Groove Rider GR-16 Released!

[Deleted User]

I believe there’s a wave quality setting in Cubasis project settings.

@stormbeats said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
The only thing I possibly want from this app now is to have its sound set up as AUs for other apps. Imagine this app gets me going on an idea, then I can just set up the sounds I’ve made in this as AU instances in BM3. The sound making method in this this is so simple and so effective - sounds just fall out of this app with little to no effort!

Good points you made - I imported some GR stems into bm3 & cubasis over the past few weeks - -the excellent sound engine from GR sounded sort of blunt/duller more mid range and lost the quality a bit - To my ears the GR stems sounded far better in Auria Pro very open sounding and didn't mess too much with the original sound I get from GR - that's just to my ear though.

[Deleted User]

@stormbeats said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
The only thing I possibly want from this app now is to have its sound set up as AUs for other apps. Imagine this app gets me going on an idea, then I can just set up the sounds I’ve made in this as AU instances in BM3. The sound making method in this this is so simple and so effective - sounds just fall out of this app with little to no effort!

Good points you made - I imported some GR stems into bm3 & cubasis over the past few weeks - -the excellent sound engine from GR sounded sort of blunt/duller more mid range and lost the quality a bit - To my ears the GR stems sounded far better in Auria Pro very open sounding and didn't mess too much with the original sound I get from GR - that's just to my ear though.

Yeah while I love the stems, they do need volume tweaking to export as they are accountable to the mixer. Love that the stems ditch the main fx as then I can mess with others later, but to have the main synth engine in BM3 I would pay for this as a stand alone app!

stormbeats

@MusicMan4Christ said:
I believe there’s a wave quality setting in Cubasis project settings.

@stormbeats said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
The only thing I possibly want from this app now is to have its sound set up as AUs for other apps. Imagine this app gets me going on an idea, then I can just set up the sounds I’ve made in this as AU instances in BM3. The sound making method in this this is so simple and so effective - sounds just fall out of this app with little to no effort!

Good points you made - I imported some GR stems into bm3 & cubasis over the past few weeks - -the excellent sound engine from GR sounded sort of blunt/duller more mid range and lost the quality a bit - To my ears the GR stems sounded far better in Auria Pro very open sounding and didn't mess too much with the original sound I get from GR - that's just to my ear though.

@MusicMan4Christ thanks for tip - I had Cubasis at 24bit if i remember correctly but anything I export into it seems to lose it's openess - GR sound engine is very good and I found Auria kept the sound far better matched - i look very forward to mixing these GR beats in Auria and doing all my arranging in GR - the new chain pattern export is a powerful option now.

stormbeats

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@stormbeats said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
The only thing I possibly want from this app now is to have its sound set up as AUs for other apps. Imagine this app gets me going on an idea, then I can just set up the sounds I’ve made in this as AU instances in BM3. The sound making method in this this is so simple and so effective - sounds just fall out of this app with little to no effort!

Good points you made - I imported some GR stems into bm3 & cubasis over the past few weeks - -the excellent sound engine from GR sounded sort of blunt/duller more mid range and lost the quality a bit - To my ears the GR stems sounded far better in Auria Pro very open sounding and didn't mess too much with the original sound I get from GR - that's just to my ear though.

Yeah while I love the stems, they do need volume tweaking to export as they are accountable to the mixer. Love that the stems ditch the main fx as then I can mess with others later, but to have the main synth engine in BM3 I would pay for this as a stand alone app!

+1 Jim is deep in the sound engine coding - sounds like hardware.

db909

@jimpavloff said:

@db909 said:
So I want to make a video of how to come up with stuff in this real fast, but I’m having trouble with the screen orientation using the screen recording on an iPhone. The app is landscape but the video displays portrait. Any tips? And would this be helpful for y’all in general?

Try to play around with orientation lock switch in iPhone settings. Maybe it would help.

Apparently 6s doesn’t do landscape recording. You or anyone know a good video editor app that’s free or cheap that will let me adjust the orientation?

Telstar5

@jimpavloff : Oh that would be SO great, thanks! And what @Fruitbart said re AU.

wim

@Fruitbat1919 said:
The only thing I possibly want from this app now is to have its sound set up as AUs for other apps. Imagine this app gets me going on an idea, then I can just set up the sounds I’ve made in this as AU instances in BM3. The sound making method in this this is so simple and so effective - sounds just fall out of this app with little to no effort!

Midi-out would cover this, no?

I custom midi-out mapping for notes (with preset save) would be important for this to work though.

[Deleted User]

@wim said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
The only thing I possibly want from this app now is to have its sound set up as AUs for other apps. Imagine this app gets me going on an idea, then I can just set up the sounds I’ve made in this as AU instances in BM3. The sound making method in this this is so simple and so effective - sounds just fall out of this app with little to no effort!

Midi-out would cover this, no?

I custom midi-out mapping for notes (with preset save) would be important for this to work though.

I’m not keen on running apps outside of BM3 when I’m working on it. Causes a disconnect to how things flow for myself. I tend to prefer working with one app at a time.

Admittedly it’s better since iOS 11 for switching between apps, but nothing beats having everything contained within BM3 IMO.

wim

@Fruitbat1919 said:

@wim said:

@Fruitbat1919 said:
The only thing I possibly want from this app now is to have its sound set up as AUs for other apps. Imagine this app gets me going on an idea, then I can just set up the sounds I’ve made in this as AU instances in BM3. The sound making method in this this is so simple and so effective - sounds just fall out of this app with little to no effort!

Midi-out would cover this, no?

I custom midi-out mapping for notes (with preset save) would be important for this to work though.

I’m not keen on running apps outside of BM3 when I’m working on it. Causes a disconnect to how things flow for myself. I tend to prefer working with one app at a time.

Admittedly it’s better since iOS 11 for switching between apps, but nothing beats having everything contained within BM3 IMO.

I read your post wrong. You're centered around the sounds, not the sequencing. nvm then.

[Deleted User]

awesome ideas guys!

Telstar5

@Fruitbat1919 : Ageed 100%:

stormbeats

@jimpavloff no bugs so far with chain pattern audio stems..all working well - just exported 16 with no problems.

[Deleted User]

When you export where do they go to?

@stormbeats said:
@jimpavloff no bugs so far with chain pattern audio stems..all working well - just exported 16 with no problems.

stormbeats

@MusicMan4Christ said:
When you export where do they go to?

@stormbeats said:
@jimpavloff no bugs so far with chain pattern audio stems..all working well - just exported 16 with no problems.

into a zip file and you choose where you want to save to ?
Dont know why i put a question mark "?" typing error - but yeah to the above.

[Deleted User]

Sweet! Thanks.

@stormbeats said:

@MusicMan4Christ said:
When you export where do they go to?

@stormbeats said:
@jimpavloff no bugs so far with chain pattern audio stems..all working well - just exported 16 with no problems.

into a zip file and you choose where you want to save to ?

db909

Should there be a “clear all parts” option?every now and then I find myself wanting to start from a blank slate for the music but with a whole kit of sounds I’ve already tweaked. Then again, you typically build new patterns one instrument at a time and it’s pretty easy to mute everything and then unmute and change as needed. I honestly don’t know. Is this a thing for anyone else?

Edit: nevermind. The more I think about it, the more i think it isn’t really necessary. Sorry to clutter up this already massive thread

gonekrazy3000

@jimpavloff any chance you could make a getting started video for utter noobs to hardware grooveboxes ? Coughlikemecough

stormbeats

@jimpavloff no rush at all considering all the great work you done - A cool feature would be the option to merge patterns into one - though that may not be possible due to the 4 bar limitation. Just a thought

DMfan

@gonekrazy3000 said:
@jimpavloff any chance you could make a getting started video for utter noobs to hardware grooveboxes ? Coughlikemecough

+1

That would awesome, I could really do with some guidance...

stormbeats

@DMfan said:

@gonekrazy3000 said:
@jimpavloff any chance you could make a getting started video for utter noobs to hardware grooveboxes ? Coughlikemecough

+1

That would awesome, I could really do with some guidance...

@DMfan Guidance = Guide your hands onto the pads and put your soul into them - on the flipside there are lots of tutorial on youtube - grooveboxes are the way forward - and so many affordable apps - in 1997 my Akai MPC cost £1'400. Now can do the same for far lot less - experiment / make errors/ learn/and lot of experienced beat makers willing to help - peace

gusgranite

@stormbeats said:

@DMfan said:

@gonekrazy3000 said:
@jimpavloff any chance you could make a getting started video for utter noobs to hardware grooveboxes ? Coughlikemecough

+1

That would awesome, I could really do with some guidance...

@DMfan Guidance = Guide your hands onto the pads and put your soul into them - on the flipside there are lots of tutorial on youtube - grooveboxes are the way forward - and so many affordable apps - in 1997 my Akai MPC cost £1'400. Now can do the same for far lot less - experiment / make errors/ learn/and lot of experienced beat makers willing to help - peace

I need to learn too. I was going to check out these Electribe for beginners vids for any similarities: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=electribe+beginners

[Edit: very variable quality there. A Groove Rider video series would be great]

stormbeats

@jimpavloff here's the Pro Tools Time Adjuster - used for sample widening Left/Right of a mono sample - might help if your thinking of ways to code similar effect at anytime.

jimpavloff

@stormbeats said:

@jimpavloff here's the Pro Tools Time Adjuster - used for sample widening Left/Right of a mono sample - might help if your thinking of ways to code similar effect at anytime.

Thanks! I already coded it yesterday. It will have 1 delay parameter, from -160 to +160 ms. Simple delay between left and right channels. Can be turned on independently for any part without wasting IFX or smth else.

stormbeats

@jimpavloff said:

@stormbeats said:

@jimpavloff here's the Pro Tools Time Adjuster - used for sample widening Left/Right of a mono sample - might help if your thinking of ways to code similar effect at anytime.

Thanks! I already coded it yesterday. It will have 1 delay parameter, from -160 to +160 ms. Simple delay between left and right channels. Can be turned on independently for any part without wasting IFX or smth else.

@jimpavloff wow thanks dude

Mark B

How good is this when it’s played back on a mono speaker system. I’ve found the Haas effect can cause phase issues and instruments can disappear.

stormbeats

@Mark B said:
How good is this when it’s played back on a mono speaker system. I’ve found the Haas effect can cause phase issues and instruments can disappear.

dude it's good as you want it to be - a good tip tho is to also keep the original mono audio on a seperate track pan=center retaining the original - then you can mix and blend

Telstar5

Jeez, when will it end ? At this point Grooverider will take over the world , surpassing I dunno, everything!

db909

@Mark B said:
How good is this when it’s played back on a mono speaker system. I’ve found the Haas effect can cause phase issues and instruments can disappear.

Just give it a good touch up with mono audio on in the device settings. I’m getting mixes lately that sound good coming out of the phone speaker if that tells you anything. It’s just as good anything provided you mixed decently. Shouldn’t be a concern

RJB

@jimpavloff
Thalnks for your continued development of GR-16. The apeggiator is so amazing at coming up with interesting phrases I’m wondering if in the future it could be used with Chords?

jimpavloff

@RJB said:
@jimpavloff
Thalnks for your continued development of GR-16. The apeggiator is so amazing at coming up with interesting phrases I’m wondering if in the future it could be used with Chords?

Set Arpeggiator Mode to "Trigger" to play chords in Arpeg mode.