Apogee mic straight into Zoom U 24?

Telstar5

Can I go straight in the USB connection on the USB port on the Zoom U-24 or does it needs to see to USB bits going OUT of my iOS device? Or do I need an audio hub ?( The idea is to somehow plug the Apogee into the audio input of my Korg Kross keyboard which in fact records audio.

Strizbiz

I’m pretty sure the iPad can only see one interface at a time, I tried using my Apogee mic and Apogee jam at the same time thru a usb hub but the iPad would only let me see one of them. I can use my Apogee mic and duet at the same time with my Mac as an aggregate device but I don’t think the iPad has anything that lets you use multiple interfaces.

Ribbon

I don't have an Apogee Mic so I'm not 100% sure how this mic works, but the U-24 only takes the iPad's audio as USB audio input, meaning it's meant to be used with the XLR/jack as audio input (not USB) and only uses the USB port for communicating with the iPad (audio and MIDI I/O) and for charging. You can't plug anything else into the USB port.

However, if you plug class compliant USB audio devices into a USB hub and the hub into the iPad, it should see them as different channels. I vaguely remember once trying this with two iMic USB audio interfaces plugged into a USB hub, and Audiobus could see them as two separate sound sources with their own channels (when you click on the (i) button). Or it might have been with an iMic and a USB soundcard, I can't remember, but you do get separate audio channels on the iPad, provided you do it via the lightning/usb port instead of the headphone one, and the devices are class compliant.

I think the Apogee Mic is class compliant according to this list http://auriaapp.com/Support/auria-audio-interfaces (although it says there that the mic uses the headphone output? Is it not a USB mic?)

This said. If you want to connect this mic directly into the Korg Kross, it might not work because from what I understand it's made specifically for iPad/Mac. It's not a regular microphone. Does it maybe have a TRRS cable? (the one with three black rings instead of two?)

Telefunky

no, the Apogee Mic uses a digital connection only - the headphone socket is needed to monitor the mic.
The original AM lacked headphone connectivity, which the recent version has included.

Telstar5

Thanks everyone, especially @Ribbon .

Strizbiz

@Ribbon said:
I don't have an Apogee Mic so I'm not 100% sure how this mic works, but the U-24 only takes the iPad's audio as USB audio input, meaning it's meant to be used with the XLR/jack as audio input (not USB) and only uses the USB port for communicating with the iPad (audio and MIDI I/O) and for charging. You can't plug anything else into the USB port.

However, if you plug class compliant USB audio devices into a USB hub and the hub into the iPad, it should see them as different channels. I vaguely remember once trying this with two iMic USB audio interfaces plugged into a USB hub, and Audiobus could see them as two separate sound sources with their own channels (when you click on the (i) button). Or it might have been with an iMic and a USB soundcard, I can't remember, but you do get separate audio channels on the iPad, provided you do it via the lightning/usb port instead of the headphone one, and the devices are class compliant.

I think the Apogee Mic is class compliant according to this list http://auriaapp.com/Support/auria-audio-interfaces (although it says there that the mic uses the headphone output? Is it not a USB mic?)

This said. If you want to connect this mic directly into the Korg Kross, it might not work because from what I understand it's made specifically for iPad/Mac. It's not a regular microphone. Does it maybe have a TRRS cable? (the one with three black rings instead of two?)

You can get separate audio channels but your audio interface has to have multiple inputs, but if you connect 2 interfaces only the first one shows up, in the picture attached, I have an Apogee Mic and an Apogee Jam going thru a usb hub, both are being powered but the IPad will only see the first in the hub or the first one plugged in when usb hub is plugged in, I also tried with an Apogee Duet, Mic and Jam plugged up and it only sees which ever was plugged in first, I have pretty much every major IOS Daw, Auria Pro, Cubasis, Garage Band, Multitrack Daw, AUM, BM3, they all only see one interface at a time. If any one can prove me wrong I love to see it, I would love to record guitar and vocals at the same time just using the Apogee Mic and Jam.

Ribbon

@Strizbiz said:

@Ribbon said:
I don't have an Apogee Mic so I'm not 100% sure how this mic works, but the U-24 only takes the iPad's audio as USB audio input, meaning it's meant to be used with the XLR/jack as audio input (not USB) and only uses the USB port for communicating with the iPad (audio and MIDI I/O) and for charging. You can't plug anything else into the USB port.

However, if you plug class compliant USB audio devices into a USB hub and the hub into the iPad, it should see them as different channels. I vaguely remember once trying this with two iMic USB audio interfaces plugged into a USB hub, and Audiobus could see them as two separate sound sources with their own channels (when you click on the (i) button). Or it might have been with an iMic and a USB soundcard, I can't remember, but you do get separate audio channels on the iPad, provided you do it via the lightning/usb port instead of the headphone one, and the devices are class compliant.

I think the Apogee Mic is class compliant according to this list http://auriaapp.com/Support/auria-audio-interfaces (although it says there that the mic uses the headphone output? Is it not a USB mic?)

This said. If you want to connect this mic directly into the Korg Kross, it might not work because from what I understand it's made specifically for iPad/Mac. It's not a regular microphone. Does it maybe have a TRRS cable? (the one with three black rings instead of two?)

You can get separate audio channels but your audio interface has to have multiple inputs, but if you connect 2 interfaces only the first one shows up, in the picture attached, I have an Apogee Mic and an Apogee Jam going thru a usb hub, both are being powered but the IPad will only see the first in the hub or the first one plugged in when usb hub is plugged in, I also tried with an Apogee Duet, Mic and Jam plugged up and it only sees which ever was plugged in first, I have pretty much every major IOS Daw, Auria Pro, Cubasis, Garage Band, Multitrack Daw, AUM, BM3, they all only see one interface at a time. If any one can prove me wrong I love to see it, I would love to record guitar and vocals at the same time just using the Apogee Mic and Jam.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, but it did work for me. Not sure how I did it and I can't recreate it as I've gotten rid of my iMic interfaces (too noisy).
Let's just say that most of the time it doesn't work.

Strizbiz

@Ribbon said:

@Strizbiz said:

@Ribbon said:
I don't have an Apogee Mic so I'm not 100% sure how this mic works, but the U-24 only takes the iPad's audio as USB audio input, meaning it's meant to be used with the XLR/jack as audio input (not USB) and only uses the USB port for communicating with the iPad (audio and MIDI I/O) and for charging. You can't plug anything else into the USB port.

However, if you plug class compliant USB audio devices into a USB hub and the hub into the iPad, it should see them as different channels. I vaguely remember once trying this with two iMic USB audio interfaces plugged into a USB hub, and Audiobus could see them as two separate sound sources with their own channels (when you click on the (i) button). Or it might have been with an iMic and a USB soundcard, I can't remember, but you do get separate audio channels on the iPad, provided you do it via the lightning/usb port instead of the headphone one, and the devices are class compliant.

I think the Apogee Mic is class compliant according to this list http://auriaapp.com/Support/auria-audio-interfaces (although it says there that the mic uses the headphone output? Is it not a USB mic?)

This said. If you want to connect this mic directly into the Korg Kross, it might not work because from what I understand it's made specifically for iPad/Mac. It's not a regular microphone. Does it maybe have a TRRS cable? (the one with three black rings instead of two?)

You can get separate audio channels but your audio interface has to have multiple inputs, but if you connect 2 interfaces only the first one shows up, in the picture attached, I have an Apogee Mic and an Apogee Jam going thru a usb hub, both are being powered but the IPad will only see the first in the hub or the first one plugged in when usb hub is plugged in, I also tried with an Apogee Duet, Mic and Jam plugged up and it only sees which ever was plugged in first, I have pretty much every major IOS Daw, Auria Pro, Cubasis, Garage Band, Multitrack Daw, AUM, BM3, they all only see one interface at a time. If any one can prove me wrong I love to see it, I would love to record guitar and vocals at the same time just using the Apogee Mic and Jam.

Sorry, I wasn't trying to prove you wrong, but it did work for me. Not sure how I did it and I can't recreate it as I've gotten rid of my iMic interfaces (too noisy).
Let's just say that most of the time it doesn't work.

yeah, Ill probably look into an Apogee one or something so I can record guitar and vocals at the same time to put down ideas, I can do it with my Duet and a mic but the duet needs power, I want to be able to be mobile and do it

Telstar5

I’m only trying to record Apogee mic into the line in of my keyboard. I think I have to plug it into my iPhone and out of my iPhone to the usb of the Zoom U24.
Alternately I can record straight into my iPhone as my Korg Kross 2 now has a two way audio/Midi interface .