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So I bought this only to discover that NEO SOUL KEYS STUDIO DOES NOT SUPPORT IAA!!!
I have spend over an hour now and I can't get it to work with Studiomux. It will load as an AU in Studiomux. But I can't for the life of me figure out how to get an AU working in Studiomux. It sees incoming MIDI (I can see the keys lighting up red). And if I play the onscreen keys, I can hear audio. But I cannot get it to work like every other app I've ever used.
I am VERY UNHAPPY with this purchase so far. Had I know it did not support IAA, I would never have bought it. I just assumed IAA support was standard nowadays. Looking like a big waste of $ so far....
I'll keep experimenting, but so far no joy! (sigh)
noticed that too. m ust be a bug yeah? in the meantime you can host the AU in AUM, and send the channel output to a studiomux out.
Would that I owned AUM.
I made the same mistake with Bassalicious. Still, the keys are excellent quality.
I have Korg Module and the Electric Piano iAP. I think that it sounds great. Too.
NeoSoulKeys Studio is other. IF you play with these sorts of sounds then you will want to play with these sorts of sounds.
OK, after giving up, a night's sleep, and about FOUR HOURS of experimenting, I FINALLY have come up with a solution!
First I had to update my iPad to iOS 11 (which I wasn't quite ready for and which means I'm losing a couple of 32 bit apps I wasn't ready to give up).
However, the update to iOS 11, gave me access to_ IDAM_ for MIDI. This means that on a Mac the iPad will show up as both an audio device and a MIDI device. (Under iOS 10 only audio was possible). This allows me to take Studiomux out of the picture.
This means that I can create a MIDI track in my DAW and assign its output to the iPad without the need for Studiomux or MIDImux or MusicIO, etc. Hooray!
But then it took me a loooong, loooong, time to figure out how monitor the audio coming from the iPad. Part of this has to do w/ the MOTU 823mk3 audio interface I use. I had to add the iPad as a 2nd audio hardware driver in my DAW (didn't need to do the aggregate device thing, fortunately). Then I had to change my Input Monitoring Mode from its usual setting of "Direct Hardware Playthrough" (which allows me to monitor latency free through MOTU's Cuemix system), to the "Monitor record-enabled tracks through effects" setting. I don't normally have to do this to monitor any other hardware synth or iOS synth, and it means that my computer has to be set to lower buffers and I lose the latency-free benefits of "Cuemix" monitoring.
THEN, in order to be able to record and playback MIDI and monitor its audio independent of recording it, I had to set up Aux tracks and change how I normally record and monitor iPad instrument tracks, details of which I'll spare you, but it basically means I had to invent a whole new method I hadn't used before, and it involved remembering to enable and disable several different setting as I record MIDI, then render it as audio, etc.
I suppose I can get used to this workflow, but it seems a lot to go through just to be able to use one iPad instrument.
And this only works on a Mac. I imagine Studiomux is still needed on the PC. And as far as I can tell there is no way to get an AU that is loaded in Studiomux to receive MIDI.
All of this could be avoided if this app only offered IAA support!
@GospelMusicians Jamal: Is there any way you might consider implementing IAA support in Neo Soul Keys Studio? This was a very unpleasant customer experience for me. Thank gawd, I finally found a solution, but I was THIS close to asking for a refund (and I have never EVER asked for a refund on any piece of software, iPad or desktop). I would have been able to avoid all of this, if only I could have used IAA.
Anyway, onward and upward to exploring what this thing can do. It does sound pretty sweet so far! Thanks for listening! :-)
Yours ever,
Lady App-titude
I continue to pray for midi in/out
@Lady_App_titude I'm so sorry that you're having such a rough time. There was a time for me when I couldn't understand why in the world I would need AUM since I already had AudioBus. Especially at $18 without the instant gratification of a synth or some other noisemaker.
I, like so many others, finally bit the bullet and bought it. Now it is the most used tool on my iPad. I literally start EVERY jam with opening AUM. I can't believe that I ever questioned needing it.
I'm sure that buying yet ANOTHER app isn't something you want to do right now - been there MANY times myself. Just when you have your workflow down another app you want comes along and throws it for a loop. But as much as it may sting in the short term, AUM will make your life super easy and pay for itself many times over.
Not trying to push you to spend more money for sure - I'm spending today trying NOT to buy Geoshred on sale - but this is one of the few times where functionality outweighs anything.
I know it's very hard for some people to understand, but you have to realize that software development is very expensive. We don't have unlimited resources to add every feature that is requested. To be fair, in none of our write-up on the iTunes store do we advertise that we support IAA or Audiobus. We don't understand why people tend to get upset at features we don't support. Is there anything we are doing on our product page that would allude to the fact that we do support IAA or AudioBus?
With that being said, AUv3 has everything one would need. We understand that it changes your workflow, but we see no reason to invest in resources when AUv3 is so solid.
Also Apple has changed the echosystem to where if you pay over $30 for an app, even though it has 100% of the desktop features of a $199.99 app, a customer still feels it is too expensive. So a developer has to sell thousands to match on the iOS store. Not to mention Apple takes 30%. So we have to be smart when it comes to adding features and operating a successful business.
I can't speak for Lady Apptitude Jamal and first let me say that I've purchased 3 of your apps and they are all incredible. .. That said imho I don't think the issue is one of you or the App Store misrepresenting what your apps are capable of in word of mouth or in marketing at all. I think in some cases such as these it's just that the really great apps 'sting' a bit more when what is largely seen as a basic standard is omitted. Whether it's the 'audiobus' standard or for me personally the lack of both midi in and out... since midi has been around for so very long and is such a mainstay I've come to expect it in synth and keyboard apps, especially since I use external sequencers and use the iPad like as a sound module.
I know you're tired of me asking but I assure you it's nothing nefarious that's driving me, it's just because your apps are so good that I even care.. It's like the Samplr app, it doesn't have audio panning in it's mixer and it doesn't say anything about having audio panning in the app description or anywhere so it's not case of misrepresentation but.... it needs some Panning urgently, and although not everyone uses panning every musician understands the importance of any mixer having 'Panning'.
both midi in and out is like that.
Thank you to everyone who brought through the links, it’s very epic, I do love Neo Soul Keys, it’s so easy just to play and play and play, I like making it sound like it had been lost in a dark damp storage unit for the last 20 years
Exactly the opposite is the problem. Literally every single app on my iPad -- and I've got dozens and dozens of them -- supports IAA. When something is essentially a universal standard, products don't need to state that they support it. That's like a hardware synth stating "comes with MIDI." Thus, the problem is not that you don't state that you support a standard feature, is is that you _don't _state that you are the one-in-a-hundred exception that does NOT support it. A simple statement like: "This product does not support IAA audio" would cover it.
The reason is that customers buy the product and instead of being able to instantly enjoy it, they spend hours hating it while they sort out trying to make it work. Hours. No small thing.
Having said that, I confess I have no personal concept of what it would take to implement something like IAA. I can only assume that since everyone else does it, it can't be that big of a deal. But I could certainly be completely off in that assumption.
I also will add that, having spent more time with this, it turns out that I was wrong about not being able to monitor through Cuemix and Direct Hardware Playthrough. It turns out I CAN monitor in my normal way, as long as I use an Aux track to monitor. The change in my Input Monitoring setting was only required when routing the iPad input to an Audio track. Aux track solves the issue.
I am starting to get more used to this workflow. And it may be that with new advances like iOS 11 and IDAM (which are still quite new), IAA and Studiomux may start to become less relevant -- at least for Mac users. But just a few weeks ago, the solution I found w/ IDAM MIDI would not have been possible. I shall consider your points. Thank you for considering mine.
Best,
Lady App.
Apple pretty much stated that IAA was over. I didn’t realize that message hasn’t really gotten out there.
That's true and I feel we'll see more and more AUv3's will be coming in the near future and the 'host' will most likely be used to control them so there is no practical need for 'midi out' since the host handles the automation anyway most likely using 'non midi' AUParameterNames...
This was our understanding as well from all of the releases of AUv3. IAA was a stop-gate before AUv3.
iOS 11 has only just been rolled out. I guarantee most people don’t know what IDAM MIDI is or how to use it. Maybe a year from now one could start to talk about IAA being “over”.
nice> @kobamoto said:
I don't understand- it's not IAA, can we also not use it stand-alone?
yeah but my host is an external midi sequencer that records note input as well as knob movements into itself and plays them back like basic sound module capability from the 80s.
yeah you can play it because it has midi 'IN', you just can't record it into an external sequencer and have that sequencer play it back like it would a motif or a triton or whatever...because there is no midi out
None of my 'sound-modues' had a keyboard to play with so I had to use an external controller just like I do today but I use the 'hosts' keyboard to play the modules so for me it doesn't even matter if an app has a built-in keyboard as long as I can send some notes to it...
Finally jumped off the fence and got this. Have to say this is an absolute joy of an app and a total bargain at this sale price.
Same for me. :-)
I see, thank you.
my sound modules never had any keyboard attached to them either but they all had midi in and midi out and some had midi through.... I use a nord synth as a midi controller, but I sequence with an external hardware sequencer that records and plays back midi notes, ccs, program changes etc..
like this guy.... check the 2:17 mark
I feel $15 for these sounds is awesome! sorry for everyone’s connectivity issues I’ve been there before.
If a choice needs making, hope that all devs make AU the choice over IAA. AU is far more reliable than IAA and most hosts are AU compatible now. I think the only host I’m personally waiting to go AU is ToneStack
Bought it. Loving the sounds.
Loving it as AU inside AUM.
Keep up the great work gospelmusicians!
Me myself I like to have a stand alone and a AU version but this guy sounds so good I don’t mind at all.
I think with the iOS platform you need to have a couple different workflows you are comfortable working in since things are always changing.
I never got on with Church, but I love that church music!
Thanks man...