iPad Mini Pro 2018

mannix

Does anybody know if there wil be an iPad Mini or Pro update next year or if the mini model is EOL? I still like the form factor, besides that on iPHones a lot of music apps don't work.

Lady_App_titude

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Ribbon

@Lady_App_titude said:
This from back in October is the only peep we’ve heard from Apple about it in a long long time. Best we can take away from this is that it’s not dead. I am really hoping we’ll see something in 2018, but that’s about all I can do for now.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/19/tim-cook-mac-mini/

This article is about the Mac Mini though, not the iPad Mini

Lady_App_titude

@Ribbon said:

@Lady_App_titude said:
This from back in October is the only peep we’ve heard from Apple about it in a long long time. Best we can take away from this is that it’s not dead. I am really hoping we’ll see something in 2018, but that’s about all I can do for now.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/19/tim-cook-mac-mini/

This article is about the Mac Mini though, not the iPad Mini

D’oh! Sorry. Been kinda obsessed about the possibility of a new Mac Mini. So much so that apparently I’m seeing it where it doesn’t exist!

Ribbon

@Lady_App_titude said:

@Ribbon said:

@Lady_App_titude said:
This from back in October is the only peep we’ve heard from Apple about it in a long long time. Best we can take away from this is that it’s not dead. I am really hoping we’ll see something in 2018, but that’s about all I can do for now.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/19/tim-cook-mac-mini/

This article is about the Mac Mini though, not the iPad Mini

D’oh! Sorry. Been kinda obsessed about the possibility of a new Mac Mini. So much so that apparently I’m seeing it where it doesn’t exist!

Haha, I know they're mint aren't they. The old models are still holding up pretty well though, I used an old 2005 one recently in a variety of pretty rough outdoors conditions and pushed it quite hard but it ran as smooth as butter. I like them better than Macbooks tbh.

Lady_App_titude

@Ribbon said:

@Lady_App_titude said:

@Ribbon said:

@Lady_App_titude said:
This from back in October is the only peep we’ve heard from Apple about it in a long long time. Best we can take away from this is that it’s not dead. I am really hoping we’ll see something in 2018, but that’s about all I can do for now.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/19/tim-cook-mac-mini/

This article is about the Mac Mini though, not the iPad Mini

D’oh! Sorry. Been kinda obsessed about the possibility of a new Mac Mini. So much so that apparently I’m seeing it where it doesn’t exist!

Haha, I know they're mint aren't they. The old models are still holding up pretty well though, I used an old 2005 one recently in a variety of pretty rough outdoors conditions and pushed it quite hard but it ran as smooth as butter. I like them better than Macbooks tbh.

Yes, I have a late 2012 Quadcore, which is still serving me well, and is in many ways better than the current Mac Mini, but this product more than any other is the most overdue for a refresh. So much so that just seeing the world "Mini" made my head spin!

But, back to iPads (sorry for the diversion)....

Gaia.Tree

Come on with the titles y'all geeeez

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https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/ipad-mini/

ExAsperis99

As long as we're talking about the Mac Mini, is there any consensus on repurposing old iMacs as monitors? It seems INSANELY wasteful that the decommissioned iMac can't be used as a monitor. (I mean easily used. Like, with a cable and not a screwdriver and soldering iron....)

mannix

@Lady_App_titude said:

@Ribbon said:

@Lady_App_titude said:
This from back in October is the only peep we’ve heard from Apple about it in a long long time. Best we can take away from this is that it’s not dead. I am really hoping we’ll see something in 2018, but that’s about all I can do for now.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/19/tim-cook-mac-mini/

This article is about the Mac Mini though, not the iPad Mini

D’oh! Sorry. Been kinda obsessed about the possibility of a new Mac Mini. So much so that apparently I’m seeing it where it doesn’t exist!

You could buy a HP G3 Mini i7-7700 (Quadcore) seems to run Hackintosh. Blows probably the fastest mac away. Easy upgradable and it's even smaller than a mac mini

http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/elitedesk-800-mini-349547--1#!&tab=features

rickwaugh

@ExAsperis99 said:
As long as we're talking about the Mac Mini, is there any consensus on repurposing old iMacs as monitors? It seems INSANELY wasteful that the decommissioned iMac can't be used as a monitor. (I mean easily used. Like, with a cable and not a screwdriver and soldering iron....)

They're super easy to use as a monitor with another mac. Plug it in via thunderbolt, boot up both. Then click Command F2 on the one you want to use as a monitor.

rickwaugh

I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

rickwaugh

@mannix said:

@Lady_App_titude said:

@Ribbon said:

@Lady_App_titude said:
This from back in October is the only peep we’ve heard from Apple about it in a long long time. Best we can take away from this is that it’s not dead. I am really hoping we’ll see something in 2018, but that’s about all I can do for now.

https://9to5mac.com/2017/10/19/tim-cook-mac-mini/

This article is about the Mac Mini though, not the iPad Mini

D’oh! Sorry. Been kinda obsessed about the possibility of a new Mac Mini. So much so that apparently I’m seeing it where it doesn’t exist!

You could buy a HP G3 Mini i7-7700 (Quadcore) seems to run Hackintosh. Blows probably the fastest mac away. Easy upgradable and it's even smaller than a mac mini

http://store.hp.com/us/en/mdp/desktops/elitedesk-800-mini-349547--1#!&tab=features

Put an SSD in your old Mac. Makes it run like a whole new computer.

We have a pile of old mac minis we use for various things. They just keep running.

ExAsperis99

@rickwaugh said:

@ExAsperis99 said:
As long as we're talking about the Mac Mini, is there any consensus on repurposing old iMacs as monitors? It seems INSANELY wasteful that the decommissioned iMac can't be used as a monitor. (I mean easily used. Like, with a cable and not a screwdriver and soldering iron....)

They're super easy to use as a monitor with another mac. Plug it in via thunderbolt, boot up both. Then click Command F2 on the one you want to use as a monitor.

If only my old iMac had a Thunderbolt port.... But that's good news going forward!

richlum

@rickwaugh said:
I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

Problem is that ipad only apps don't work on iphone+.

I would buy an updated ipad mini just so I could use Cubasis on something more portable than a 10" ipad

rickwaugh

@richlum said:

@rickwaugh said:
I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

Problem is that ipad only apps don't work on iphone+.

I would buy an updated ipad mini just so I could use Cubasis on something more portable than a 10" ipad

Apple just responds to the market. The problem is that the vast majority of people use their iOS devices for only browsing the web and playing games. And they can do that fine on the +, and not have to buy an iPad, and a phone too. So the bottom has fallen out of the mini market.

But who knows what the marketing wonks at Apple will decide. The mini sure has not been getting much love.

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@rickwaugh said:

@richlum said:

@rickwaugh said:
I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

Problem is that ipad only apps don't work on iphone+.

I would buy an updated ipad mini just so I could use Cubasis on something more portable than a 10" ipad

Apple just responds to the market. The problem is that the vast majority of people use their iOS devices for only browsing the web and playing games. And they can do that fine on the +, and not have to buy an iPad, and a phone too. So the bottom has fallen out of the mini market.

But who knows what the marketing wonks at Apple will decide. The mini sure has not been getting much love.

And that’s why I repurpose old iDevices as standalone and my iPad mini4 will be the last I probably buy. Time to look into dedicated hardware and avoid Apple products...

ExAsperis99

@Dubbylabby said:

@rickwaugh said:

@richlum said:

@rickwaugh said:
I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

Problem is that ipad only apps don't work on iphone+.

I would buy an updated ipad mini just so I could use Cubasis on something more portable than a 10" ipad

Apple just responds to the market. The problem is that the vast majority of people use their iOS devices for only browsing the web and playing games. And they can do that fine on the +, and not have to buy an iPad, and a phone too. So the bottom has fallen out of the mini market.

But who knows what the marketing wonks at Apple will decide. The mini sure has not been getting much love.

And that’s why I repurpose old iDevices as standalone and my iPad mini4 will be the last I probably buy. Time to look into dedicated hardware and avoid Apple products...

I'm not quite ready to abandon the iPad, but it does occur to me that a Digitakt will last longer than an iPad by some margin.

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mannix

@rickwaugh said:

@richlum said:

@rickwaugh said:
I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

Problem is that ipad only apps don't work on iphone+.

I would buy an updated ipad mini just so I could use Cubasis on something more portable than a 10" ipad

Apple just responds to the market. The problem is that the vast majority of people use their iOS devices for only browsing the web and playing games. And they can do that fine on the +, and not have to buy an iPad, and a phone too. So the bottom has fallen out of the mini market.

But who knows what the marketing wonks at Apple will decide. The mini sure has not been getting much love.

The iPad mini is quite a cheap device especially vs iPhone +. Besides, as @richlum remarks rightly, iPhones don't run iPad apps. I'm thinking Apple is just killing the small form factor because it was not profitable enough.

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ExAsperis99

@mannix said:

@rickwaugh said:

@richlum said:

@rickwaugh said:
I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

Problem is that ipad only apps don't work on iphone+.

I would buy an updated ipad mini just so I could use Cubasis on something more portable than a 10" ipad

Apple just responds to the market. The problem is that the vast majority of people use their iOS devices for only browsing the web and playing games. And they can do that fine on the +, and not have to buy an iPad, and a phone too. So the bottom has fallen out of the mini market.

But who knows what the marketing wonks at Apple will decide. The mini sure has not been getting much love.

The iPad mini is quite a cheap device especially vs iPhone +. Besides, as @richlum remarks rightly, iPhones don't run iPad apps. I'm thinking Apple is just killing the small form factor because it was not profitable enough.

Which would be the wise business decision, you'll agree.

mannix

@Max23 said:
Won’t happen.
The pros have a „fullscreen keyboard“ ...
and splitscreen is kind of arrrrgh on the mini format ...
New formats are 10.5 and 12.9
That’s much more IBM like ...
9.7 will be around for a little longer to keep costs low
Mini EOL

Also iPad apps get smaller GUI elements, so yes you need a bigger screen. Looks like apps start to mimic the full grown MAcOS and Windows style of software, and that's a bad sign. Because a mouse just works more precise. Apps on touchscreen devices should be made with touchscreen in the back of the head of the devs.

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mannix

@Max23 said:

@mannix said:

@Max23 said:
Won’t happen.
The pros have a „fullscreen keyboard“ ...
and splitscreen is kind of arrrrgh on the mini format ...
New formats are 10.5 and 12.9
That’s much more IBM like ...
9.7 will be around for a little longer to keep costs low
Mini EOL

Also iPad apps get smaller GUI elements, so yes you need a bigger screen. Looks like apps strat to mimic the full grown MAcOS and Windows style of software, and that's a bad sign. Because a mouse just works more precise. Apps on touchscreen devices should be made with touchscreen in the back of the head of the devs.

UI on mini is exactly the same as on 9.7 ... its just scaled down
UIs can get bigger now because there is much more screen to fill
10.5 vs. 9.7 is almost 20 % more ..

My point is that I don't need more functions per pixel. I rather like bigger buttons and more intuitive GUIs to control instruments or effects and not just more AU complex instruments or fxs. For the last category I'll just use a computer. I think the way iOS audio apps are developing in general is a real dead end. The only benefit seems nowadays that the apps you get are so much cheaper than on MacOS, but the handeling is so much more clumsy.

Lacm1993

The iPad mini it’s dead.

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kagamul

The iPad mini 4 is my favorite! It is small enough to take anywhere and still big enough for me to work!
Also, the size is perfect for reading ebooks.

I'm dreaming of an iPad Mini Pro that works with the Pencil.

You can dream.

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[Deleted User]

@mannix said:

@Max23 said:

@mannix said:

@Max23 said:
Won’t happen.
The pros have a „fullscreen keyboard“ ...
and splitscreen is kind of arrrrgh on the mini format ...
New formats are 10.5 and 12.9
That’s much more IBM like ...
9.7 will be around for a little longer to keep costs low
Mini EOL

Also iPad apps get smaller GUI elements, so yes you need a bigger screen. Looks like apps strat to mimic the full grown MAcOS and Windows style of software, and that's a bad sign. Because a mouse just works more precise. Apps on touchscreen devices should be made with touchscreen in the back of the head of the devs.

UI on mini is exactly the same as on 9.7 ... its just scaled down
UIs can get bigger now because there is much more screen to fill
10.5 vs. 9.7 is almost 20 % more ..

My point is that I don't need more functions per pixel. I rather like bigger buttons and more intuitive GUIs to control instruments or effects and not just more AU complex instruments or fxs. For the last category I'll just use a computer. I think the way iOS audio apps are developing in general is a real dead end. The only benefit seems nowadays that the apps you get are so much cheaper than on MacOS, but the handeling is so much more clumsy.

I agree here. For some reasons i find touch screens not anymore a joy to use. I‘m so much faster with a trackpad and keyboard.

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@ExAsperis99 said:

@Dubbylabby said:

@rickwaugh said:

@richlum said:

@rickwaugh said:
I believe the iPad mini has been effectively killed off by the iPhone + models. I don't think there's been any official announcement.

Problem is that ipad only apps don't work on iphone+.

I would buy an updated ipad mini just so I could use Cubasis on something more portable than a 10" ipad

Apple just responds to the market. The problem is that the vast majority of people use their iOS devices for only browsing the web and playing games. And they can do that fine on the +, and not have to buy an iPad, and a phone too. So the bottom has fallen out of the mini market.

But who knows what the marketing wonks at Apple will decide. The mini sure has not been getting much love.

And that’s why I repurpose old iDevices as standalone and my iPad mini4 will be the last I probably buy. Time to look into dedicated hardware and avoid Apple products...

I'm not quite ready to abandon the iPad, but it does occur to me that a Digitakt will last longer than an iPad by some margin.

I wasn’t neither but Apple last movements made wonder even left musicmaking... or almost with computers. I look time to time into arrangers, workstations and grooveboxes and lately price plus stability are looking better into my eyes. Fantoms, microarranger, MC909... all under 400-500€ on my area...