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You shouldn't have any problems opening the Korg T3 or Roland XP-80 editors in Midi Quest the in 1.0.5 or higher releases.
Yes, the way that memory is managed has been changed. And virtually all editors with the exception of the Korg Kronos should open on an iPad with minimal RAM.
No the error message wasn't fake. The program was retaining window graphics (quite expensive in terms of memory) so that editors could be re-opened faster - we were attempting to have the software operate as quickly as possible. It was a mistake for older iPads. In order to save RAM, the latest version releases window memory when an editor is closed. The memory requirements are lower but the editors takes longer to display when re-opened.
Yes, as discussed above, the RAM limitations have been addressed. I think the Korg Kronos is the only editor where a serious RAM limitation remains but that editor is in a class all its own.
Regarding an "All" option, all I can say is that it is being discussed.
You'll have to excuse me but I find this one offensive. The vast majority of our support is done via email so stating our support is near non-existent is simply XXXXXXXX.
Yes, this is software that does deal with out of date technology but that is what it has been about for the last 20 years - Attempting to add as much additional value to that technology as possible for those who want to use it in a modern environment. Sound Quest has made the investment in providing as much integration as possible of hardware synths into modern DAWs as is possible. That amount varies hugely depending on the DAW itself.
As to a "cash grab", there was a major investment of time and resources made to bring Midi Quest to the iPad. I don't see where the cash grab is in that.
Finally KVR, yes, there is a long history there. The interesting part of this is that the people complaining about all of their technical problems don't show up in our tech support database and we log everything. So who are these people who have all of these problems yet don't contact tech support? Out best guess is that you are looking at reviews from individuals who stole Midi Quest, didn't have access to Sound Quest tech support, and decided to write about their experiences with cracked software without admitting that that was what they were doing.
To this I will add a commentary on MIDI interfaces because it is relevant to the previous paragraph. The issue that Sound Quest support currently deals with most frequently is not Midi Quest itself but customers who are trying to use Midi Quest with a MIDI interface that doesn't properly support SysEx. This is a problem which, as far as we can see, is not being discussed on forums. Midi Quest's manuals contains a long list of MIDI interfaces which don't work properly and includes company names which we really wish weren't there. It should be obvious but I'll say it anyway, Midi Quest will not work properly if the MIDI interface being used doesn't work properly with SysEx. Most MIDI interfaces priced under $35US don't handle SysEx properly so you must be selective. The Chinese special on Amazon for $15 isn't going to do the job. There is also a company that made a huge push on iOS whose interfaces didn't handle SysEx properly for years.
So, if you are going to look at KVR, fine. Just be certain that the reviewer was using a legitimate copy of Midi Quest and was using a MIDI interface with drivers that could handle the SysEx.
As mentioned in the previous rant, these days it is not so much there drivers (although we do still see problems there) but cheap MIDI hardware which is literally not capable of properly processing SysEx messages. That is the source of the majority of the problems.
thanks for clearing some things up - and I'll add the (unspoken) name of Alesis who failed to make a proper memory/cpu choice, so the ioDock generation one was completely cut off from sysex.
But it would be easy to publish the IAP prices, wouldn't it ?
The $ icon is working meanwhile, but asks to confirm a purchase without showing the price.
Auditioning needs some improvement: the full keyboard is hard to operate and it would help much to have a few sequenced notes playing from within the app.
Not everyone has an exteral keyboard or sequencer at hand.
But at least I can confirm that the editor for the (exotic) Kawai XD-5 percussion synth worked - and that thing is a hell to program in sysex communication.
Im not sure(couldnt find a way to check), but i noticed there is an update on appstore now. However i just replaced my cs6x with virus c and dont have a need for this sort of app for it. If the iap thing is fixed i will certainly recommend this app for who ever i sell the cs6x to. It seems like it would really add a lot to it and better than what the mididesigner template for it gives, especially since mididesigner always resets if you switch apps..
Yes, the iap prices are posted on our web site. Each instrument editor specific page has the price on it. It's about 3/4 of the way down the page.
Unless you have turned it off in global preferences, Midi Quest does automatically play a "C" chord after each audition.
When you say "the full keyboard" are you talking about a physical keyboard in your rig or the virtual keyboard in MQ? If it is the keyboard in MQ you are referring to, how is this difficult to operate? And, in case you didn't realize, there is a virtual keyboard in Midi Quest. Display the monitor view at the bottom and tap the keyboard button on the right hand side and the monitor is replaced with a virtual keyboard.
Yes, the easiest way to see if there is an update is to just check the app store.
yes, I was talking about that virtual keyboard at the bottom spanning the full 88 key range - it's hard to hit a specific one - octave switches might apply if you don't want to stick with the usual swipe/lock handling.
But eventually I found the price, which is always at the bottom of each description.
While I get the point that exotic stuff requires a certain amount of cash flowing back, the general level is ambitious in the IOS world
Wow
"If people complain, they stole the software"
And you are taking offense ?
Nothing changes with you guys !!
I'm sorry to say but I have the 1.0.6 version and I am still having RAM problems even with 1 or 2 apps open. I can open other apps that have more complexity, but MidiQuest doesn't work. Tried again to open the editor for Korg T3 and the message says: There is insufficient RAM available.... Available Ram: 175 MB; Required Ram: 263 MB. So if I leave Safari open and no other app running I am still not able to use MidiQuest. If I try another synth (for example XP-80, the Ram is even bigger (around 560 MB). So it is still a hungry ram application. Why this?
I think the devs of MidiQuest need to optimize the app. In 3 years using the iPad Air 2 never had this kind of problem - with any app. Maybe I am wrong here but - this is a editor app (not as complex like sequencer, sampler like Cubasis, Beatmaker 3, Beathawk... or instruments like Moog Model 15, Gadget, Module, Sampletank, Syntronik, etc... - and I run all of these without problems). What makes this app consume so much RAM?
guessing from the description it tries to keep as much in Ram as possible.
And it could (possibly) load a lot... a database might apply
Any chance we can let this thread drop and just use the other one syrupcore started, my mind is overheating, other thread is older than this one, I should of looked back more pages when starting this one, slo off the mark as usual:)
https://forum.audiob.us/discussion/22169/midi-quest-for-ios-lands
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I believe you did spend time and money porting Midi Quest to the iPad, but looking at your prices, I question how much market research you did on the iOS music community before jumping in. You’re also not doing yourself any favors with your responses here, both in blaming all complaints on software pirates, and making claims that you could somehow vet all those complaints to find out which came from real customers.
Sure we take offence when they report what is most likely a problem with their MIDI interface as a problem with Midi Quest.> @joaoluiz14 said:
The current version of the app isn't consuming anywhere near that much RAM but it is looking at what the iPad reports as free RAM and compares it against a number that it thinks is required. If you have the latest version of the instrument module installed it would report that 6MB of RAM is required, not 263MB. For the XP-80, the message should say 27MB is required with the latest instrument module installed. In any given session, not even that much memory is used but it is the maximum value required when every editor is loaded.
I'm currently running MidiQuesti on an old iPad 3 with 1MB of RAM, half the memory of yours, and I have the T1 and XP-80 loaded in the app along with the Korg Karma 2, Virus TI2, Emu Proteus 2000, and Yamaha Motif ES and am having no memory issues. (All of the modules were loaded from the same server you are accessing)
For simplicity, I'd suggest that you just put the app in the trash, do a clean install and reload the instruments from scratch so you know that you have the latest releases.
Imho SoundQuest's response was far from a claim - if they track service requests (which is very likely) those 'internet affairs' are easy to identify and a (minimum) 90% pirate rate is rather the rule than the exception
The app doesn't adress the average IOS user anyway with it's strict hardware focus.
I may not have sold my Yamaha TX802 if Soundquest or Coffeeshopped would have appeared earlier and consider 50-80 bucks a reasonable amount.
(knowing how that shit is programmed)
Thank you! I did what you suggest and now I could finally see all the editors that I have installed. And I didn't receive any message about the RAM problem. Deleting the app and installing everything did correct the error.
I just hope you rethink the prices for the IAPs.
Great to see Midiquest on ipad but I also think the pricing isn't tempting enough. I have 3 or 4 hardware synths right now but the thing about them is you often sell hardware synths and get other ones. And considering you can't transfer a license with iOS software it makes it even more expensive....So it's too much for me.
However I bought the coffeshopped full license access because that was quite reasonable.
Similar boat. The two hardware synths I'm most interested in getting some control over are the Kurzweil K2000 ($119) and the Korg Wavestation SR ($79). $200 for two synths. That's $50 more than the desktop 'Essentials' version which allows for 3 synths to be loaded at once and only $50 less than the regular version which allows 5 at once. I think both include access to any/all instrument panels, the difference being how many can be loaded at once. Could be wrong on that point but either way, the pricing seems off. I don't mean 'off' as compared to other iOS prices (where it's way off but to each their own), I mean compared to the desktop version.
Maybe there's some additional part of the iPad version's value proposition that I'm just missing?
I think this is exactly what i was looking for to store my Korg Trinity sysex info. In the iPad.
Anyone know if it will store the data and send it even if I don’t purchase the module?
The program will load and store the bulk SysEx from the Trinity but not send it back.
Thanks for the confirmation. What we do is very much a specialty so we'll be watching to see how things progress.
The recent update with improved editor scaling works really well
I think the prices for these sysex apps are insane. Such a shame. Maybe one day some dude will create a reasonable sysex app for our old boy synths. This is the first negative I have experience since moving to iOS for music making.