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Must ask a dense question.. BM3 and Zeeon...
Literally just downloaded Zeeon,.
It as a neat little step sequencer in the middle, but when trying to get this into BM3 as an AU, BM3 chops off the sequencer part?
How do I record my pattern into BM3?
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Sadly the step sequencer only works in standalone mode, not AU. It's Zeeon, not BM3. AUs don't output midi (yet) so it wouldn't be useful for recording notes.
Oh man what a serious bummer
Sequencer isn’t supported in AU mode. And I don’t know of a way to record the Zeeon sequence other than recording it to another device.
Can you just recreate your sequence in BM3 via its internal sequencer.
I really just want to record the audio of the pattern.. as an audio track, then I can chop it up in BM3, as you say I could recreate this in BM3, but I love the speed of making, ever so slightly, different grooves with that sequencer, really quickly.. BM3 can be a bit of a ball-ache..
Yeah. Zeeon doesn’t have IAAsupport. It’s either stand alone or AU so you’ll have to route Audio via cable to another recording device as far as I can tell...if you want to record from it’s sequencer.
Just remap the keys in BM3...and save yourself a headache. It’s only 16 steps
Haha.. thats the snail workflow I’m getting with BM3
rebuild it as a pattern in bm3 - you have all the notes from the zeeon sequencer and see how close you can get.
Hahah. You’ll get faster the more you use it
Ok.. just have to try in BM3.. that’s if, I don’t die of old age by the time this 3.5 minute tune is done...
I’m actually massively disappointed with this synth.. yes, it sounds great and has some neat features, but why the fuck would you build a capable synth with no apparent means of recording or exporting your sequences to a DAW? Yes, I know it’s an AU but not being able to record that sequencer is a massive oversight.
Man I wish Beepstreet hadn't released a standalone at all considering they're of the mind that AU is the best bet for the future and have explained that philosophy. That sequencer isn't the best thing in the world, and far from the best thing about the synth. Get MIDIsteps for $5 and boom, you have the Zeeon sequencer and more for every synth you own. It's as simple as the Zeeon sequencer if you want it to be, with plenty of steroidal options.
Exactly. There are (likely) many options out there to fill the roll of replacing Zeeon’s sequencer. Not that big of a deal. Hardly enough to warrant “massive disappointment” IMO...considering how amazing the most important aspects of Zeeon actually are.
I don’t have midisteps. Recommended?
Absolutely!
Recommended if you have Modstep and are weighing getting Xequence?
IPad only but oh God yes. It works as a fantastic 4 track sequencer that can send ab3 midi or host aux inside itself. Pair it with an ableton link enabled drum app and you're in jam city. I just wish you could chain sequences in it. Or maybe I just haven't figured out how to do it.
Gotta agree with everyone here. Sequencer shouldn't be a dealbreaker and midiSTEPs is definitely a must. You can load four zeeon AUs and sequence the sh*t out of them.
Did I mention it can send midi cc?
BeepStreet seem to have a knack for making great sequencers and has no fear to experiment with new ideas. Impaktor, Sunrizer, Zeeon, isequence.
They all are really useful tools but seems like they're merely added as a quirky extra.
I'd absolutely love Impaktor's sequencer to get link and midi control but Ive kind of added it to the dustbin of history.
I think, other than this being seen as servicing of an old app it also presents an issue of droves of users complaining about their sync scenarios not working etc.
Looks like Mr Beep is more concerned with beeps than clicks. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
midiSTEPs is a wonderful little tool for sequencing directly in either itself, AUM or AB3.
Must have if you are a midi nerd
Here’s a quick example of what midiSTEPs allows you to do
4midi channels you can manually enter your per step notes
And a little track with 3 instances of Zeeon and 1 Ripplemaker and Phosphor duped on Channel 2for some additional depth.
Really neat, Echo. My question: can you record the midi "performance"? You have these patterns within midisteps, and AUM can record the audio. But can anything record the midi that you are playing? Does my question make sense?
No, it does not capture a midi performance. You must enter information into each step (note, chord, rest).
No, I get that part. It's my fault for being unclear.
Here's my hope.
You load up four synths in midisteps. They are hosted in AUM.
You launch patterns within midisteps, effectively performing a song. AUM can record the audio stems of that performance.
Is there anyway to then record the midi notes from midisteps? Can you export the midi from midisteps?
I am pretty sure you can send midi out of Midisteps into BM3 or Cubasis and record the results in BM3 or Cubasis for editing and playback of their own internaly hosted AUs. I do this with Chordflow which i absolutely love. If you want to sequence automated chord progessions check out Chordflow as well. It's magic.
@ExAsperis99 Yes, you can record the outgoing midi. I've done it. No midi export that I recall.
That is excellent news. I've always loved the quick sessions you can set up in AUM, and the only thing I ever thought was missing was midi. So you got your audio tracks recording in AUM and you are sending the midi from misisteps into, what, cubasis?
@ExAsperis99 - it has been awhile since I tried this, but I just successfully recorded midi in Cubasis from MidiSTEPs hosted in AUM. MidiSTEPs >AUM>Cubasis. I assume that there are some different configurations that could support the recording of this midi info, but this definitely works. Haven’t tried BM3 as of yet, but I suppose it could work with some futzing around.