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WHICH TO BUY - AKAI MPK MINI 2 vs ARTURIA MINILAB 2

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  • supadomsupadom

    @ToMess said:

    @supadom said:

    @ToMess said:

    @supadom said:

    @ToMess said:

    @iamspoon said:

    @ToMess said:
    Mpk is so plasticky and basically cheap china trash that i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for. Only reason why people buy these is the marketing aimed at people who never used anything else and thus dont know about anything better and therefore will happily praise it

    Great post!
    Full marks for arrogance and ignorance... well done.

    Thanks :) Or was this sarcasm and its not actually plasticky made in china for cheap?

    Btw here is similar controller to mpk mini, which seems like very similar build quality, but its almost half the price, because it doesent have the akai logo. I wouldnt be very surprised if they came from the same factory
    https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/MINI-portable-25-keys-keyboard-and_60405640442.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.69.69cbc0f4AsYI6X

    And the reason i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for it is because i see better midi keyboards for as low as 20€ used quite often

    Dude:

    1. Vast majority of midi controllers are made in China, the crackly and the fluffy ones.
    2. People have their reasons for choosing one controller over another. It ain’t necessarily out of ignorance but priorities other than yours.
    3. Your €20 might look like and come from the same factory as mpk mini but you might have to write the software to run it yourself.

    1. Yes, and this particular one represents the lower end of china quality when it comes to midi controllers.

    2. I know, i never said that no one should buy it. I said that i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for it. Read

    3. Look, here is a full sized 49 key midi keyboard for 10 pounds https://www.gumtree.com/p/audio-midi-controllers/m-audio-midi-keyboard-controller/1272732323 . Here is another same keyboard for same price, so the price isnt something special https://www.gumtree.com/p/audio-midi-controllers/m-audio-keystation/1272775852 . They doesent require any programs, and i would much rather take this than mpk mini.

    I think its just silly that people praise a product as very good etc, when it clearly is not a very good controller. And everyone who has used a very good controller, can instantly notice that mpk mini is not a really nice controller. Sure its cheap, and the low price of it shows in its quality. And people returning these because they were simply too low quality and paying a bit more and getting a lot better quality and being happy with that new product is a clear evidence of this.

    Again im not saying that some people wont like these. Im saying that when people say that this is a very good controller etc, think whether or not that person actually knows what is a very good controller..

    I think MPK mini mk1 was my first mini controller. Ever since then I tried to upgrade it with Novation launchkey mini but had power issues (it was a fault of non genuine cck then) and I didn't like the tiny pads.

    Then I got m-audio air whatever. I didn't like the shiny smudgy looks and was a bit large.

    Then I tried reloop keyfadr but the software was pc only.

    After that I bought minilab mk1 but as soon as I got it out of the box the faux wood cheeks fell off. Then I had some software issues so returned with the excuse of the cheeks.

    Then minilab mk2 came out so I got it from the local shop and absolutely loved it as it had it all but... I started having stuck notes in sunrizer which was my synth app for live use. I tried all sorts including updating firmware, reinstalling apps and trying another unit. No go.

    So, there. Not for not knowing any better but simply because all the 'better' units out there didn't deliver. Even if I'd kept minilab I'd be missing finite knobs on Akai. Yes, they're cheap and cheerful yet work better for me.

    Personally i would rather have few stuck notes every now and then if it meant better build quality, since i dont play live gigs. And if i were to play live, i would use something else than one of the cheapest mini keys.

    You see, you'd rather live with a few stuck notes and have a otherwise solid feeling product. For me the stuck notes are absolute party killer.

    Apart from mushy keys and 'cheap chinese' looks the board scores high on all fronts. Never let me down despite a lot of abuse. I had 2 of them at one point :pensive:

    @ToMess said:

    @supadom said:

    @ToMess said:

    @supadom said:

    @ToMess said:

    @supadom said:

    @ToMess said:

    @iamspoon said:

    @ToMess said:
    Mpk is so plasticky and basically cheap china trash that i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for. Only reason why people buy these is the marketing aimed at people who never used anything else and thus dont know about anything better and therefore will happily praise it

    Great post!
    Full marks for arrogance and ignorance... well done.

    Thanks :) Or was this sarcasm and its not actually plasticky made in china for cheap?

    Btw here is similar controller to mpk mini, which seems like very similar build quality, but its almost half the price, because it doesent have the akai logo. I wouldnt be very surprised if they came from the same factory
    https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/MINI-portable-25-keys-keyboard-and_60405640442.html?spm=a2700.7724838.2017115.69.69cbc0f4AsYI6X

    And the reason i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for it is because i see better midi keyboards for as low as 20€ used quite often

    Dude:

    1. Vast majority of midi controllers are made in China, the crackly and the fluffy ones.
    2. People have their reasons for choosing one controller over another. It ain’t necessarily out of ignorance but priorities other than yours.
    3. Your €20 might look like and come from the same factory as mpk mini but you might have to write the software to run it yourself.

    1. Yes, and this particular one represents the lower end of china quality when it comes to midi controllers.

    2. I know, i never said that no one should buy it. I said that i wouldnt pay more than 10€ for it. Read

    3. Look, here is a full sized 49 key midi keyboard for 10 pounds https://www.gumtree.com/p/audio-midi-controllers/m-audio-midi-keyboard-controller/1272732323 . Here is another same keyboard for same price, so the price isnt something special https://www.gumtree.com/p/audio-midi-controllers/m-audio-keystation/1272775852 . They doesent require any programs, and i would much rather take this than mpk mini.

    I think its just silly that people praise a product as very good etc, when it clearly is not a very good controller. And everyone who has used a very good controller, can instantly notice that mpk mini is not a really nice controller. Sure its cheap, and the low price of it shows in its quality. And people returning these because they were simply too low quality and paying a bit more and getting a lot better quality and being happy with that new product is a clear evidence of this.

    Again im not saying that some people wont like these. Im saying that when people say that this is a very good controller etc, think whether or not that person actually knows what is a very good controller..

    I think MPK mini mk1 was my first mini controller. Ever since then I tried to upgrade it with Novation launchkey mini but had power issues (it was a fault of non genuine cck then) and I didn't like the tiny pads.

    Then I got m-audio air whatever. I didn't like the shiny smudgy looks and was a bit large.

    Then I tried reloop keyfadr but the software was pc only.

    After that I bought minilab mk1 but as soon as I got it out of the box the faux wood cheeks fell off. Then I had some software issues so returned with the excuse of the cheeks.

    Then minilab mk2 came out so I got it from the local shop and absolutely loved it as it had it all but... I started having stuck notes in sunrizer which was my synth app for live use. I tried all sorts including updating firmware, reinstalling apps and trying another unit. No go.

    So, there. Not for not knowing any better but simply because all the 'better' units out there didn't deliver. Even if I'd kept minilab I'd be missing finite knobs on Akai. Yes, they're cheap and cheerful yet work better for me.

    Personally i would rather have few stuck notes every now and then if it meant better build quality, since i dont play live gigs. And if i were to play live, i would use something else than one of the cheapest mini keys.

    You see, you'd rather live with a few stuck notes and have a otherwise solid feeling product. For me the stuck notes are absolute party killer.

    Apart from mushy keys and 'cheap chinese' looks the board scores high on all fronts. Never let me down despite a lot of abuse. I had 2 of them at one point :)

    No. I wouldnt play live with stuck notes, i never said that. I said that i would rather use something else than either of these if i were doing live stuff. I would get something else than mpk mini if i didnt already have good keys, and if the stuck notes are really something occurring often and with other apps than just sunrizer, i wouldnt trust minilab live either. But since i dont do live stuff, i would choose minilab because in non live situation a few stuck notes here and there are not as big of an issue to me as lower quality keys are. Could you please stop putting words in my mouth already?

    Yes, I promise

  • DatGoodDatGood

    Just wanna say that I finally got the MiniLab and definitely the best decision ever.

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @ph8aerror said:
    Just wanna say that I finally got the MiniLab and definitely the best decision ever.

    What do you like about it? I’m weighing up the exact same choice.

  • DatGoodDatGood

    @mistercharlie
    Although it’s heavier and slightly bigger, the general buid-quality seems more robust. The keys are bigger and deeper compared to Akai.
    I personally like the infinity rotary encoders.

  • mistercharliemistercharlie

    @ph8aerror Thanks!

  • rs2000rs2000

    Good to see @ph8aerror that you're happy with it.
    I've moved to the Keystep because I found seven extra keys were more important than knobs and pads to me - I prefer playing drums on the keyboard and generally use on-screen knobs and buttons because I find it hard to remember all the different knob mappings for different apps.
    Although I would really welcome, say, at least 4 more endless dials on the Keystep ;)

  • SygmaSygma

    @rs2000 said:
    Good to see @ph8aerror that you're happy with it.
    I've moved to the Keystep because I found seven extra keys were more important than knobs and pads to me - I prefer playing drums on the keyboard and generally use on-screen knobs and buttons because I find it hard to remember all the different knob mappings for different apps.
    Although I would really welcome, say, at least 4 more endless dials on the Keystep ;)

    Same for me, I got a second hand keystep at 70€ and I added a LPD8 wireless to get pads and encoders : good configuration to use with BM3 for example

  • DatGoodDatGood

    @Sygma damn, that's a good deal.
    @rs2000 I'll eventually move up to the Keystep when I finally get my first hardware synth (and more space). For now I just needed a portable software controller.

  • rs2000rs2000
    edited November 2017

    @ph8aerror said:
    @Sygma damn, that's a good deal.
    @rs2000 I'll eventually move up to the Keystep when I finally get my first hardware synth (and more space). For now I just needed a portable software controller.

    AFAIK the Minilab 2 has the same good keybed quality as the Keystep, so it's certainly another good option.
    If you get along well with it, then just keep it :)
    (You'll often use the octave switches anyway).

  • Heiliger_BimbamHeiliger_Bimbam

    How do the Mini Lab encoders feel? Any stepping?

  • RealrawrRealrawr

    @Heiliger_Bimbam said:
    How do the Mini Lab encoders feel? Any stepping?

    They're pretty smooth. the first one on each row has a subtle 'stepped' feel - and are 'clickable' - the other seven in each row are exceptionally smooth.

  • AudiojunkieAudiojunkie

    @BiancaNeve said:
    I think the mpk mini 2 needs a powered hub to work with iPad.

    That's how I understand it as well. That's why I didn't vote for it.

  • supadomsupadom

    @Audiojunkie said:

    @BiancaNeve said:
    I think the mpk mini 2 needs a powered hub to work with iPad.

    That's how I understand it as well. That's why I didn't vote for it.

    No it doesn’t but it does need a passive (unpowered) hub to work for some reason.

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