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Anyone think Borderlands is overrated?
Yeah it's different and nifty at first, but after that initial "wow" it seems to be a bit one-dimensional musically. A lot of the stuff sounds the same - and I'm not just talking about my own stuff but virtually everything I see on YouTube of it.
Prove me wrong. Share a video or track that shows me the light.
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I agree, but I say the same about any synth that is centred around a granular effect.
I understand. I feel the same way about TC-11. Very cool for what it does, but not your everyday workorse for certain. I think such apps should be priced accordingly.
The reason these tracks sound the same is because everyone is using Borderlands the same - as the main source of a track rather than one of many sources compiled in a DAW for extra polish.
I don't think it's over-rated, it certainly does some amazing stuff and makes good use of the touch screen interface. But I never was able to really get anything out of it I wanted to use in a song either. Fun, but just not my thing I guess.
Overrated by whom, and in what way?
Could be a wonderful thing with some new love from the dev.
This!
That's the crux. The variation isn't wide enough for everyday use, but it's very fun to play with. Definitely more appealing to tool around with than iDensity, but far more limited.
I'm not going to pass judgment one way or another but I will say this:
I love the concept of it and as a result I've tried to include Borderlands in various setups MANY times. Every single time, Samplr has been subbed into the role in pretty short order.
Just last week I tried to set it up again and had something I was looking forward to playing with, but at the last second there was some bug with audio input and all being recorded in was a mangled mess. Samplr stepped into the breach.
Ability to tempo lock the grain speed and chromatic scale lock the pitch change would add a bit more practical application to it. I guess the nodes could be put in 'MIDI mode' and allocated note values to allow various custom 'instruments' to be built using Borderlands surfaces. Could have different 'snapshots' of node locations which are also switchable by note numbers.
Am just thinking of ways the innovative interface could be utilised for a little more practical depth.
No way.
It does immediate creative things that nothing else does.
Its in my top 10 ,
but I rarely work with "songs" these days.
I've had killer results on film, installations, theatre pieces, and albums.
But an update would be very much appreciated
I gotta disagree. Personally it's been a wildly creative avenue in my stash. Using it to create vocal pads from things that are barely vocals to begin with has probably been what I've used it for the most. But there have been countless other uses that have generated content I would've had no idea how to create in any other app or with any other process. I do think it has some faults, of course, but definitely not overrated in this room.
I like it. Not sure i would say over rated. It Can be very niche.
Here is a soundscape I did with it.
Agree with this. Also like/agree with @gmslayton's use of the word niche....
I have built a drum sequencer
It's a great tool. I used it a lot and got a lot out of it. Will use it more if it gets iSO11 Files support (fingers crossed).
I do look forward to it getting Link and Chromatic scale (both of which were teased on Facebook)... hope it turns out to be more than a tease anyway.
second that, but believe it''s abandonware
2.5 years since the last update, with acknowledged issues still outstanding; but, it does go on sale, so it's not abandoned. Rather, it's an old cow that gets ignored and occasionally milked.
The developer has said update is coming some day. But he is slow to update. Ableton Link was said to be added
Mr Jakob Haq did some spendiforously melodic things with it on YouTube a while ago.
I can't link right now as on mobile.
I think it rewards some leftfield thought to avoid just sounding like a bunch of ... grains.
IPulsaret, Stria & iDensity rule. Had another play today just to confirm. Awesome using them together. Got incredible stuff driving Stria & IPulsaret with Refraktions.
"Whale Farts"? Homie Puh-Lease!
Tis quite cool, but a different beast really.
Part of the conversation.
Toast.
Is this really good subject?
Trying to rally someone behind a personal opinion, most likely caused by your own impotence to use the tools you are given.
Very lame!
Is it any better to add negativity by way of an implicit insult?
The OP seems open to being convinced that it could be used for more despite his firm opinion. Hence his challenge.
Nothing wrong with seeking new ideas from other people in hopes of getting more value out of something you paid for (or ya know, just in general).
And as far as my input, I'd say it is obviously limited but very good at what it does. I echo the above poster in the sentiment that pretty much no one app is going to magically carry all your tracks for you. The inclusion of something like this on a track in a mix, however, could make a recording very interesting.
Cheers for the iPulsaret recommendations. I'll probably check it out in the future, although my interest in Borderlands was the interface so it's a very different thing to me in practical terms.