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OT - Logic 10.3.3

edited December 2017 in Other

A lot bug fixes and stuff and it support up to 36 cores :o
The new high resolution (for the string) mode from Sculpture is especially interesting for me.
They also updated Final Cut.....so Apple still care for their pro users.....a bit :#
https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT203718

Comments

  • The 36 cores is for the new maxed out iMac Pro's :D

  • @Samu said:
    The 36 cores is for the new maxed out iMac Pro's :D

    I know.....but it will costs more than my car (when it was new) maybe :)
    I still wait for 6-8 core macbook pro. Intel is slowing the game here. I wish Apple would ditch them finally.
    Just put 8 A11X cores into it :D (i know it is not so easy in reality).

  • 'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

  • Cool updates. Love the new color grading and white balance in FCPX. Nice to see further investments in Logic. The team is on point. I’m hoping more of the compressor types make it to GarageBand iOS

  • @Samu said:
    'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

    That would make me invest into another iPad, too.
    But with FlexPitch, please

    Or probably Flex-Bitch? B)

  • edited December 2017

    @Samu said:
    'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

    I don´t think. Even 15" are a bit too small for me. Logic really doesn´t fit on an idevice.
    The 12.9" would also be my prefered iPad size now but after i tested one for a while and was amazed it was just the first effect and then i realized that it isn´t made for such stuff.
    There are better iOS DAW´s anyway for multi-touch. The big stuff is for the big machines.

  • I would love to see better stability of connecting LogicRemote

  • @teleb said:
    I would love to see better stability of connecting LogicRemote

    I gave up to connect anything for now. I got strange latency after a while if i use my iPhone as audio device and these days i prefer to just use my iPhone or i just use my macbook pro. Strange, i mostly even play my midi on the macbook keyboard because i´m too lazy to connect my Seaboard Rise (anyway not happy with Roli´s way too).

  • @Cib said:

    @Samu said:
    'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

    I don´t think. Even 15" are a bit too small for me. Logic really doesn´t fit on an idevice.
    The 12.9" would also be my prefered iPad size now but after i tested one for a while and was amazed it was just the first effect and then i realized that it isn´t made for such stuff.
    There are better iOS DAW´s anyway for multi-touch. The big stuff is for the big machines.

    Did you try GarageBand or another iOS DAW?. On a 12.9 iPad Pro I can see how most of Logic can be re-imagined. They are definitely on the right track with the GUI decisions right now in GB iOS

  • @teleb said:

    @Samu said:
    'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

    That would make me invest into another iPad, too.
    But with FlexPitch, please

    Or probably Flex-Bitch? B)

    Flex-pitch would be unfair to the competition. But I’ll take it!

  • @realdavidai said:

    @Cib said:

    @Samu said:
    'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

    I don´t think. Even 15" are a bit too small for me. Logic really doesn´t fit on an idevice.
    The 12.9" would also be my prefered iPad size now but after i tested one for a while and was amazed it was just the first effect and then i realized that it isn´t made for such stuff.
    There are better iOS DAW´s anyway for multi-touch. The big stuff is for the big machines.

    Did you try GarageBand or another iOS DAW?. On a 12.9 iPad Pro I can see how most of Logic can be re-imagined. They are definitely on the right track with the GUI decisions right now in GB iOS

    Sure. Garage Band was the first and i like it really on those touch devices. But Logic has so much more and the workflow like it is now is close to perfect (at least for me) for a notebook (or desktop).
    Of course they could put maybe a lot of it´s features in an iOS version but that would need a complete new GUI for a lot of Logic´s tools and still you would might have tons of menus submenus and whatever.
    I still wonder why people want such a complex DAW on an iPad. I don´t think it would be a joy to use.
    First GarageBand iOS would need to step up to the mac version. Then Mainstage would make more sense and then maybe a speced down version of Logic.
    But do we really think that a full Cubase would run great on an iPad too? There is a reason there is just Cubasis (beside the marketing decisions).
    For me it would be like watching all my movies on a little smartphone screen and listening to compressed music all the time with crap headphones instead of using my 55" 4K OLED TV or great headphones on a powerful machine which can drive them. A reason i still see a lot more value if i could get all my iOS apps in the mac app store. I would pay more there since i can make much more use of them and everything just is faster and works better together.

  • edited December 2017

    X86 machines are doomed. Probably any Apple x86 tool will be ported into service on demand from remote servers before we see them running on iPad.

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/cloud-gaming.html

    https://www.macincloud.com/

  • @Cib said:

    @realdavidai said:

    @Cib said:

    @Samu said:
    'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

    I don´t think. Even 15" are a bit too small for me. Logic really doesn´t fit on an idevice.
    The 12.9" would also be my prefered iPad size now but after i tested one for a while and was amazed it was just the first effect and then i realized that it isn´t made for such stuff.
    There are better iOS DAW´s anyway for multi-touch. The big stuff is for the big machines.

    Did you try GarageBand or another iOS DAW?. On a 12.9 iPad Pro I can see how most of Logic can be re-imagined. They are definitely on the right track with the GUI decisions right now in GB iOS

    Sure. Garage Band was the first and i like it really on those touch devices. But Logic has so much more and the workflow like it is now is close to perfect (at least for me) for a notebook (or desktop).
    Of course they could put maybe a lot of it´s features in an iOS version but that would need a complete new GUI for a lot of Logic´s tools and still you would might have tons of menus submenus and whatever.
    I still wonder why people want such a complex DAW on an iPad. I don´t think it would be a joy to use.
    First GarageBand iOS would need to step up to the mac version. Then Mainstage would make more sense and then maybe a speced down version of Logic.
    But do we really think that a full Cubase would run great on an iPad too? There is a reason there is just Cubasis (beside the marketing decisions).
    For me it would be like watching all my movies on a little smartphone screen and listening to compressed music all the time with crap headphones instead of using my 55" 4K OLED TV or great headphones on a powerful machine which can drive them. A reason i still see a lot more value if i could get all my iOS apps in the mac app store. I would pay more there since i can make much more use of them and everything just is faster and works better together.

    What specific features do you love in Logic that wouldn’t work in the current GUI paradigm in Garageband iOS? I have a 27inch Retina iMac 5k. and definitely GarageBand on 12.9 iPad Pro is more of a joy to use. By far actually for composition. Mixing not yet, but only a couple features away.

    Also 55 inch TV I have is cool when watching TV with the people but when alone I watch shows almost always on iPhone 7Plus while the TV sits there lonely playing Apple TV screen savers.

  • @realdavidai said:

    @Cib said:

    @realdavidai said:

    @Cib said:

    @Samu said:
    'Logic for iPad' would be more my tune :)
    (Or 'GarageBand Pro'). That would make me get a new 12,9" iPad or something....

    I don´t think. Even 15" are a bit too small for me. Logic really doesn´t fit on an idevice.
    The 12.9" would also be my prefered iPad size now but after i tested one for a while and was amazed it was just the first effect and then i realized that it isn´t made for such stuff.
    There are better iOS DAW´s anyway for multi-touch. The big stuff is for the big machines.

    Did you try GarageBand or another iOS DAW?. On a 12.9 iPad Pro I can see how most of Logic can be re-imagined. They are definitely on the right track with the GUI decisions right now in GB iOS

    Sure. Garage Band was the first and i like it really on those touch devices. But Logic has so much more and the workflow like it is now is close to perfect (at least for me) for a notebook (or desktop).
    Of course they could put maybe a lot of it´s features in an iOS version but that would need a complete new GUI for a lot of Logic´s tools and still you would might have tons of menus submenus and whatever.
    I still wonder why people want such a complex DAW on an iPad. I don´t think it would be a joy to use.
    First GarageBand iOS would need to step up to the mac version. Then Mainstage would make more sense and then maybe a speced down version of Logic.
    But do we really think that a full Cubase would run great on an iPad too? There is a reason there is just Cubasis (beside the marketing decisions).
    For me it would be like watching all my movies on a little smartphone screen and listening to compressed music all the time with crap headphones instead of using my 55" 4K OLED TV or great headphones on a powerful machine which can drive them. A reason i still see a lot more value if i could get all my iOS apps in the mac app store. I would pay more there since i can make much more use of them and everything just is faster and works better together.

    What specific features do you love in Logic that wouldn’t work in the current GUI paradigm in Garageband iOS? I have a 27inch Retina iMac 5k. and definitely GarageBand on 12.9 iPad Pro is more of a joy to use. By far actually for composition. Mixing not yet, but only a couple features away.

    Also 55 inch TV I have is cool when watching TV with the people but when alone I watch shows almost always on iPhone 7Plus while the TV sits there lonely playing Apple TV screen savers.

    Our workflows and likings might be totally different. And that is O.K. of course as long as we are happy with what we have and enjoy it.
    About Logic....my favorite synth there alone.....Sculpture. In general the workflow. Midi FX. Stacked tracks, all my third party plug-ins integrated with all the automations. Editing of automations. Drop and drag midi and audio directly into plug-ins and/or a midi/audio track. I can save a multi-instrument (like a huge AUM set-up with midi) and can copy, recall change parts of it in seconds etc. Alone Logic´s arp is better than most things i used on iOS and even that is so crippled in the iOS version. Indeed there is about 50% of Logic which looks almost like it is made also for a touch screen but i don´t think that touch-screens are the best way for everything. I was a hardcore mobile musician when iOS evolved into a great music making machine but then i wanted more and found it on mac.
    I love crazy, creative and high quality FX and there isn´t much in iOS yet.
    What will be in 5, 10, 15 years....not sure but i want to enjoy it right now, before the next best thing comes out.
    The worst thing maybe is the whole apps tore economy and the dead end for pro apps (my opinion).
    Shorter said, for me it´s just the whole experience and what i want to do with music. My favorite tools are not there and might never be (or for a long time).
    I´m a Netflix junkie and i even don´t like to see this stuff on my 15" macbook.
    I´m a audio visual man :p And i want to enjoy things as much as i can before it´s over one day. Because of that i spend my saved money for my next macbook now for a new TV. It made me happy and i feels the money was well spend. But who knows, maybe i will buy an iPad Pro 2018 or 2019, if i can still afford them by the time, who knows.

  • I was hoping Logic would get the beat sequencer and live loops from Garageband ios. We can only dream.

  • edited December 2017

    @Cib said:

    @teleb said:
    I would love to see better stability of connecting LogicRemote

    I gave up to connect anything for now. I got strange latency after a while if i use my iPhone as audio device and these days i prefer to just use my iPhone or i just use my macbook pro. Strange, i mostly even play my midi on the macbook keyboard because i´m too lazy to connect my Seaboard Rise (anyway not happy with Roli´s way too).

    I know it can't fit every type of workflow, mainly because it takes down yet another usb port, but I use my ipad plugged direct to the macbook, and it makes the Logic Remote my favorite interface.

    Also, being able to now send midi out to the ipad, and audio and midi back to Logic with IDAM in ios 11 is keeping these two linked 90% of the time that I'm using Logic.

    I'm still on Sierra, and while I thought I had to upgrade to High Sierra in order to use this, I could have been doing it for a month before since it was enabled in iOS11.

    By the way, I had tried doing the wifi connection for Logic Remote before but it was way too unreliable. Just a note to those who haven't tried it lately, plugging it in completely fixes that reliability, and keeps it charged at the same time.

    Also, while I'm here, it would seem very "logical" to me if the Beat Sequencer, as well as Live Loops were actually built into the Logic Remote rather than Logic itself, since they really are just midi/event instruments ultimately, not to mention already coded on iOS within Garageband, so the code would just need to be shared with the Remote, just like the instrument interfaces are now.

  • Yeah, I'm thinking this isn't a major update, especially since the newer kits for Beat Sequencer in Garageband iOS aren't included, such as my favorite "Bumper". This was more of an iMac Pro launch thing. If history is any guide, 10.4 in January sometime. 10.3 was mid-january this past year.

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