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Stereo Track to Mono Track in Auria Pro
I posted this in the Auria forum as well but since there's more traffic over here I wanted to see if anyone had any experience with this or not...
I've always wanted a simple stereo track to mono track process in Auria like so many other DAW's have. I've switched to Auria exclusively and love it, so I'm not bitching, its just in these days of apps kicking everything out in export as stereo .WAV's it would make things easier when wanting to use a mono AU effect or just have the snare drum in mono!
Tonight I tried what works on a few other DAW's I've used, just for sheets & gigs. I took a stereo region, dragged it to an empty mono track... and boom, even though the waveform still shows the two waves for a stereo track, the output is MONO, with the meter unsplit. The mono AU's like AudioDamage's RoughRider worked great, where on stereo tracks it just outputs to one side.
Is this something Corey & Rim know about, or other users who use Auria as their chief DAW? I don't mind the waveform still "appearing" in stereo as long as the output is mono (by the way, the mixer doesn't show the 'stereo rings' above the channel meter either). I have wanted this feature forever and just to stumble upon it is almost making me second guess it.... anyone else ever discover this before?
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If you have Pro-Q you can delete (cut) side part of signal and you will have mono !
Nice tip, didn't know that you could just drag a stereo region onto a mono track.
you will hear only left chanell
I messed with it using stereo tracks w/ keyboard pad and a snare, so since both channels were pretty much the same it didn't sound off. I will mess with a stereo ping pong track when I get ths chance.
We need a clear menu process that is clean and bit consistent. Using the EQ mid-side trick you decide alters the track just like playing one side does...a simple stereo to mono process is sorely needed...
Thank you for this. It's been bothering me for years that there isn't an easy way to do it. This is the easiest so far.
it's become a major annoyance when loading stems from whatever site... only to find out that 20 of the 24 tracks are actually mono... wasting bandwidth, storage and time.
And of course the vocal track is stereo with the singer's preferred crappy reverb
quick&dirty workaround:
set stereo track to solo, chose Mixdown from Menu, output mono, import as new track
Yeah, that's the only way I knew of... I went and got my iPad for my experiments and recorded percussion with one conga full left and another panned full right; when dragging this stereo track to an empty mono track both congas hit the same db's in mono as they had in extreme stereo.
So in my opinion this technique produces a genuine stereo fold down to mono, whether that's just an internal Auria routing consequence or the file is changed to mono I'm not sure. Since the waveform still shows two waves I would guess it's an Auria internal mixing thing that's summing the two sides, but EITHER WAY, it achieves the desired effect: changing the output of a stereo file to genuine summed mono.
As you say @Telefunky it seems to be a cosmic joke done by the Recording Gods: when you want a mono track you get a stereo & when you want a stereo track you get a mono...export menus adding the choice of mono or stereo alongside the file type, bit rate, etc. would solve a lot of this.
your method seems to work, but the mono result gets 6dB in level added.
I took a stereo-testfile from Audioshare and converted a mono copy in Audioshare.
Dragging the stereo source to a mono track was exactly like you described (except level)
It phased out the original mono from Audioshare perfectly if the fader was set to -6dB.
That's a normal consequence of combining to mono. Reaper has an option to set the pan law so that level drop doesn't happen when you pan hard right or left if you so desire.
But it would be nice if dragging a stereo file to a mono track took care of that all automatically, or the reverse, letting you drag two mono files to a stereo track and joining the into split stereo.
I use mixbus most of the time now on my laptop for mixing, but whether I intend to go to auria or mixbus, reaper is a very valuable stem prep tool, it makes stem creation really easy. When you group two mono tracks (or any amount) into a folder track, you just select the folder rather than individual tracks to have a stereo stem made, and there's an option to have any mono track export as mono even when stereo is selected as your output format.
I have a youtube video somewhere on it, i think those wound up on our shutterwax youtube page. Doesn't help you while in auria but it does help if iPad is part of your workflow and not the whole workflow.
I noticed the db jump too, figuring it was what I learned in my recording courses, the axiom that "doubling" adds 6db.
In this case if the stereo track was made into two mono tracks, left channel signal a mono track panned left and the right channel signal was mono and panned right, and those two mono tracks were treated as L/R stereo 'pairs' there would be no increase. But pan them both center there'd be a +6db increase. This technique is Auria doing that in a roundabout way, making an interleaved stereo file mono.
As I said, until Rim can make a simple process that changes stereo to mono (and vice versa), I'm okay with this trick, just keep the levels in check.
Edit: Was writing this when @mrufino1 answered with the right answer. Yeah, Reaper for a free (well, you should donate/pay) DAW can't be beat on desktop.
Great tip!