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Configuring a Internet-less Home Router
I just use mobile internet at home so to set up a link network I got hold of an old BT router from a friend.
Got things connected when I turned it on (no internet of course) and works reliably in a home setting for Link, but the network shuts itself down if I leave it inactive for any amount of time and makes me re-enter the wifi key for it all over again on all my devices, which is definitely not a long term solution.
There any settings and things I can configure on this thing to make it any more reliable?
Cheers,
Oscar
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Insufficient information. "old BT router" is not enough to go on.
Do yourself a big favor and get one of these or these. Cheap, portable (could be used in a live rig), and sooo easy to set up so that it can have internet access or not as you like. Also handy for transferring files between devices, PC's, USB sticks, and even USB hard disks.
I'll defo pick a fancy one up eventually but I can't really chuck out €50 or so to grab something 'intermediate'. For sure I'd grab something like that if I had a disposable income, but I'm pretty thin on the ground for gigs at the minute, as we're focusing on a development period in UDAGAN!
When I get one for live I'll get the most high end option that I can potentially afford (wireless networks in performance in public venues .. ouch! I usually just sync my second device by MIDI sync for reliability).
Until then..
Sorry man, I'm gonna bow out of this one. From what little I've read on that router, it's a piece of shite and IMO not worth your time, much less mine. I'm guessing it's bitching about not being able to "phone home" or something. Here's a nice little tidbit from Wikipedia for example:
Maybe someone else will be more accommodating. Sorry.
Is that a BTHomehub 5?
Makes Apple, Microsoft, and Google sound like saints.
Haha, oh yea I can tell you it's bollocks from personal experience. It does give me a stable (home) link network just from plugging it in and connecting things to it. It's having to re-connect everything to it every few hours including entering passwords that I thought there was maybe some setting that could be changed or some such.
I'm assuming it's related to not being connected to the internet, as I'm sure it'd work fine for its intended purposes.
Cheers for the info anyway. It's all helpful.
I might dig up the old thread we had going where people were sharing what kinds of fancy routers and settings are best for this purpose.
I'm no expert in routers but sticked with the Linksys brand when we needed a 'professional' solution. They have their own, custom 'communication OS' and never been mentioned in any of the usual security news (afaik). Quite techy stuff, tho.
I'm also no expert , ... but I wonder if more value could be gained , assuming the wifi works , from one of those multi devices offering wifi -routing , wifi storage + battery pack .
I have an earlier generation no longer available EasyAcc , but RavPower seem to still make such products . Yet to use as a network hub , I will try & test & report back at some point.
Battery only provides 1A , so no good for iPad , but phone & peripherals ok , or look for larger A model .
https://www.amazon.co.uk/RAVPower-Wireless-Portable-Companion-Streamer/dp/B00TI3WQJS/
@OscarSouth when I have an old router I always have a look on openwrt.org to see if its easy to load their generic router software. I had a look at the bt home hub and it looks like it needs a bit of soldering to be able to do it.
Open WRT can usually convert a old wifi router into a nice little linux wifi access point, if your lucky a full featured wifi repeater extender/internet proxy,cache/web server/NAS etc
Cheers all. I tweaked settings as much as possible, also dug up the old thread and read that too. Still disconnects after an hour or so and asks for passwords again on reconnect, so - dumped.
May get out my soldering iron and try out open WRT sometime, but I'm not going to pick up something else yet.
For now I've gone back to MIDI sync. Am just running Patterning and various effects on the second device, which seem stable in a MIDI Link Sync setup (plus I can do it wired by iCA4+).
Hoo Too might be a good idea for when you need portability @wim but I generally prefer to avoid battery solution if I don't need it. Say you forget to recharge it and it will die eventually etc.
I like the idea of resuscitation of an old router as they're such a disposable good in the face of our planet. I'd probably first look up a good one on Google and then try to find it on Ebay or something. I'd be interested @OscarSouth to see what solution you find, especially if in smallish format you can stick somewhere under your gear stand.
I have one HooToo that is 2" x 2" and light as a feather. It has no battery power - it uses standard USB power like from an iphone charger. I have it with me all the time and find dozens of uses for it. OP isn't interested anyway, but just clarifying.
As for the battery powered units. I've run it for 24 hours and still had capacity from a full charge. It has a plug so that it can run on mains power ... and charge your iOS device at the same time.
Humm ... let me see which I'd rather have in my bag ... a 2" x 2" thing no heavier than a couple of pencils, that can be used standalone or wirelessly connect to any available wiFi or wired network, or a big ol' access point, power cable, etc. that has to be plugged in directly to a router to provide internet connectivity when needed. No brainer for me.
I've end-of-lifed exactly two access points in 10 years. Both were recycled. My conscience is clean as regards the planet.
I'm not trying to sell anyone on the things, but I like to toss things out there that work well for me in case it fits someone else's use case.
The bigger issue for is is that every time I turn on wifi, things seem to become a whole lot more unstable. That's the main reason I haven't persevered.
What I've got, which I use quite often (eg, currently) is a very old 2nd generation gigabit AirPort Extreme, which can only do 2.4GHz or 5GHz but not both. I bought mine new many years ago when they were new, but I see the things for £15 in CeX now, making it worthless to sell, but very useful to have around.
The only 100% stable connectivity is through wires (and even then cables go bad.)
There was a recent thread about a USB hub with Ethernet port. Dying to try that out, but can't justify the expense ATM.
@wim all good man, just weighing my options.
The Ethernet hub sounds good but how would that work? Would Ableton link recognise this as a valid connection point? I guess it would as long as it is a network right? I'm not too versed with these things. I'll try to find that thread.
@supadom
Found it: https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/20223/multiple-10-100-1000-ethernet-interfaces-for-ipad