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iCA4+ or AudioFuse? Multiple Musician Interface Suggestions?
I am looking to upgrade my audio interface, from one that suits a solo artist to one that can facilitate multiple people. These two are what I’ve boiled my decision down to, based on my current gear and budget. I have a MacBook Pro running ableton and/or logic. I have 2 Launchpad Pro’s, a Push 2, an iPad air2, iPad Mini and an iPad Pro 12.9. I want to be able to use all my iPads, Lauchpads, vocal mics, guitar, etc...simultaneously with Ableton and/or Logic. I am leaning towards the iConnectivityA4+ because of its routing and multiple inputs and my assorted instrument jam sessions with a multi percussionist into Ableton, but the AudioFuse also has some great multiple output options as well. Also anyone with experience with a higher i/o interface working with multiple musicians have any recommendations or advice? (Individual mics routed, hp out>Headphone mixer > click outs etc ) Or can I use the one of the 2 previously mentioned interfaces (which have great usb options) combined with a mixer to achieve the same result as a high input interface in a band situation? Our jams are right on point...And we have most the gear we need, minus a powerful interface to be able to facilitate all the idevices, launch pads, mics etc. in a cohesive manner. Help me my Audiobus Brothers and Sisters!!! 
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Hi, one possible solution would be to run Ableton with Studiomux into Ableton with each of your iPads running an instance of Studiomux, and each plugged in to your laptop via USB. You could then jam with all three synced up with Ableton Link. I have run jams successfully like this with an iPhone, an iPad 4, and an iPad air, all recording into Ableton on seperate tracks. Studiomux can seem a little complicated at first but once you get your head round it, it's actually quite straight forward, this way you don't need lots of hardware mixers. You will also need an audio interface of some sort, but you wouldn't need one with a massive amount of inputs.......at least studiomux would take care of the iPads, and in pristine quality..........ADAT in on your audio interface is a a good option to consider having as you can then expand the number of inputs relatively cheaply when you need them........i have an RME babyface portable interface which i expand via ADAT when i need to.........(EDIT) Ha! i just re-read your post, and realized everything i just wrote might be completely useless to you......i don't know how many USB inputs there are on your laptop are there any? oh well....i can recommend the Focusrite 18i20 i have one and it's pretty good.....good value for money too......sorry it's late here (or early) good luck with it all!.....do loads of research, and then shop around......cheers.........
Neither have many inputs and thus are not suitable for multitrack recordings.
I agree with @Iso , it will sound great if you can keep the ipads in the digital realm, and connect to your laptop direct with USB. I'd just get a mondo powered usb hub for all your ipads and USB shit. You can do midi over the usb as well, which will cut down on cables.
Are you thinking of using Ableton as your mixer? If so, something like the Kmix could be handy, it is an 8 in audio interface that can also work as a midi controller, to control the mixer in your DAW. It just does MIDI control I think, not Mackie HUI, which is slicker, but as far as I know, nothing compact is an audio interface and HUI.
The Kmix would be interesting, because (kmix owners please chime in) I believe, ideally, you could set some of the channels as midi controllers for channels in your DAW software, but with other channels, control your mic/guitar channels in the mixer, which is best for keeping latency down, which would good for guitar, vital for percussion.
I love iCA4+, but it solves problems you don't have (ipad to ipad audio<>, sans laptop) and doesn't solve other problems you do have ( hosting launchpads, 4 ipads connecting to a computer).
Could you be more specific about the set up?
Studio or live?
Do you want other musicians just recorded alongside or do you also want to sample/loop their instruments in real time?
From what I understood so far is the you need one interface just for you and another multiple input one for the rest. As @ToMess suggested neither of these have many inputs. I guess iconnect is more flexible with pass through that could be used for plugging in your existing interface ro avoid doubling latency. You'll still need a mixer in front of it but then you're not recording tracks separately but maybe you don't need everything on separate tracks?
Is it just jams or you're thinking of recording an album?
For a considered advice some information about app communication between the IOS devices is required - unless each iPad is handled as a single stereo output pair.
(assuming that the DAW on Macbook is the recording destination)
The Air-2 and Mini would work with their inbuilt output as stereo sources, but the iPad Pro requires an interface.
Apple added extensive processing to it's output (as recently reported in another thread).
Regarding microphone input for the band: don't record the drums individually but prefer a 2-3 mic approch as is recorderman or similiar techniques. Otherwise bleed will drive you nuts if you're not in a studio with full acoustic treatment.
For the band scenario you may check the Presonus Stuiolive USB, though it doesn't cover full individual monitoring (supplies 4 individual mono outs or 2 stereo, plus the main headphone mix), quite affordable for the features offered.
https://www.presonus.com/products/studiolive-16.0.2-usb
I wouldn't rely on a software only solution for such a complex setup in a live situation.
Add an iCA for the iPads (2 on the USB ports, 3rd on analog input).
In the studio you may use it as 'aggregated' within the MacBook, live use the 2 analog pairs.
It's not the most cheapo solution, but reliable and rather easy to setup and control.
ps: I run a multi-route setup with an iCA4+, a ProTools TDM and 2 Windoze DAWs with a Creamware DSP system and an Audient ID22 - routing is rarely as smooth as advertised - let alone to get the shit perfectly aligned and latency compensated.
(which is totally impossible atm with IOS, at least imh experience)
ICA4 + a quality mixer (eg: Allen and Heath) - really there is no other options with all that you want to achieve
If you want more inputs, I can recommend the Zoom UAC-8 and the powered lightning Camera Connection Kit.
Great sound, flawless 8-track recording and playback (I mostly use Audio Evolution Mobile with it), and good drivers for Win and Mac too, giving you very low latency. I love it. Got it for $349 on a sale, otherwise I might have ordered the ICA4+ too. With iOS USB Audio/Midi available, I cannot say that I miss the ICA4+.
You have multiple iPads and you cannot connect more than one to the ICA4+ anyway.
Sure, no problem...
Thanks guys already some great advice… I guess I should be a little bit more specific. This is really about live performance more so than recording. The goal is to have everything (or mostly everything) running through Ableton to where myself and 1-2 people could loop and sample things live. Most the time the backbone of a song will start from Ableton session view... from there I can use the Push 2’s two sustain pedal outs to loop with a footpedal, also another footpedal going over to the percussionist so he could loop certain mic’d instruments also. However I want to be able to use my Launchpad pros (in standalone midi mode) hooked up to my iPads, and myself and another person be able to play them and loop things as well into the mix.
Thanks Ableton we have LINK
Your set up is hurting my brain now! The one thing i do know, is that for live work, use the best equipment that you can afford. A high quality mixer, and a high quality audio interface would be a good place to start. The number of inputs/outputs etc is as long as a a piece of string really. Work out how many you need, and then add a few more.......you will always need more..........Ableton Link will work for syncing it all, but you will need a WIFI network, either the venues, or one you make yourself with a Hotspot........
you could use IDAM to connect all the ipads, aggregated with whatever audio/midi interfaces you want for analog connections. all that usb might be brittle.
We're already ready using Link via my mobile hotspot hub when not at my house....so that's covered.
Already have an 8 channel powered mixer and another small 4 channel mixer....thats covered.
The live looping with the Push 2/Ableton is already worked out for the most part... It's the other iPads and launchpads that I want to be able to Loop into Ableton... For now they are going into a mixer being played as is on top of Abletons output. One ipad/launchpad combo is going into a TC Helicon loop pedal with Midi Link Sync running into it's midi port keeping it in time, but it doesn't always loop right, that's why I would like all the looping to happen inside of Ableton alone.
So my original question is really about finding an interface that can pull this off.
Interesting. Can you send me a link?
i really dunno of a relevant link regarding IDAM, not thatbmuch to tell. try plugging an ios device into a mac, then enabling it in the audio midi setup app. be on latest OS on both sides for best results.
Sounds like a really great, and well thought out system........always hard to work out how much knowledge someone has......so going back to my original answer, Studiomux may well be your missing link, (no pun intended ) you can route midi through it from all your various midi devices and Ableton Live on your MacBook pro..........i use it with a Push 2 & several other midi controllers and it works well. I have never used a Launchpad pro, but if it is a midi controller like the Push, i see no reason why this wouldn't work.....hope this is of some small help to you, although i am concerned that i may just be clouding the issue further! .....Good Luck........
Thank you. Yeah actually this MacBook Pro is the first Mac I have ever owned after 35 years of being a PC user! I'm really enjoying it. It's smooth as butter!
I didn't even know about IDAM...I will definitely look into it.
Yeah it's been really fun working on this project. I finally got my hardheaded drummer friend interested in Ableton and taking part in the loop process too, and it's just been awesome ever since. Now he just wants keep miccing everything and anything.
I do appreciate the input man, every little bit helps. Studiomux been on my radar just haven't dove in yet... still learning the ins and outs of this Push 2 as well.
Ahhh! A Drummer with an insatiable appetite for micing everything up, hence the need for more & more inputs. Now i understand! Looks like you might be needing that ADAT pre-amp after all.......The Behringer ADA8000/82000 always gets really good reviews from users despite it's low price, and Behringer's bad rep for quality....that and a decent interface (with ADAT ) + Studiomux might be the way forward........