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about scales and modes ?
I'm not sure if I can ask this question clearly but... In my songs, I improvise some notes til I like the sound, but the notes often sound like an exotic mode or scale. I want to apply the same scale/mode to other synths by quantizing them to it. When I use the reverse scale mode finder online, it finds a slew of different scales and modes which really don't quite fit and I end up not finding something that will work. Is there any app that detects scales/modes and is fairly accurate?
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Try Modstep. You can tell it to only display notes that you’ve already used on the piano roll, which should automatically limit you to the selections you’ve previously made! Introduce new ones later by switching in and out of chromatic mode and ‘feeling around’ with your ears, as you’ve been doing.
I think you’ll need some broader knowledge of musical theory if you want to go the "exact" way, like modal interchange, micro tuning, dodecaphony to name some harmony random names. Then there also are relationships between those in time and melody(counterpoint) which probably when going freehand you instinctively trigger but, as soon as you try to rationalize these things without enough proper tools/skills it will sound rigid/wrong/different
wow, thanks. seems like very useful advice.
I do have that app (and never used it cause of perceived complexity). I'll give it a go. thanks!
I hasn't been updated in a couple of years, but you might like ScaleGen, too.
http://audiob.us/get/830/ScaleGen
ScaleGen is cool but it doesn't return the mode or scale when you designate the notes you want. I also have Tessitura Pro and it does show all the modes for given notes. In my case it came up with 2 possibilities and the Phrygian mode was exact! It doesn't give me the key however. but I was able to use the reverse key finder online to get the key (C). So now I know. C Phrygian. Doesn't seem like the most efficient way to go about it.
How are you designating/inputting the notes?
I click them on in the interface keyboard in the main view.
Guitar Toolkit allows you to specify a key, input notes, and will name the scale. It doesn’t support midi in though, so you would need to input notes on the iPad screen.
o great! I have that app too. Thanks!
The other great thing is that once you have a scale, you can view matching chords to go with it.
nice!
Just published a short video to demo Guitar Toolkit. Once you have picked matching chords, you can throw the ones you desire into a chord sheet and then arrange them however you want, including putting them into different sections (chorus, bridge, verse, etc.), and even change the guitar and amp modelling used.
Had no idea it could do this. Thanks a ton!
@gkillmaster - Gladly. It is what makes the app more than just a practice in theory for me.
do I need to purchase the IAP + (plus) version to get the custom chords sheets you are showing?
@gkillmaster - yes
Post the pitch collection you want identified and we can help you ITT. Giving us the main bass note will make identification easier.
base note C: C, C#, D#, F, G, G# and A#
Tessitura tells me this is C Phrygian.
Tessitura is an app? It is indeed C Phrygian, which is the notes of the Ab major scale played over a C bass.
Yes, IOS and Mac. That is interesting cause my Hornet SongKey Mk II vst plugin detected it as Ab Maj!
It's useful to know the equivalent names, in case an app you want to use only has one name for it. That way you can use the Ab major scale on, say, Groovebox, slap a C bass under it with a different app, and have a C phrygian sound. It's also Raag Bhairavi in Hindustani music (but not Raag Bhairav, which is a different scale). I don't know what they call it in Carnatic music.