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Modular synthesis with individual apps as modules

I'm aware of Audulus, Zmors, and the others, but I'm thinking of something different. Could ios eventually develop into a Eurorack-style platform in which individual apps could interact in a manner analogous to Eurorack modules, all linked into a complete modular synthesis system? With the recent release of Rozeta (midi LFOs) and Wavefolder, we are several steps closer.

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  • Max for live iOS is much more to my liking as for a new idea.

    I already have all the synths I think I really need.

    I just want operational continuity and consistency of interactions between apps.

    More ways to use my apps in a clean no crash way is the end game for my search.

    Jonathan is damn close with AUM so I expect the next generation of inter app hosts to be even better.

    Hopefully AB will sort out the issues sooner rather than later and others will enter the inter app communication game more readily with the advent of AU

  • edited December 2017

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    I'm aware of Audulus, Zmors, and the others, but I'm thinking of something different. Could ios eventually develop into a Eurorack-style platform in which individual apps could interact in a manner analogous to Eurorack modules, all linked into a complete modular synthesis system? With the recent release of Rozeta (midi LFOs) and Wavefolder, we are several steps closer.

    I don´t think so since in a modular rack everything should/could updates at audio rate. This is where the real magic begins (for me) with modular synths. Things like the wavefolder and Rozeta are awesome but tehy are more like adding FX rather than interacting modules within a modular rack-
    But if a thing like VCV rack had an iOS port it would be just there.
    But if you want connect apps with different apps and FX and midi etc. it´s already there.
    So i wonder what is missing here.
    It would be great if some iOS DAW´s make it more easy to create, save, copy and recall such things. AUM can do but it´s more to feed audio like Audiobus too.
    Indeed is Audiobus still one of the best ways to combine all the things. It´s even more easy to combine different DAW´s this way as on desktop for me (but there i don´t need it really since my prefered DAW offeres everything i need).

  • Something open like VCV rack would be cool. An environment where developers could contribute individual modules instead of discrete programs.

  • This is pure madness! :D

  • I sort of think of my ios set up as a 'modular' instrument already. I primarily use AUM, and with the dropping in of apps usually with a quality but limited range of functions: an instrument, or effects, step sequencer, and the like, it is a 'modular' workflow, albeit not in the same way Eurorack is of course.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Something open like VCV rack would be cool. An environment where developers could contribute individual modules instead of discrete programs.

    I'd love to see this as well but i think from looking at the sonicstate review it put a lot of strain on a high-spec macbook pro. Not sure ipads could run it effectively yet.

  • @Hosh said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Something open like VCV rack would be cool. An environment where developers could contribute individual modules instead of discrete programs.

    I'd love to see this as well but i think from looking at the sonicstate review it put a lot of strain on a high-spec macbook pro. Not sure ipads could run it effectively yet.

    But that might be because the code isn´t optimized yet for cpu usage and other stuff (the developer even said that somewhere on KVR i think).
    Optimizing things could be much better. Look at Korg which Arp Odyssey seems to kill cpu but i can run 8 or so instances from the Gadget version on my iPhone 6S plus.
    It´s still a beta.
    Also the macbooks are sadly a bit underpowered anyway.
    Otherwise i wonder because everything is there on iOS for such a workflow and apps can be connected together in general like you do it on a desktop or connecting hardware together.

  • @Cib said:

    @Hosh said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Something open like VCV rack would be cool. An environment where developers could contribute individual modules instead of discrete programs.

    I'd love to see this as well but i think from looking at the sonicstate review it put a lot of strain on a high-spec macbook pro. Not sure ipads could run it effectively yet.

    But that might be because the code isn´t optimized yet for cpu usage and other stuff (the developer even said that somewhere on KVR i think).
    Optimizing things could be much better. Look at Korg which Arp Odyssey seems to kill cpu but i can run 8 or so instances from the Gadget version on my iPhone 6S plus.
    It´s still a beta.
    Also the macbooks are sadly a bit underpowered anyway.
    Otherwise i wonder because everything is there on iOS for such a workflow and apps can be connected together in general like you do it on a desktop or connecting hardware together.

    Ah, actually you could be right. I was mistaking VCV with the Softube Modular i'd seen on Sonicstate.

  • Do you use zmors modular? That's what it does- modular synthesis, and it hosts AU's, so you can use you favorite effects and synths.

  • @Processaurus said:
    Do you use zmors modular? That's what it does- modular synthesis, and it hosts AU's, so you can use you favorite effects and synths.

    +1

  • edited December 2017

    somebody really told me "i dont need ios modulars, connectivity of different apps through AU3, AUM etc. is more than enough for me"

  • @Qmishery said:
    somebody really told me "i dont need ios modulars, connectivity of different apps through AU3, AUM etc. is more than enough for me"

    Well, when talking about modular sequencing that could be a very valid statement. Through AUM and various MIDI generators you can get a pretty complex free-form composition environment going. Ofcourse that doesn't cover the sound/signal aspect of modular synthesis, but it's quite comparable to modular CV mangling - except iOS makes it easier to have polyphony and multitimbrality.

  • Worth remembering the modularity of the AUx iteration of iVCS3

  • edited December 2017

    @brambos said:
    Well, when talking about modular sequencing that could be a very valid statement. Through AUM and various MIDI generators you can get a pretty complex free-form composition environment going. Ofcourse that doesn't cover the sound/signal aspect of modular synthesis, but it's quite comparable to modular CV mangling - except iOS makes it easier to have polyphony and multitimbrality.

    Perhaps. I don't see modular hardware-alike sequencing much on ios yet. I don't mean just stepseq (there are some, even with ratcheting?), i mean crazy modular sequencing like in hardware or max/msp, with sequencer switches, drifting clock dividers/multipliers, or/xor/and boolean logic, sequencing like make noise renee or buchla's polyrhythmic generator (though Patterning app is close to it) etc. and all of that working together

  • @Qmishery said:
    somebody really told me "i dont need ios modulars, connectivity of different apps through AU3, AUM etc. is more than enough for me"

    Yeah, i think that was similar to the point i was making a bit earlier in the thread too :)

  • @Processaurus said:
    Do you use zmors modular? That's what it does- modular synthesis, and it hosts AU's, so you can use you favorite effects and synths.

    I have zmors and audulus on my ipad but have never been able to get them to do anything. I just downloaded Automatonism on my PC yesterday and immediately got it sounding great. Here's what I made last night:

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