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Sale on Gadget for Mac
Maybe you already knew this but Gadget for Mac is now half-price (150$ USD instead of 300$). Was expecting this around US Thanksgiving, but it came early.
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That's extremely good value compared to iOS
I’ve seen some rather negative sentiment towards Gadget for Mac but I really think it’s the ultimate platform for it. Even without the AUs, which are divine, I find each Gadget easier to use with a mouse than with my fingers. I would highly recommend anyone that’s on the fence to give it a shot.
Bear in mind that I have an iPad Mini; I fully accept the possibility that Gadget feels “touch-optimized” on a larger screen but it does not offer prime usability on an 8” tablet.
Without AU?
Can you use gadget with the Mac keyboard like logic can?
You can play notes with the mac keyboard - if that's what you mean.
Hmm, can you use the Gadgets as AUs inside Logic?
You can in GarageBand so I would say most likely yes.
I actually really like Gadget for the Mac. I like having up to four different screens visible at once, or some combination of less than that. They give you lots of options in that regard. It just works really well overall. I can see why some people wouldn't want it if they already have the IOS version. It's also not a full-fledged DAW although you can obviously make complete songs with it.
And every single gadget available for it, including the new ones that were just released, come with it. Those, just like the last few before them, were free updates for the Mac version. Seems like a pretty good value proposition to me, even at $300. At $150 it's a steal, especially since you can use all of those gadgets as Audio Units in other DAWs.
Here's what Gadget looks like on the new Native Instrument kontrollers.
AU-some.
Does this mean with the sale that in the UK with the currency conversion, the full Mac Gadget is around £113?
That's insanely good value with all of those AU synths that can be used in Logic etc.
Very tempting, but part of me is thinking 'do i really need it if I have all I need on my iPad' and am currently enjoying working with bm3 / gadget on iOS so why buy these additional AU desktop gadgets for logic, when I'm currently not even using logic that much.
Unless I'm missing another view point I haven't thought of ?
Quite annoyingly, due to the 15% discount at Morrisons, I popped into Stratford and bought enough iChoons cards to cover the cost of Gadget macOS.
You can’t buy it with those.
Obviously this would be more suited to Ableton Live use, but as a Logic owner I find myself so drawn to the idea of this package. The deal is ridiculously good considering it includes all of the iap expansions for the gadgets which have those.
On the otherhand, I don't really like the sound of the gadgets I do have on iOS. I'm going to give the Le version a shot I guess.
Ha oh boy I was about to do that tomorrow but of course it’s purchased direct from korg. Completely forgot. Still 113£ is a great price.
Yes and thank you
I thought Korg did their pricing like Apple so if it's $149 it will be £149. However, if it is £113 then I think I will buy this even though it is still a steal at £149.
Can anyone in the UK who has bought this at the sale price confirm that it is £113?
Yes you can, it works fine for me
There’s no option to change the currency to sterling and my account was set to uk and at checkout it showed up as $149. So I don’t see how it’s not around 113
Does that include VAT? I’ve been clobbered a few times with VAT added on to the total, right at the last minute on other sites.
That's what I was thinking too. The sale price will probably be around about £135 when VAT is added due to new EU law regulations on digital purchases.
http://www.bmmagazine.co.uk/in-business/advice/need-know-vat-regulations-websites-selling-digital-downloads/
I told you already. that was the price at checkout. Checkout is checkout. There is no further stage beyond that where extra charges are incurred. There is also no VAT in the US that’s a European tax. They have sales tax and state tax. There obviously isn’t any state tax as you are purchasing online. And as for sales tax it would have appeared by the checkout point.
The price will fluctuate based on the days currncy exchange rate and whichever exchange your credit card company uses.
Today it comes in at approximate 117. But you keep doubting what I say so for your own piece of mind I’d advise against the purchase.
Alright boss, only asking. I can't afford it anyway, just interested.
Actually, checkout isn't always the final stage (I build ecom stores, so I know they have their own way of working). Some will have another step after they ask for your address, and so for UK buyers this can be where they whack on the VAT as this is where they do the tax calculation. Some stores include the VAT in previous steps, others don't.
If you've added your UK address, then I guess in this case though it's the final step.
I've never paid for VAT, but I do get charged a foreign transaction fee by my credit card company. And Paypal too. Also they don't always give you the best conversion rates, which costs you. If you have more than one card, you should use the one with the lowest fee. I'm going to get a Capitol One card, because they don't pass on the fee. I could have saved some money over the years.
https://www.creditcards.com/credit-card-news/what-is-foreign-transaction-fee.php
I think that's why a lot of UK companies, like Plugin Boutique and Loopmasters have customer loyalty programs, where you get a tiny bonus every time you buy something.
The foreign exchange rate fee tends to be built also known as ‘hidden’ in the conversion and currency exchange. So you get a lower rate due to the additional percentage fee or whatever your bank decides to add on. So PayPal gives you a rate of 1.28ish today whereas the actually exchange is around 1.31.
@triton100 Does Paypal charge a fee for international transactions? I know it doesn't cost to buy stuff using Paypal if it's in the US. And you can transfer money overseas for free.
Don’t think so, their conversion rate is always rubbish though.
They build in their foreign exchange commission fee into the currency conversion. Ie you get a less favourable exchange rate. Any financial institution that says they have no foreign exchange rate fees are hiding the fact that they gain their commission through other means. Other than a couple of credit cards in the uk who offer fee free foreign transactions.
That deal started before US Thanksgiving. It was my first purchase in this “end of year buying frenzy”. Today, a day after Boxing Day in Canada, is an appropriate time to think about those past six weeks. Whew!
Korg Gadget was among my most satisfying purchases. Having all of these synths available from every plugin host on my MacBook Pro really changes a lot of things, for me. In fact, it made me focus on macOS musicking a lot more. My only full DAW is Tracktion Waveform (which comes for free with ROLI’s Blocks). Also got Ableton Live Lite (thanks to Korg Gadget for iOS, originally) and Bitwig 8-Track (because they took pity on me). Learnt a bit about DAWs, but never really got the point.
Layering virtual instruments from Korg’s collection makes the whole DAW thing make much more sense to me. Prior to buying Gadget for Mac, my virtual instrument options were rather limited (Equator, Synthmaster, Xpand!2, and a bunch of free plugins). Got a lot of satisfaction out of MainStage but the fact that these sounds aren’t really available outside of this one app does limit things a lot.
So, this one synth collection really changed the game, for me. Guess it’s the kind of “spur of the moment” thinking. Had an idea for something which sounded a bit like it could be played on an Electric Piano and, boom, the Montreal plugin was there for me in Waveform. (Quite fitting for someone who grew up in the 514.) Would probably never buy the Module app or any other keyboard-focused plugin. But it hit the spot at just the right time. Same with B3-like organs and such. If MainStage were distributed as a set of plugins, Gadget’s value wouldn’t have been the same, for me. But it does really feel like money well spent. (On my credit card statement: 194$, CAD. Just a couple of dollars above the interbank rate for that day.)
After taking advantage of that deal, discovered Plugin Boutique and #KVRDeals. Bought a number of things, including Avid/Digidesign’s AIR Instrument Expansion Pack Complete (99,75$, CAD). In some ways, this felt like less value for the money. Have yet to really explore these synths and they do afford some pretty neat sounds. But Hybrid 3 is probably the one which fits my needs the most and it was already available for 1$.
People on the KVR forums tend to badmouth Korg Gadget, especially when it comes to comparisons with the Korg (Legacy) Collection (which was just updated). To be honest, can’t really tell why. They make it sound like there are things the Gadget versions can’t do that the Korg Collection versions can do. But, really, it’s unclear to me what those things might be. They make it sound like Gadgets only work with factory presets but, as we all know, you can tweak most of them to your heart’s content. In fact, people here who use the iWavestation app and/or plugin tend to enjoy the flexibility. Are the differences between the Wavestation softsynth as part of the Korg Legacy Collection and the Gadget version so big that the Gadget really is just that, a gadget?
To me, there are a few neat features of Korg Gadget which makes it particularly useful, for me. One is the pseudo-DAW itself. People talk a lot about “musical scratchpads” and such. In some ways, this is what the Korg Gadget app is, for me. Maybe it’s even more of “DAW training wheels”, as iOS Gadget was my first experience with this kind of scene-based creation. People might dismiss that kind of experience very quickly, perhaps to hype up their proficiency in Ableton Live or Logic. But there’s a lot to be said about the design of a pseudo-DAW which allows for complete thoughts to be fleshed out quickly.
The iOS-macOS integration is also part of that. Haven’t used that kind of workflow extensively, but there’s something really neat about starting something on iOS, working on it through macOS, then back on iOS (or in a full DAW). Haven’t had any experience with the full DAWs which come with iOS versions (Cubase/Cubasis, FL Studio and FLSM…). Maybe it’s even better with those. But it’s a neat feature which isn’t really present in the Korg Collection.
Then, there’s the pure diversity of sounds which can be produced with those 34 gadgets. Any subset of these might be useful. But the overall collection is quite well-designed. Maybe people who know exactly what they want to play and exactly how to make things work perceive no advantage there. But, in my experience, there’s quite a bit of inspiration going through several of these synths and playing with them until something unexpected comes out.
The other part, which might be where some of the condescension originates, is that the overall interface of each gadget makes it rather easy to play with different sounds. The layout for most things is such that you can start with a preset and explore different possibilities by tweaking some knobs and listening for differences. You don’t necessarily need to understand very deeply how each synthesis technique works before you can get some satisfaction. This kind of instant gratification isn’t incompatible with a much deeper and methodical approach. In fact, learning a bit of sound design at the same time helped me grasp what was going on with most of these gadgets and have even more fun with them. Still, the ease-of-use might be part of what’s offputting to those who are used to more complicated interfaces.
So, at any rate, that macOS version of Korg Gadget is now among my most prized acquisitions of the past six weeks. Apart from a whole bunch of iOS apps, the only purchase which really changed things for me was Native Instruments Reaktor. It’d be insanely awesome if we could create iOS AUv3 versions of Reaktor ensembles. Not that it’s likely to happen but imagine what would happen if, overnight, you could have access to the thousands of cool projects in the Reaktor User Library and make some of your own synths based on them.
Whoa!
Hey, the musicking guy’s back!
It occurred to me today, that if one has Gadget iOS and the Lexington with only the default patch set (not the extra couple of handfuls of expensive patches which change the colour of the graphic) and you’ve also got Gadget macOS, then you can theoretically audition a patch from the extra patch sets, and save one or more that you want in that composition, to the user bank.
I wouldn’t do that myself, of course, I’d naturally re-wire it completely before it got to be a saved patch.
Maybe you should of tried buying iChune cards instead?