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Pedalboard idea recorder. Ideas?

I want a pedal or box that can record the guitar signal coming out of my pedalboard, and easily add it to my iPad. The goal is a folder of ideas in AudioShare.

I have a TC Electronic Wiretap Riff Recorder, which sits at the end of my pedalboard. It records great, but the Bluetooth transfer using the app almost never works.

Is there something similar, only that works?

Or, I could dust off an old 1st-gen iPad mini, but I don't know how to put it in the signal path without affecting the analog signal.

Suggestions?

Comments

  • I guess I could put an audio interface in a true-bypass loop and hook it up to an old iPad.

    Or, perhaps I could replace my ditto X2 looper with something that can take an SD card.

  • Don't need to true bypass the audio interface, as long as it is after a buffered pedal (like boss, digitech, ibanez, danelectro), or a pedal that is on. The electronics in the pedals have a low output impedance, so you can safely split the output to a couple things, like an audio interface and an amp, with no ill interactions to the tone of the guitar.

    I'd just get a 1/4" splitter cable, and split to your interface. If your amp has an effects loop that you don't use, you could use the effects send, as a line out, to your interface. Alternately if the amp has a line out, you can use that.

  • Ah, my amp has two inputs, which are linked. I guess I could use the spare one as an output.

  • edited October 2017

    then you capture the raw guitar signal, if you want the fx included the position of the Wiretap applies.
    But if your pedal board has mono (not stereo) output you could capture both with a 2 channel interface and set each channel to it's own track.

    I'd retire the Wiretap and use the Mini with Multitrack DAW (Harmonic Dog) as a recorder.
    The app is very simple and convenient to handle live tracking, setting loop and punch points, overdub on multiple tracks etc. Never missed a looper pedal if the iPad is mounted to a mic stand or similiar in reach while playing guitar - it's just not audience/live compatible, but perfect for studio appliances.
    MTD looks humble, would even run on an iPad one, but it's got an excellent sound engine and is really powerful under the hood. Solid and efficient.

  • That sounds like overkill. I can already hook up to my iPad, in which case I’d use GarageBand or Looperverse. What I’m after is something always ready, so I can quickly capture an idea to AudioShare, or on another device that is easy to transfer to AudioShare.

    And I agree on MTD. It really is great.

  • @mistercharlie said:
    That sounds like overkill. I can already hook up to my iPad, in which case I’d use GarageBand or Looperverse. What I’m after is something always ready, so I can quickly capture an idea to AudioShare, or on another device that is easy to transfer to AudioShare.

    I'm looking for the same thing.

  • The wiretap is almost perfect — it records a very good signal before it hits the amp, so it can be re-amped if you like. It’s just the iOS app for transfer is terrible.

  • no overkill at all - just have MTD (which you obviously own) at the end of the chain record in a loop of whatever size (1, 5, 10 minutes) permanently.
    It will always jump back to the start and overdub the track.
    If a 'hey that was cool' enters your mind you can stop it, mark the section and copy it to a muted track.
    Or loop that section and elaborate more on a different track, whatever comes to mind.
    You may even revert the last take(s), afaik it keeps everything on disk until you clean up.

    At the end of the session export the collection track to Audioshare and snip out the parts there - it's easy with some silence in between the parts.

  • That’s an excellent idea.

  • I have a potential solution. I figured that if I could run a long cable around the room, from my pedals/amp to my desk where the iPad and USB audio interface sit, I could just record on the iPad whenever I wanted.

    That long cable run isn't good for guitar signals, though, so I wondered about putting a DI box on the pedalboard and running a balanced XLR mic cable to the desk.

    I've settled on Eventide's Mixing Link. I can have it permanently sat on my pedalboard, feeding a balanced signal to a long cable that I can run around the edges of the floor (I like things tidy). The cable will always be hooked up to the little USB interface on my desk. Whenever I'm playing, I usually have the iPad on the desk anyway, so now all I have to do is hit record.

    Bonus! I have a midi foot pedal hooked up to the iPad too (the midi board and the audio interface are connected to a USB hub). That means I can trigger a recording any time, just by hitting a foot switch.

    The Mixing Link looks amazing. It's a DI box, but also a mic preamp, an effect-loop mixer, a re-amper, and a headphone amp. It costs the same a a good DI box from Radial, but does a ton more. I can even plug a mic in direct if I want to mic my amp, without having to run another cable to the desk. They're also impossible to find used, which is a good sign as to their usefulness.

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