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rock, future, funk,soft drum machines

erosseross
in General App Discussion

I am looking to purchase one of these apps. however , I am mostly going to use it to trigger other drum plugins on my desktop. are all of the sequencers the same? or are they each tailored to the samples of each app?

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  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited August 2017

    The sequencers are the exact same if you're programming your own beats. If you are using the included beats, they are more geared to the style pertaining to the title. Future Drummer includes reverses and stutters I think, but those will have no effect on MIDI out.

    Each one has 5 drum outs, and each instrument (kick, snare, hihat, tom 1, tom 2) has three different velocity levels that you can map to different drums/keys. The closed and open hi hat are on the same track, so, for example, you'd have to set a midi note to the normal velocity for your closed hat, and then another note to your open hat for the 'hard' (open hat) velocity. The other instruments' just provide you three different velocity levels.

    There is also a 6th out for the crash cymbal but you cant program it in the sequencer, it will just hit and trigger every 4/8/12/16 bars as you set it.

    I think that covers it.

    Edit: not quite sure Soft Drummer has MIDI out yet, so check on that. The other 3 do for certain.

  • erosseross

    wow t> @oat_phipps said:

    The sequencers are the exact same if you're programming your own beats. If you are using the included beats, they are more geared to the style pertaining to the title. Future Drummer includes reverses and stutters I think, but those will have no effect on MIDI out.

    Each one has 5 drum outs, and each instrument (kick, snare, hihat, tom 1, tom 2) has three different velocity levels that you can map to different drums/keys. The closed and open hi hat are on the same track, so, for example, you'd have to set a midi note to the normal velocity for your closed hat, and then another note to your open hat for the 'hard' (open hat) velocity. The other instruments' just provide you three different velocity levels.

    There is also a 6th out for the crash cymbal but you cant program it in the sequencer, it will just hit and trigger every 4/8/12/16 bars as you set it.

    I think that covers it.

    Edit: not quite sure Soft Drummer has MIDI out yet, so check on that. The other 3 do for certain.

    wow thanks that is exactly the information i was looking for.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    @eross said:
    wow t> @oat_phipps said:

    The sequencers are the exact same if you're programming your own beats. If you are using the included beats, they are more geared to the style pertaining to the title. Future Drummer includes reverses and stutters I think, but those will have no effect on MIDI out.

    Each one has 5 drum outs, and each instrument (kick, snare, hihat, tom 1, tom 2) has three different velocity levels that you can map to different drums/keys. The closed and open hi hat are on the same track, so, for example, you'd have to set a midi note to the normal velocity for your closed hat, and then another note to your open hat for the 'hard' (open hat) velocity. The other instruments' just provide you three different velocity levels.

    There is also a 6th out for the crash cymbal but you cant program it in the sequencer, it will just hit and trigger every 4/8/12/16 bars as you set it.

    I think that covers it.

    Edit: not quite sure Soft Drummer has MIDI out yet, so check on that. The other 3 do for certain.

    wow thanks that is exactly the information i was looking for.

    No prob, once upon a time I was seeking the same info and just had to dive in.

  • dermichldermichl

    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

  • AudioGusAudioGus

    @oat_phipps said:
    The sequencers are the exact same if you're programming your own beats. If you are using the included beats, they are more geared to the style pertaining to the title. Future Drummer includes reverses and stutters I think, but those will have no effect on MIDI out.

    Each one has 5 drum outs, and each instrument (kick, snare, hihat, tom 1, tom 2) has three different velocity levels that you can map to different drums/keys. The closed and open hi hat are on the same track, so, for example, you'd have to set a midi note to the normal velocity for your closed hat, and then another note to your open hat for the 'hard' (open hat) velocity. The other instruments' just provide you three different velocity levels.

    There is also a 6th out for the crash cymbal but you cant program it in the sequencer, it will just hit and trigger every 4/8/12/16 bars as you set it.

    I think that covers it.

    Edit: not quite sure Soft Drummer has MIDI out yet, so check on that. The other 3 do for certain.

    The future drummer stutters work on midi out. They are just fast notes.

  • FrankettiFranketti

    Love them but can't get midi out. A few weeks ago it worked with future drummer to drum session. But now funkdrummers and futuredrummers midi out don' work. What am I doing wrong?

  • erosseross

    @dermichl said:
    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

    are the fills created via algorythm, or do you program them in too?

  • dermichldermichl

    @eross said:

    @dermichl said:
    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

    are the fills created via algorythm, or do you program them in too?

    i'm talking about the built in fills (raising the jamming level) and jamming elements.

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited August 2017

    @eross said:

    @dermichl said:
    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

    are the fills created via algorythm, or do you program them in too?

    There's a 'bars to fill' option (every 4/8/12/16 bars) or you can turn up the jam intensity and get more random fills that way. I only have the funk and rock ones, but I'm not too keen on them because the fills are a) ridiculously over the top in both, and b) the patterns/jamming NEVER use the toms (in the rock one for example, I think it is literally 2 or 3 patterns out of 300+ that have toms). I was disappointed because I can program a kick snare and hihat all damn day. I was looking for interesting fills and, ya know...toms.

    A lot of people swear by these apps, but I found them cheesy.

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]
    edited August 2017

    @Franketti said:
    Love them but can't get midi out. A few weeks ago it worked with future drummer to drum session. But now funkdrummers and futuredrummers midi out don' work. What am I doing wrong?

    Keep midi out option on future drummer and not on the destination and it should works (sometimes it crashes). One thing I love with Luis Martinez apps is the quality of the sample. Drum session has bad samples imo for example compared to Rock DM or funk drummer ...

  • erosseross

    @oat_phipps said:

    @eross said:

    @dermichl said:
    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

    are the fills created via algorythm, or do you program them in too?

    There's a 'bars to fill' option (every 4/8/12/16 bars) or you can turn up the jam intensity and get more random fills that way. I only have the funk and rock ones, but I'm not too keen on them because the fills are a) ridiculously over the top in both, and b) the patterns/jamming NEVER use the toms (in the rock one for example, I think it is literally 2 or 3 patterns out of 300+ that have toms). I was disappointed because I can program a kick snare and hihat all damn day. I was looking for interesting fills and, ya know...toms.

    A lot of people swear by these apps, but I found them cheesy.

    interesting.... can you program toms and other stuff in the sequencer? that mainly what i'm looking for, and i like the pad system of triggering parts to "play" out a whole song. cool idea
    which is better, funk or rock?

  • hisdudenesshisdudeness

    I have these apps including braziian and Afro.... funk drummer is the best sounding .. and great for a quick jam.:. soft drummer is not soft.. if you are looking for some funky midi work... these are not the apps .. you will always find a bug or two...

  • kobamotokobamoto

    what apps do you recommend?

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps
    edited August 2017

    @eross said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @eross said:

    @dermichl said:
    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

    are the fills created via algorythm, or do you program them in too?

    There's a 'bars to fill' option (every 4/8/12/16 bars) or you can turn up the jam intensity and get more random fills that way. I only have the funk and rock ones, but I'm not too keen on them because the fills are a) ridiculously over the top in both, and b) the patterns/jamming NEVER use the toms (in the rock one for example, I think it is literally 2 or 3 patterns out of 300+ that have toms). I was disappointed because I can program a kick snare and hihat all damn day. I was looking for interesting fills and, ya know...toms.

    A lot of people swear by these apps, but I found them cheesy.

    interesting.... can you program toms and other stuff in the sequencer? that mainly what i'm looking for, and i like the pad system of triggering parts to "play" out a whole song. cool idea
    which is better, funk or rock?

    Yeah you can definitely still program all the toms you want. Personally, I like the funk one much better. The in-app sounds are better, and much more interesting patterns. The rock is pretty much straight ahead rock with most of the patterns being based off of recreated 90s hits.

    Despite my cheesy condemnation earlier, I do still enjoy running the funk one to ruismaker every once in a while.

    Oh, and last I checked, the rock one crashes every time if you try to save your MIDI map. It will keep what you had next time it opens, but you can't save and bounce easily between maps.

  • hisdudenesshisdudeness

    @kobamoto said:
    what apps do you recommend?

    I recommend importing free Midi drum grooves and then use a plugin which can import this.

    e.g beatbuddy has all the midi drum grooves available for free

    with apps you always find something missing

  • [Deleted User][Deleted User]

    Was there any particular changes you had to do to the notes setup in Funk Drummer?

    @oat_phipps said:

    @eross said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @eross said:

    @dermichl said:
    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

    are the fills created via algorythm, or do you program them in too?

    There's a 'bars to fill' option (every 4/8/12/16 bars) or you can turn up the jam intensity and get more random fills that way. I only have the funk and rock ones, but I'm not too keen on them because the fills are a) ridiculously over the top in both, and b) the patterns/jamming NEVER use the toms (in the rock one for example, I think it is literally 2 or 3 patterns out of 300+ that have toms). I was disappointed because I can program a kick snare and hihat all damn day. I was looking for interesting fills and, ya know...toms.

    A lot of people swear by these apps, but I found them cheesy.

    interesting.... can you program toms and other stuff in the sequencer? that mainly what i'm looking for, and i like the pad system of triggering parts to "play" out a whole song. cool idea
    which is better, funk or rock?

    Yeah you can definitely still program all the toms you want. Personally, I like the funk one much better. The in-app sounds are better, and much more interesting patterns. The rock is pretty much straight ahead rock with most of the patterns being based off of recreated 90s hits.

    Despite my cheesy condemnation earlier, I do still enjoy running the funk one to ruismaker every once in a while.

    Oh, and last I checked, the rock one crashes every time if you try to save your MIDI map. It will keep what you had next time it opens, but you can't save and bounce easily between maps.

  • erosseross

    cool i think i'm leaning toward funky drummer now

  • oat_phippsoat_phipps

    @MusicMan4Christ said:
    Was there any particular changes you had to do to the notes setup in Funk Drummer?

    @oat_phipps said:

    @eross said:

    @oat_phipps said:

    @eross said:

    @dermichl said:
    to my ears the jamming and the way fills are played are different matching the app title...

    are the fills created via algorythm, or do you program them in too?

    There's a 'bars to fill' option (every 4/8/12/16 bars) or you can turn up the jam intensity and get more random fills that way. I only have the funk and rock ones, but I'm not too keen on them because the fills are a) ridiculously over the top in both, and b) the patterns/jamming NEVER use the toms (in the rock one for example, I think it is literally 2 or 3 patterns out of 300+ that have toms). I was disappointed because I can program a kick snare and hihat all damn day. I was looking for interesting fills and, ya know...toms.

    A lot of people swear by these apps, but I found them cheesy.

    interesting.... can you program toms and other stuff in the sequencer? that mainly what i'm looking for, and i like the pad system of triggering parts to "play" out a whole song. cool idea
    which is better, funk or rock?

    Yeah you can definitely still program all the toms you want. Personally, I like the funk one much better. The in-app sounds are better, and much more interesting patterns. The rock is pretty much straight ahead rock with most of the patterns being based off of recreated 90s hits.

    Despite my cheesy condemnation earlier, I do still enjoy running the funk one to ruismaker every once in a while.

    Oh, and last I checked, the rock one crashes every time if you try to save your MIDI map. It will keep what you had next time it opens, but you can't save and bounce easily between maps.

    I just used Ruismakers black keys mapping, I didn't try the Gm standard.

  • ProppaProppa

    Future Drummer iPhone version is still suffering the distorted kick bug here and thus unusable which is Such a shame as the app is so damn good. I've written Luis with no response. Anyone have any intel on this?

  • gosnotegosnote

    Copying my post from the other LM drum app topic, if any of you guys happen to know:

    I'm looking to use Funk Drummer as a sound module / midi in.
    I'm wondering, when triggering the sounds are the round robin samples used in this mode as well? To me it sounds like they aren't. There are to my understanding only two velocity layers for each hit, so utilizing the round robins would bring some dynamics to my playing, since the sample amplitudes aren't linked to midi velocity. I ended up sampling a kit to BM3 in order to get some dynamics to the individual hits and also set up choke groups for e.g. hihats.

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