composing Experience for me.

    If i create Music i create Music with the real Instrument Sounds and not with a placeholder Sound.
    This is confusing.

    Great Review Video :)

    @HighEscape you obviously missed the part where Doug chooses the Ravenscroft piano as the instrument for the chords (at 1:50) :-)

    Wow that did it. I really missed that seconds. Well, Apologies lols.
    What should i say , perfect.

    Thx a Million for creating Klimper :)

  • HighEscapeHighEscape
    edited August 2017

    I am using the Ipad Air. It works good now with Isymphonic, but i get no Audio with Synthmaster or Animoog and many more in Chord Menue although everything seems fine and is showing up as example Chord Palette > Synthmaster . Also checked SM Midi Settings which seem to be correct. Ill have a closer look at that tomorrow.

  • BobbejaanBobbejaan

    @HighEscape I get sound with Animoog.

  • Matt_Fletcher_2000Matt_Fletcher_2000

    @TobiasS1 said:
    Of course it's my fault. > @Matt_Fletcher_2000 said:

    @TobiasS1 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:

    @thesoundtestroom said:

    @receder said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    Second comment: Had a proper go through Sir Doug's video (which I hadn't done before) and while I always want MORE tuts, it's really all done right here. Excellent job and I'm looking forward to writing something with this.

    I did the same and a second viewing definitely helped. I think I was confused by the first part where he has already entered chords and is entering a lead part but when he plays it back you can only hear the lead part not the chords. Definitely more tutorial videos would help. This is now top of my must buy apps.

    Yes I was at first confused by this but the chord selector is only there for you to choose the sequence and so you can hear how they sound together, not enter those actual sounds

    I did get it in the end, but in a way I wish you could enter the chords directly as is (if one wanted to), they can sound so good strummed a little...

    It seems to me that this chord-insertion thing is the one biggest source of confusion. The initial idea was that in almost any arrangement, you would not want to blast out the full chords in root position all the time. So i left it up to the user to decide on the chord inversions, voicings etc., guided by the piano roll which makes exploring all the options pretty easy. But @JohnnyGoodyear is right, there should be an option to just generate the notes as heard in the palette. Will definitely consider this for the next update.

    Hi Tobias.

    I really like the app, having bought it a couple of days ago. I can see a lot of power for composing 'proper' songs.

    However, I'm pretty sure there's a bug with the iphone6s plus - and maybe other 'plus' iPhones.

    The tempo dialogue box can't be closed once opened. The same with the pop up from the settings 'gears' icon.

    Perhaps it's a screen resolution thing that means the close button is hidden?

    Anyway - it would be great if this could've fixed for iPhone 6S plus users.

    Thanks,

    Matt

    Ps next on my wish list is live midi out so I can play the midi out to Gadget.

    Hi @Matt_Fletcher_2000, i submitted an update to the app store this morning addressing the iPhone Plus issue.
    Thanks for the heads-up!

    Thanks so much. That's what I call service ! :). Updated today and it fixes the pop up issue. Perfect.

    Next question - how do you actually save a project please? I can't get it to reliably save my work. It seems to auto save but I can't see an actual button to save and when I renamed my track after some period of work, then quit, when I reopened my work was lost.

    Great app though. Really great for song writing.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited August 2017

    Not so happy with Klimper now. I've been buliding up an intricate counterpoint piece for the past few days. First off the zoom in and out isn't always responsive and sometimes the screen freezes. Often I'm adding a note that's unwanted and too many times the note drags across the composition confusing me. I've had no issues with syncing the two instruments used in the composition and playback until now. All of a sudden both instruments are slightly out of sync and I was very careful that the tempo was never adjusted. The song has been gelling very well until now and I'm quite frustrated because I put some quality time into it and now I read that there may not be a way to save the project.......can't figure this out
    Not too happy
    And one other thing I forgot to mention. Earlier today since I've been having a fairly productive time with Klimper despite some annoyances I gave it a five star review in the App store...but now that the song has gone mysteriously wonky well.......

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited August 2017

    I just did a power off and restart. Fired up Klimper and reconnected the apps and sounds I'm using then pressed play and the music that worked so tight earlier today and yesterday in out of sync. I also pinched the tracker area down enough on my iPad screen so there's some non tracker space at the bottom and I can comfirm that when I touched my iPad screen right at the bottom it registered an unwanted note in the tracker!?! Hope this can be ironed out

  • BobbejaanBobbejaan

    @Arpseechord About saving... Have you created a project in the Project box? It then automatically saves your work in that project

    Not sure about the other issue... Have not encountered it myself. Maybe take a screenshot to explain the unwanted space thing better...

  • BobbejaanBobbejaan

    @Arpseechord, another suggestion to check the out of sync issue, export the project to a midi file and open in a DAW like Cubasis. There you will be able to view the instrument tracks along side each other. It should be clearer there what the issue is.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @Bobbejaan said:
    @Arpseechord, another suggestion to check the out of sync issue, export the project to a midi file and open in a DAW like Cubasis. There you will be able to view the instrument tracks along side each other. It should be clearer there what the issue is.

    Sent the midi file into Cubasis and dropped it into the on board piano slot then pressed play...yup it's out of sync slightly which ruins it . It's strange because it has been playing my song it Klimper perfectly until this evening and I can't figure out what happened since I'm usually very careful.
    Thanks for the tip!

  • TobiasS1TobiasS1

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Bobbejaan said:
    @Arpseechord, another suggestion to check the out of sync issue, export the project to a midi file and open in a DAW like Cubasis. There you will be able to view the instrument tracks along side each other. It should be clearer there what the issue is.

    Sent the midi file into Cubasis and dropped it into the on board piano slot then pressed play...yup it's out of sync slightly which ruins it . It's strange because it has been playing my song it Klimper perfectly until this evening and I can't figure out what happened since I'm usually very careful.
    Thanks for the tip!

    @Arpseechord First of all, i am very sorry that you had such a bad experience. I would love to know what went wrong in this case.
    How much is it out of sync, are we speaking of a typical length of a note in your composition? If you want to, you could send me your midi for me to inspect the note positions. Would love to get this sorted out.

    Thanks to @Bobbejaan for helping to narrow it down!

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    @TobiasS1 said:

    @Arpseechord said:

    @Bobbejaan said:
    @Arpseechord, another suggestion to check the out of sync issue, export the project to a midi file and open in a DAW like Cubasis. There you will be able to view the instrument tracks along side each other. It should be clearer there what the issue is.

    Sent the midi file into Cubasis and dropped it into the on board piano slot then pressed play...yup it's out of sync slightly which ruins it . It's strange because it has been playing my song it Klimper perfectly until this evening and I can't figure out what happened since I'm usually very careful.
    Thanks for the tip!

    @Arpseechord First of all, i am very sorry that you had such a bad experience. I would love to know what went wrong in this case.
    How much is it out of sync, are we speaking of a typical length of a note in your composition? If you want to, you could send me your midi for me to inspect the note positions. Would love to get this sorted out.

    Thanks to @Bobbejaan for helping to narrow it down!

    Hi Tobias, yes it's a very strange thing that happened. In the past three days I've been working on a song. I've opened up Klimper easily 20 times or more and often have to re-establish the iaa connection but after that when I played the song it was perfectly in sync.
    Then when I opened Klimper last evening and launched the song the syncing is out all the way through just enough to ruin it. The two apps I'm using are iSymphonic( Celtic harp) and Thumbjam( Sine). I noticed in iSymphonic in the upper right a latency measure that fluctuates. Could that be causing an issue? There are two tracks in my song. First is the harp which is intricate and the second is the Thumbjam lead later in the song. I could try to send you the midi file. Thanks for your concern. Despite the headaches I was enjoying very much Klimpers features that's why I was really getting into it hence the upset when the syncing problem arised.
    Cheers :)

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Tobias I just sent you the midi file
    Thank you

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