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MID EAST DRUMMER by Luis Martinez - Demo & Tutorial Video

Here is my first demo run through for the latest app from Luis Martinez, Mid East Drummer

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  • edited December 2017

    Excellent. Look forward to seeing how you make out with connecting this up to external sounds. Happy happy Sir Doug.

  • Well, this sounds great...The price is a bit high in my opinion. It would be nice to have a bundle for these apps

  • edited December 2017

    @cuscolima said:
    Well, this sounds great...The price is a bit high in my opinion. It would be nice to have a bundle for these apps

    A niche market of a niche market I suppose...

  • My initial thought was I don’t need middle eastern drums - but then I heard your demo and it sounds wonderful! May have to reconsider.

  • I'm here to report that LMMED works great in tandem with DrumJam!

  • I thought I didn't need this because I have Drumjam. But after watching this, I am going to bite the bullet. Thanks Doug.

  • Somewhere I have a $50 gift card as part of my 5 years service award, that's that accounted for, nice one Doug and wishing a great holiday to you and yours.

    Quality stuff, worth the $.

  • @cuscolima said:
    Well, this sounds great...The price is a bit high in my opinion. It would be nice to have a bundle for these apps

    >

    Great quality, as always from this dev. But nearly £18.... :o

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @cuscolima said:
    Well, this sounds great...The price is a bit high in my opinion. It would be nice to have a bundle for these apps

    >

    Great quality, as always from this dev. But nearly £18.... :o

    I guess, just like him, we all have to figure out what our price point is....

  • @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I guess, just like him, we all have to figure out what our price point is....

    >

    Sure. I just don’t get why these apps are priced that high, especially for niche products.

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @JohnnyGoodyear said:
    I guess, just like him, we all have to figure out what our price point is....

    >

    Sure. I just don’t get why these apps are priced that high, especially for niche products.

    The more niche a product is, the fewer copies it's likely to sell, and so the less revenue the dev is likely to make. Niche products therefore need to be higher priced than mass-market ones in order to be economically viable to develop. Let's call this one boutique :)

  • @richardyot said:
    The more niche a product is, the fewer copies it's likely to sell, and so the less revenue the dev is likely to make. Niche products therefore need to be higher priced than mass-market ones in order to be economically viable to develop. Let's call this one boutique :)

    >

    It’s a sound theory. But I wonder how many more copies would be sold at £9.99.

    Even, a copy of this app, and another from the same dev. About £20 for a couple of great drum apps sounds good value, but the better part if £40 for the same apps means casual customers are going to shy away,

  • @Zen210507 said:

    @richardyot said:
    The more niche a product is, the fewer copies it's likely to sell, and so the less revenue the dev is likely to make. Niche products therefore need to be higher priced than mass-market ones in order to be economically viable to develop. Let's call this one boutique :)

    >

    It’s a sound theory. But I wonder how many more copies would be sold at £9.99.

    Even, a copy of this app, and another from the same dev. About £20 for a couple of great drum apps sounds good value, but the better part if £40 for the same apps means casual customers are going to shy away,

    I think it’d be hard to find another app that does this as well, and easily (based on Doug’s vid and the drummers I’ve used). For anyone wanting a nice, easy to create, changing ethnic drum backing this seems to have it nailed.

    I’ve bought a ton of drum apps over the years with this sort of thing in mind, and none sound or work as good as the one in this vid. Even my desktop Kontact stuff isn’t as fun and intuitive as this.

    I reckon it’s worth it, and there’s always room for a sale.

  • @MonzoPro said:
    I reckon it’s worth it, and there’s always room for a sale.

    >

    Yes please.

  • I think it sounds rather weird when there are repeating rolls per pattern, and too much variation, with the traditional sound sets. But for electronic music, using Mid East Drummer as a drum sequencer to trigger synths, it may work

  • @Zen210507 said:
    It’s a sound theory. But I wonder how many more copies would be sold at £9.99.

    Even, a copy of this app, and another from the same dev. About £20 for a couple of great drum apps sounds good value, but the better part if £40 for the same apps means casual customers are going to shy away,

    It's a good question, but Luis has plenty of experience in this market so I trust he knows how to maximize profit.

  • @lukesleepwalker said:
    It's a good question, but Luis has plenty of experience in this market so I trust he knows how to maximize profit.

    >

    A Happy New Year for him, then. :)

  • Has anyone figured out how to tune these drums?

  • I ran it through Ape Filer and Discord4... nice!

  • Lumbeat really makes the best drum instruments ever. I do wish they had even just an auv3 player where you can’t change settings or parameters like drum perfect pro but it’s no big deal since I use it standalone as well as with Cubasis which records IAA.

    One question I had is this:

    When midi clock syncing, how do you get it to play for the last bar that has the final cymbal crash after the final fill?

    Idk if that’s the proper term but Lumbeat usually has a bar of just a tail end of the last drum played, so when synced to midi it usually stops at the last bar abruptly.

    How do you let it play for one extra measure for the final ending fill ?

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    Lumbeat really makes the best drum instruments ever. I do wish they had even just an auv3 player where you can’t change settings or parameters like drum perfect pro but it’s no big deal since I use it standalone as well as with Cubasis which records IAA.

    One question I had is this:

    When midi clock syncing, how do you get it to play for the last bar that has the final cymbal crash after the final fill?

    Idk if that’s the proper term but Lumbeat usually has a bar of just a tail end of the last drum played, so when synced to midi it usually stops at the last bar abruptly.

    How do you let it play for one extra measure for the final ending fill ?

    Are you sending the command to playnthe fell and end while the clock is running? I wouldn't stop the midi clock until after it plays the fill and ends. It can't keep time if you stop the click before hand.

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Lumbeat really makes the best drum instruments ever. I do wish they had even just an auv3 player where you can’t change settings or parameters like drum perfect pro but it’s no big deal since I use it standalone as well as with Cubasis which records IAA.

    One question I had is this:

    When midi clock syncing, how do you get it to play for the last bar that has the final cymbal crash after the final fill?

    Idk if that’s the proper term but Lumbeat usually has a bar of just a tail end of the last drum played, so when synced to midi it usually stops at the last bar abruptly.

    How do you let it play for one extra measure for the final ending fill ?

    Are you sending the command to playnthe fell and end while the clock is running? I wouldn't stop the midi clock until after it plays the fill and ends. It can't keep time if you stop the click before hand.

    The command to start syncs perfectly to the tempo. The only thing is it stops exactly on beat. So do you mean to disable midi clock when I am close to stopping and hitting play end? Otherwise it stops exactly on beat without the crash ringing out

  • @yellow_eyez said:

    @espiegel123 said:

    @yellow_eyez said:
    Lumbeat really makes the best drum instruments ever. I do wish they had even just an auv3 player where you can’t change settings or parameters like drum perfect pro but it’s no big deal since I use it standalone as well as with Cubasis which records IAA.

    One question I had is this:

    When midi clock syncing, how do you get it to play for the last bar that has the final cymbal crash after the final fill?

    Idk if that’s the proper term but Lumbeat usually has a bar of just a tail end of the last drum played, so when synced to midi it usually stops at the last bar abruptly.

    How do you let it play for one extra measure for the final ending fill ?

    Are you sending the command to playnthe fell and end while the clock is running? I wouldn't stop the midi clock until after it plays the fill and ends. It can't keep time if you stop the click before hand.

    The command to start syncs perfectly to the tempo. The only thing is it stops exactly on beat. So do you mean to disable midi clock when I am close to stopping and hitting play end? Otherwise it stops exactly on beat without the crash ringing out

    Are you sending the drummer the midi command to fill and end while the clock is still running and letting that play out before you stop the clock?

  • edited March 30

    No, @espiegel123 I didn’t know you could send that command. Offhand do you know what it is called? (I tried with fill play/end but it still cut at the end of bar)

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    No, @espiegel123 I didn’t know you could send that command. Offhand do you know what it is called? (I tried with fill play/end but it still cut at the end of bar)

    I am unclear about what you are doing. Are you waiting till after the end fill has finished to stop the clock?

    Can you describe how everything is set up and what actions you are taking and when.

    There is a complete list of the MIDI commands in the panel that pops up when you tap on the MIDI icon.

  • I am simply arming my DAW, (already midi/clock synced with mid east drummer), hitting play, and it starts to record as normal

    Everything is working fine and normally

    My question is this: on the final ending crash it reverberates for a bar, but the midi clock stops recording/playing ONbeat. It doesn’t allow for that transient reverberation to be recorded

    I guess the only way to do it is to disable the midi clock out so when the song signals to stop it isn’t on the last beat, and I can trim the extra later

    If it’s unclear I’ll try to show you with a sound file

  • wimwim
    edited March 30

    @yellow_eyez, do you perhaps have Settings > Clock Settings > Pause Clock When Idle enabled, and so the clock is stopping when there are no longer any clips playing? If so, then you might want to turn that off to give you more control over when the transport stops. Or, you could add an empty "dummy" clip of one or more bars to have always running until you're done, then stop that. Or, add a widget to stop the clock after a bar. Or ...

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    I am simply arming my DAW, (already midi/clock synced with mid east drummer), hitting play, and it starts to record as normal

    Everything is working fine and normally

    My question is this: on the final ending crash it reverberates for a bar, but the midi clock stops recording/playing ONbeat. It doesn’t allow for that transient reverberation to be recorded

    I guess the only way to do it is to disable the midi clock out so when the song signals to stop it isn’t on the last beat, and I can trim the extra later

    If it’s unclear I’ll try to show you with a sound file

    set your sequence to end after that last cymbal crash has finished ringing. what DAW are you using?

  • Op-1 field and Cubasis

  • @yellow_eyez said:
    Op-1 field and Cubasis

    Make the sequence a measure or two longer. You can add events of some sort that have no sound so that Cubasis doesn’t stop the transport till the drummer app’s sound has died out.

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