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OT: BT Ignore crime
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Anyone in the UK who has been plagued by fuckwits pretending there is something wrong with your computer may like to know how BT are aiding these, usually Indian, imposters.
I have a gizmo that cuts out international calls and other numbers I specify. This has cut down on the above a lot, but can't stop calls from individual British based numbers in general, for obvious reasons. So criminals with access to such numbers can still operate.
According to a source in telecoms, the criminals get numbers via a BT list of recently decommissioned numbers, such as a shop that has closed, but which are still active until BT gets around to blocking them. Now, you would think that. BT would welcome info as to which numbers were being used to try and con innocent people. But no...
I pay for my phone as part of my ISP deal, and technical am not a BT customer. Even though all my calls and Net activity go through lines owned by BT and rented to my ISP. However, as I am not directly paying BT they refuse point blank to take down info concerning what numbers are being used for illegal purposes. Like, they just don't give a shit. As for my otherwise excellent ISP, they insist they can do nothing - no blocking of numbers, or investigation as to how the criminals got my supposedly ex-directory number - unless it becomes a police matter. Obviously, the UK police care even less than BT, and so the calls continue.
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"I'm calling from Microsoft, there is an error with your computer....."
I usually waste 5-10 mins of their time acting clueless, keeps me vaguely entertained
I quite enjoy those, I put it on speaker while I work, making the odd 'oh', or 'hmmm' and keep them talking as long as possible, until I either reveal I use a Mac, or scream 'FUCK OFF AND DIE MOTHERFUCKER' into the phone. Or worse still, play them some nice and loud Horse Gas. Haven't had any for years now.
I had one of those a long time ago. Convincing English accented bloke, who was well rehearsed. Happily, he got me on a day where I was able to stay cool enough to lead him on a bit. Ending after about 10 minutes by saying, "Oh, I'm sorry. I thought I had a computer, but it's actually a microwave oven."
He was not pleased.
There's disturbingly few things I love more than playing around with scammers/solicitors.
Before the gizmo I mentioned, I did once ask a fellow if he was a good Hindu, which seemed to phase him. Then followed up by asking what lying to people for a living would do to his karma. The phone went dead.
My favorite way of dealing with telemarketers:
Zen you know this is an Indian website right
Solicitors, always think they're so smart. One time, when my parents were still around, they employed a local firm to look into a land issue. First agreeing in writing what this would cost, and that anything beyond that would also have to be agreed, in writing. Naturally, these robbers sent a bill that was more than triple what my mum and dad were expecting. Which at £110 ph was a lot. At the time, mum had just got over a brush with breast cancer, so it was important that she had no more stress. The bill was paid.
Not happy, I fought the case secretly, getting endless bullshit from the law firm, always insisting they were in the right and talking down to me at every opportunity. Next step, the Office for the Supervision of Solicitors. They were very interested, but said it could be some weeks before my case was read. In due course I got a call from someone sounding posher than the Queen, telling me I had a solid case, and would I like him to proceed. Yes please, I said.
Within 24 hours I had an hysterical letter from the head of the law firm who'd ripped off my parents, saying how he never wanted to hear from me again, and including a cheque not just for what I'd asked to be refunded, but for every penny my parents had paid the firm! Clearly, the governing body had told them in politer terms that they were fucked if they didn't sort it out to my satisfaction, PDQ.
Presenting the cheque to mum and dad I said, "I love the smell of burning lawyer in the morning."
That is brilliant.
As long as they don't phone me up, we'll get along marvellously.
When my littlest was small I would let him talk to them. It could go on quite a while sometimes.
That's a good idea - Monzo Jnr has a combo of ADHD and Aspergers - I'll stick him on next time!
but you do know audiobus is a good hindu site right
I like to keep them going for a while as well. After a while I will answer one of their 'what can you see on the screen now?' Questions with- 'Mmmm, I'm not quite sure what this means- can I spell it out for you? Ok - here we go....'t-h-i-s-i-s-a-s-c-a-m........ then ask them- 'what does that mean?'
LOVE.
The best.
Funny timing. I just cleaned up my in-laws' PC after a "Microsoft" scammer took in my father in law. The credit card company recognized the $700 charge as suspicious and didn't pay it, but they got him for $90 off of his ATM card. Meanwhile they had an hour of free reign on the PC while keeping him on the phone in which to scrounge for whatever information they could make use of. Fortunately there probably isn't much.
They even tricked my sister, who knows better, momentarily until it dawned on her and she unplugged the PC.
They're very good at what they do.
Yeah, I was offered a free change to a new number. But the one I have I can remember.
That number is unlisted, but we think that BT sells numbers from before they become unlisted, to legitimate business....and these lists fall into the wrong hands.
It should be a simple process to block numbers on a landline or mobile, the fact it isn't shows just how little providers care about their customers. Or how much money they're making from cold callers.
Yes. My ISP says they can't block the rogue numbers, and it is down to BT, who won't even take note of the numbers being used for criminal activity, because I'm not a direct customer. Whether that constitutes aiding and abetting, is an interesting legal point.
Even if it does they'll get away with it, these fuckers always do.
You can never win.
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Never stopped me trying.
In my 20's I did once get a few grand out of the Arts Council, by bluffing and sounding professional, touting an early multimedia project. Along with my co-conspirators, the singer with a band and a comic book artist, we had the possibility of getting our hands on £100,000. But, the catch was we had to really come up with the goods, plus ten grand of our own, to prove we're were serious. Still a lot of money today, an astronomical amount for us back then. The plan fell over when the others proved lazy bastards more interested in the singer's bong than hitting the big time.