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DELUGE: Did we talk about this? This is crazy

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  • Pierre118Pierre118

    @echoopera said:
    We all have our ideals of what works for us. At the end of the day all that matters is that your creativity has a conduit to be expressed :smile:

    Use that which helps to manifest the music you have inside I always say :wink:

    I don't have time to defend my workflow to people :blush:

    Why do you feel you're being attacked? It's an other opinion, nothing more.

  • Telstar5Telstar5

    @echoopera : You don’t have to since #1 , you produce more and better music than most and #2… Deluge has proven itself in that you buy it ONCE.. (They even retrofitted the screen for a paltry $149). It’s a purchase you can never regret . It also leaves you iPad free for other things CPU wise .

  • ExAsperis99ExAsperis99

    @SevenSystems said:

    @echoopera said:
    @SevenSystems you are missing something :wink: The iPad Pro is fantastic, but it's a time sucker when wanting to focus on music since it's so expansive and flexible. 3 minutes on Twitter, 5 Minutes on the web, 10 Minutes on AB forums...all add up and take time away from composing...but we all know this.

    OK, but that's a psychological problem, not a technical one. iOS doesn't force you to use anything other than music apps (mostly) ;)

    The Deluge brings all the best of what a groove box is into a single instrument.

    But doesn't, for example, Korg Gadget do that too, but with a far better user interface, especially for sequencing?

    What an amusing thought. I'm sure out of professional modesty you didn't suggest Xequence, but you seem like somebody who has used hardware before. Surely you're aware that tactility has a lot to do with inspiration.

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited September 2022

    @Pierre118 said:

    @echoopera said:
    We all have our ideals of what works for us. At the end of the day all that matters is that your creativity has a conduit to be expressed :smile:

    Use that which helps to manifest the music you have inside I always say :wink:

    I don't have time to defend my workflow to people :blush:

    Why do you feel you're being attacked? It's an other opinion, nothing more.

    I don't feel that way. I am merely stating that I don't have the time to debate why I use the HW and SW I use regularly.

    I loathe such debates as I find them quite pointless and distracting...that's all.

    I don't have to adopt someones opinion just because they have one. If I did, I'd be making bubble gum Pop Songs to make money instead of making the music I enjoy creating :wink:

    Hopefully that clears the air :smiley:

    Now..back to pushing blinking buttons to make music :wink:

  • SevenSystemsSevenSystems

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @echoopera said:
    @SevenSystems you are missing something :wink: The iPad Pro is fantastic, but it's a time sucker when wanting to focus on music since it's so expansive and flexible. 3 minutes on Twitter, 5 Minutes on the web, 10 Minutes on AB forums...all add up and take time away from composing...but we all know this.

    OK, but that's a psychological problem, not a technical one. iOS doesn't force you to use anything other than music apps (mostly) ;)

    The Deluge brings all the best of what a groove box is into a single instrument.

    But doesn't, for example, Korg Gadget do that too, but with a far better user interface, especially for sequencing?

    What an amusing thought. I'm sure out of professional modesty you didn't suggest Xequence

    Maybe, but thanks for mentioning it anyway :D

    but you seem like somebody who has used hardware before. Surely you're aware that tactility has a lot to do with inspiration.

    Yes, to a degree. I would agree that eg. a hardware fader bank that connects to an iPad is a good investment. It brings the tactility without sacrificing efficiency. But sequencing and arranging entire songs via a small matrix of backlit buttons and a few rotary encoders can't be as efficient (or enjoyable, probably) as a 13" 4 megapixel touch screen. (I've actually tried doing this on my Yamaha SY-85 back in 1997, which had a song mode and editor. I hated my life and that display was like 10 times bigger than the Deluge's).

    @echoopera said:
    I loathe such debates as I find them quite pointless and distracting...that's all.

    Well, they're not pointless, but they may surely be distracting. So. Make music however you enjoy it! :)

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited September 2022

    @SevenSystems said:

    @echoopera said:
    I loathe such debates as I find them quite pointless and distracting...that's all.

    Well, they're not pointless, but they may surely be distracting. So. Make music however you enjoy it! :)

    Eureka!!

    Now you get it :smiley:

    Anyhoo...for anybody else interested in the music I'm making with the setup, here's a little loop I made using the Deluge and the iPad to create a mood. Feel free to use the Loop if you like the vibe.

    https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0adEvlJLkWeCXaMBaVANDbTgg#Wishful_Thinking_Loop

    Cheers.

  • echooperaechoopera

    Thanks Deluge for helping me make this track:

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  • yokotateyokotate

    @echoopera said:
    Thanks Deluge for helping me make this track:

    Very nice track! I’m sure you’ll put the Deluge to good use for many years to come. It’s a tool that really keeps on giving. The only thing I wasn’t so keen about is/was the old screen. I can’t wait to get my Deluge fitted with the new one.

  • echooperaechoopera

    @yokotate said:

    @echoopera said:
    Thanks Deluge for helping me make this track:

    Very nice track! I’m sure you’ll put the Deluge to good use for many years to come. It’s a tool that really keeps on giving. The only thing I wasn’t so keen about is/was the old screen. I can’t wait to get my Deluge fitted with the new one.

    Thank you. Yeah the old screen kind of scared me since I’m a very visual person who likes readable feedback. I think you’ll like the new OLED. As a new user it’s made learning the Deluge a lot more usable and approachable.

    This is quite possibly the best piece of hardware I’ve purchased to date…they really made something special with the Deluge.

  • Michael_R_GrantMichael_R_Grant

    Glad to see you on board, @echoopera! I'm really looking forward to getting my screen retrofitted, hopefully in November.

  • ObliqueOblique

    I used to have the same opinion but after 10 years of putting up with Apple’s forced obsoletion / having to upgrade hardware to run the latest apps and screwing developers into abandonware etc. etc. I think very differently. If I buy the cheapest iPad there is enough money left to buy some really cool hardware. And I still get to play angry birds!

    @SevenSystems said:
    Maybe I'm missing something.

    For the price, you can get one of the more expensive iPad Pro models plus a good set of professional music apps, which offer far more flexibility and a better user interface. Also, as a bonus, you can browse the internet, take and manage photos, receive and send emails, doodle, manage and listen to your music, play Angry Birds, and about a zillion other things.

    Who is the target audience for a device like this?

    @SevenSystems said:
    Maybe I'm missing something.

    For the price, you can get one of the more expensive iPad Pro models plus a good set of professional music apps, which offer far more flexibility and a better user interface. Also, as a bonus, you can browse the internet, take and manage photos, receive and send emails, doodle, manage and listen to your music, play Angry Birds, and about a zillion other things.

    Who is the target audience for a device like this?

  • echooperaechoopera

    @Michael_R_Grant said:
    Glad to see you on board, @echoopera! I'm really looking forward to getting my screen retrofitted, hopefully in November.

    Oh cool. It’s cool finding out about others who have this magical unicorn. I wish i hadn’t slept on it so long. It really is amazing.

  • echooperaechoopera

    Happy Friday everyone. Hope you enjoy this little groove:

  • echooperaechoopera

    Another day some more Deluge doing it’s thing with the iPad:

  • echooperaechoopera

    Everyday i get a little bit more comfortable with the Deluge, so today i am introducing it to Ableton:

  • echooperaechoopera

    Here's a little Looping result from this glorious union:
    https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/017DH2iJTMVtd5hYyhxkz7LTQ#Views_from_Infinity-Loop-C_Lydian_85bpm

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo
    edited October 2022

    @echoopera said:
    Another day some more Deluge doing it’s thing with the iPad:

    Not that I’ve ever heard anything bad from you’re equipment laden self ;) but this is one of my favorites.

    I might just pester you for some setup details. I’ve been trying to find a pairing of iPad and deluge that works for me, but I haven’t been able to figure which way to route them D to P or P to D. I’ll be getting a WIDI for the Deluge so that will simplify some hardware routing (and maybe make it bi-directional)

    Ultimately I’d like to have the flexibility and spontaneity of iPad sequencing that gets “recorded” (midi and/or sound) into the deluge and use it to then sequence and play back tracks (compose) with additional deluge synth and drum support, while leaving the iPad on sound module duty.

    (I think that was a run on sentence)

    I’ve also got a small mixer and a few other pieces of gear (moog meeblip and Norns) to work into the setup, but one thing at a time.

    Which way do you do things? Which is your primary controller? Have you recorded Midi sequences from the iPad into the deluge?

    Again, super lovely track

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited October 2022

    Thanks for giving the track a listen.

    For the iPad+Deluge Setup I usually run it with the CME BT Midi connector and run audio out over USB-C and into the Deluge. It works as a self contained environment.

    When connected to the laptop, I just run audio out of my MacBook and into the Deluge.

    I'll try and record a video this weekend on the setup process. I find that saving an 'AUDIO-IN' template on the Deluge helps when you come back to the Deluge, so you just Load it, Save, Rename and get on with it.

    Here are the details on accessories I am using for the rig:

    CME BT Midi:
    https://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-Wireless-Adapter-Interface-Converter/dp/B08F8F57JX?ref_=ast_sto_dp&th=1

    Audio over USB-C for the iPad to Deluge connection:
    https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Charger-Adapter-Charging-Compatible/dp/B09GYRH6YM?pd_rd_w=ZEF8N&content-id=amzn1.sym.deffa092-2e99-4e9f-b814-0d71c40b24af&pf_rd_p=deffa092-2e99-4e9f-b814-0d71c40b24af&pf_rd_r=H5W7H5T0AVDPWAW3AJX2&pd_rd_wg=4rZmF&pd_rd_r=8562ce7b-5d71-46c4-92e8-41145e9c47f8&pd_rd_i=B09GYRH6YM&psc=1&ref_=pd_bap_d_rp_53_t

    3.5mm Aux Cables:
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07FB7ZTWL?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details

    Hope that helps.

    Also, as far as the other pieces of kit, just send it all in to the mixer, and if you have an AUX send on it, patch that in to the Deluge to Capture things...just remember to mute the Deluge on the mixer when recording...or else FEEEEEEEDBACK...which could be cool depending on what you're doing. :)
    Deluge + iPad + Moog + MeeBlip > Mixer > Speakers ++ AUX > Deluge (Mute Deluge on Mixer when recording to Deluge)

    And if you don't have an AUX Send, just place the Deluge as the last in the chain, and send audio out from the Deluge to your speakers, headphones and feed the Mixer into the Deluge...which will now become your Sequencing and RECORDING device :)
    iPad + Moog + MeeBlip > Mixer > Deluge (Play + Sequence + Record) > Speakers+Headphones

  • audiblevideoaudiblevideo

    @echoopera thank you so much 😊

  • rs2000rs2000

    @SevenSystems said:

    @ExAsperis99 said:

    @SevenSystems said:

    @echoopera said:
    @SevenSystems you are missing something :wink: The iPad Pro is fantastic, but it's a time sucker when wanting to focus on music since it's so expansive and flexible. 3 minutes on Twitter, 5 Minutes on the web, 10 Minutes on AB forums...all add up and take time away from composing...but we all know this.

    OK, but that's a psychological problem, not a technical one. iOS doesn't force you to use anything other than music apps (mostly) ;)

    The Deluge brings all the best of what a groove box is into a single instrument.

    But doesn't, for example, Korg Gadget do that too, but with a far better user interface, especially for sequencing?

    What an amusing thought. I'm sure out of professional modesty you didn't suggest Xequence

    Maybe, but thanks for mentioning it anyway :D

    but you seem like somebody who has used hardware before. Surely you're aware that tactility has a lot to do with inspiration.

    Yes, to a degree. I would agree that eg. a hardware fader bank that connects to an iPad is a good investment. It brings the tactility without sacrificing efficiency. But sequencing and arranging entire songs via a small matrix of backlit buttons and a few rotary encoders can't be as efficient (or enjoyable, probably) as a 13" 4 megapixel touch screen. (I've actually tried doing this on my Yamaha SY-85 back in 1997, which had a song mode and editor. I hated my life and that display was like 10 times bigger than the Deluge's).

    @echoopera said:
    I loathe such debates as I find them quite pointless and distracting...that's all.

    Well, they're not pointless, but they may surely be distracting. So. Make music however you enjoy it! :)

    Although I'm moving away from hardware more and more, I must say that operating any hardware box versus iPad apps is not about features, it's much more about adapting to a specific workflow pre-defined by the developer team who made the box.

    The deluge is a very special one in my book because it's quite the opposite of an iPad with a large collection of music apps. It's a box with extremely limited controls (you basically have to do everything with buttons) and what the developers did looks like the kind of result you get when you lock somebody into a clean room for 10 years with only water, bread and oxygen.
    An incredible set of ideas burnt into the firmware, showing what's possible if a team puts enough dedication into creating a user interface for an ever growing feature set that an average guy would call impossible to handle without a proper graphic display.

    It forces you to think in a totally different way and that alone can be a huge gateway into inspiration.

    It's hard to compare the two without getting your hands on the hardware and learning enough to make some music with it.

  • echooperaechoopera

    An afternoon with Deluge is one well spent:

  • echooperaechoopera

    Another day another Deluge track:

    Thanks as always :)

  • KJH808KJH808

    @RUST( i )K said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @RUST( i )K said:

    @Littlewoodg said:
    Oh my yes. Website says in stock...

    Did you know about this Greg?

    New to me, till your post. I’d consider this and skip the iPad upgrade I was thinking about...but the next teenage engineer thang, OP-Z is also tempting,

    @Kühl said:
    OMG wet dreams before Xmas

    This has totally fuct my plans.

    Now tell wife- "oh maybe return Circuit and MPC along with all the wires so I can get this........"

    That would go over well.

    Ahhh the plans of musicians and men 😂🤣😂

  • KJH808KJH808

    @RUST( i )K said:

    @Littlewoodg said:

    @RUST( i )K said:

    @Littlewoodg said:
    Oh my yes. Website says in stock...

    Did you know about this Greg?

    New to me, till your post. I’d consider this and skip the iPad upgrade I was thinking about...but the next teenage engineer thang, OP-Z is also tempting,

    @Kühl said:
    OMG wet dreams before Xmas

    This has totally fuct my plans.

    Now tell wife- "oh maybe return Circuit and MPC along with all the wires so I can get this........"

    That would go over well.

    I’m still on thin ice from my microfreak splash out 🤣😂🤣

  • echooperaechoopera

    We must all learn to bargain or slip it in quietly when no one is looking 😉

  • echooperaechoopera

    Had a great Sunday with the Deluge:

    Thanks as always for listening.

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited November 2022

    A little bit of atmosphere and peace for you all today:

    I’m using the Roland J-6 to assist with my Chords on the Deluge:

  • echooperaechoopera

    Another moody bit for Thursday:

  • echooperaechoopera
    edited March 2023

    Rainy days and going for a mood to capture it:

    https://on.soundcloud.com/SLCu4yVCUoc6MtKi7

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