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ha , though my 808 is gone I still have about 10 Zip disk and the dreaded disk error nightmare that came with them, but people still ask me about 808 beats to this day. loved that thing
I was just playing with my SP-404sx and then I saw this thread
I love iOS but playing with dedicated hardware it’s another thing.
Personally I prefer using apps as food for (hardware) samplers.
currently I feel the same way, incredible sample fodder and sound module but it's oh so close in several apps...
I hope Playground, Samplr, and a few others will change this in the near to even more near future.
Since a sp555 compact flash error 45’ before a gig made me need to reload all the samples with my laptop in a corner... I’m not so sure about it. Said that I miss sometimes its fx unit and probably could be a great companion iPad based setup. For its regular price second hand around my area (400 and above) there are better options IMHO. Sp404 is even more expensive or almost 350€ the cheapest.
Have you tried having lining up several Abu Dhabi's in a row in Gadget with a single different sample in each one- giving all the parameter manipulation and effects etc to each sample.
This is the kind of post that I read when I wonder... "SHould I sell my SP-404sx, which hasn't been receiving it's deserved love"
Then I realize I would regret selling it
lol
I just gotta be better with it
I still have my SP-404 but mostly use NanoStudio as a replacement since quite a while.
The SP is more like a preset loop player now.
What I always wanted is quick and easy sampling, cutting, reverse playback and, something the Sp-404 cannot do, changing the pitch of samples!
TRG16 in NS does all this well. And editing on the piano roll is much, much better than on the SP. Bummer that NS cannot sync with anything.
Latency is low enough on that old iPad 1. If you want high-end modulated FX then SugarBytes Turnado might be the best, or flux:fx.
I personally prefer my Korg Kaoss Pad 2, just more immediate and faster to use.
I would say that with the KP2, I don't really miss the SP404 FX - no exact replacement but good enough for all kinds of real life situations, and the KP2 can do other FX the SP404 could only dream of.
The overall quality of the Kaoss Pad’s fx it’s not that great though imo.
Good enough for live and spontaneous jamming imho.
I'm a big Kaoss pad fan as well- esp the KP3. Beardyman certainly got many a groovy tune out of them.
Funny you should say that. I'm eyeing up Kaoss pad quad as a vocal processor
Maybe Triqtraq or Werkbench?
Sorry to veer the thread away from the original question, but there seems to be a lot of SP-*** experts in this this thread.
My question is regarding why some SP models were sold through the Roland brand and some through the Boss brand. I realize they are the same company and Roland stuff generally better quality and more expensive. Were there 2 separate SP lines?
I bought a Boss SP-505 soon after they came out. I always thought it sounded like garbage and the sample processing time was frustratingly slow. But it was a sampler with tons of sample time since I had the 128MB card in it. Now I see a lot of praise for these devices on this thread, but I think it must be for the Roland models or something. I did notice a Roland SP-404 is being sold for more than a Boss SP-505 on Ebay, but I am not sure why that is.
****> @CracklePot said:
303 and 505 were BOSS, the rest were Roland branded, but all part of the same line and all operating on the same general paradigm and with similar features (though the 505 is a major outlier in some ways. ) 505 is a lot older than 404 and uses smartmedia and is slower and more lofi than the 404. 505 is basically the 303 engine with a screen, sample chopping and the ability to pitch a sample across the pads (which sounded pretty strange since the samples were lofi and it stretched them all to preserve time)
I really like the 505, by the way. I think the immediacy of the line is what gets people excited about them. Especially the ones with minimal displays.
@legsmechanical Thanks for helping to clear that up for me. At the time I bought it because a friend of mine had just got one and we were messing with it and it was so cool. I couldn't complain about the price either because I was used to samplers costing more like $1000 and up back then.
All of my previous experience with sampling was on PC back then. So that is why I found it so dreadfully slow. And as you pointed out, this thing is somewhat lo-fi compared to what came later, so that explains my confusion there.
I still have it, but haven't looked at it in years. I think I will bust it out and check out some of those FX again. I recall the live FX being one of the highlights for me.
Did you considered using voice transformer fx?
You mean this one?
I've never sold it, it's a fun box that will even impress children
That or the fx included into the sp404... I had sp555 and used it for beatboxing but also for fake scratching so it could realtime repitch of your samples and chops.
Also bpm editing can offer repitching. I wasn’t aware of it over the time I had it so it’s one of these different to “slicing variphrase but variphrase stretching” features it seems missed from sp606 but not really, just different approach (with mark buttons for chopping)
Do you know what I’m pointing?
I’m going to buy an Sp555 once again due this thread, shit!
I need to look into vt3 or similar once again. I wondered the possibility of using the iPhone as fx unit but as time goes I’m more and more sure about external fx unit.
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Racks my brain with the technology that would we should be able to be using today. Can't sleep some nights. Haha. I sure miss the 303. Got the Toraiz and the MPC Live, but with the availability of MP3 and flash drives I just don't get it. And don't have the capital to have the initial app started to be able to have proper functionality on the face of a device.
I'll take one of each, please and thank you.