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Bias vs amp
I have a black star Id core 10 guitar amp....it's a decent $100 guitar amp....I was considering sending it back and just get positive grid's bias app.....does the app sound just as good as an amp?
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How are you going to use it? Bias is great if you mix right in the mix. There are tons of good tones you can’t get with Bias and some good impulse responses.
I'm just going to use bias with studio monitors
It is debatable among purists whether the iOS guitar sims have the same sound and warmth as a true amp. They aren't exactly a Kemper Profiler! But they definitely get the job done, and if you have the studio monitors already and a way to drive them (receiver, amp) then I think using Bias or my favorite ToneStack is a fine way to go.
On my setup I take my iPad and plug it into my friend's PA system when we play out. It works great, although I only have a short cable so have to stand near the amp stack. Next up is a long cord so I can stand in my place on the right side of the stage opposite where I have to stand now. It sounds awesome through the PA when overdriven, and when not calling for that I just plug in my acoustic.
GarageBand introduced some new amps in the last update worth checking out too.
I'm on a ipad4 which does not have ios11 which GarageBand requires
I doubt that Bias would be worse than Blackstar ID Core, which is also digital. Since you already have nice speakers, you should have no problem getting a good sound with Bias FX.
one hundred really isn't much and just a couple of tubes inside a box doesn't mean a thing.
All that warmth etc blurb
But even to capture the Blackstar's sound needs at least twice it's price in gear - and the whole process is influenced by the room acoustics.
A good amp simulation (as which I consider Bias in IOS) makes thing much easier.
To make it perfect add a bit of the AD480 reverb with a (very) small room setting.
I'm in need a good dock like the behringer is202 that has the lightning connected that has where you can also hook in your midi controller via USB......the is202 would of been perfect if it had the lightning connected but it doesn't.....do yo know of any good alternatives?
I have a multi-thousand-dollar (USD) guitar rig. I never use it any more as I have Bias AMP + Bias FX + all IAP's. I also have, if I need it, Tonestack with Motherload IAP as well as THM within Auria, should I need even more sounds, but honestly, the Bias cloud sounds combined with my own sounds cover pretty much anything and everything I need these days. My old guitar rig is now camping out in my garage. It should be noted I don't play live these days though, so can't give you fair comparison from that point of view, only that I was extremely sceptical to plugging my guitar into an iOS device instead of my "proper" rig, and now I'm not.
Doubleplus this very good advice.
Comparing the sound pumping directly out of a guitar cab and an amp sim coming out of studio monitors, no you're not getting quite the same effect. However, once you mic that cab and put it through the same monitors and compare that with the same amp sim, I think the differences is negligible if audible at all. The sound that ends up on a recording or what the audience hears is IMO just as good. So, yes there is a difference, but it's one that only really the player him or herself ever hears. I have a small Mesa rig and I choose Amplitube Mesa over hauling it around any day. Even at home Amplitube wins out for convenience. I think guitar amplifiers are an artifact of the past already at this point.
I have a real tube amp: Mesa Boogie Express Plus 5:25 and bulk of pedals. So I could compare this one with digital clones on iOS. And I should say that Bias, Amplitube and ToneStack are brilliant apps! Each of those apps sounds really good and I think you will not be disappointed!
I think you may be right. Lying in a room with 65 Fender Vibro-Champ, 72 Fender Twin, 63 Gibson Lark, and a Kustom and a Lane of uncertain eras, but I am far more inclined to play through the Flying Haggis or Tonestack that I am holding in my hand.
Will I get rid of the other ones? Of course not.
For playing live, I prefer my amp and pedals. I’ve used Bias live and it just didn’t have the same vibe.
For recording, I prefer iOS guitar apps. Bias is one of my favorites, and it sounds great in a mix.
Hang onto that Blackstar.
I like the iOS stuff, a lot. At a certain point, though, I realized that I just needed to work on my chops as a player. For that, nothing beats a physical amp that you can leave your guitar plugged into and just switch on. I keep my guitar on a stand instead of in a case for the same reason.
Ios amp sims are best used with real tube preamp or at least with real distortion pedals. Digital distortion just doesent sound the same as analog. Even simply putting an tubescreamer between guitar and interface when using bias makes a world of difference.
I love BIAS, probably the most tweaker friendly sim of the lot, but lately I've been digging THM and Saturn in Auria Pro, occasionally throwing in a little PRO-R 'Verb for some shimmer. Just tried the Guitar Rig demo on my Macbook Pro today, but it didn't really sound better than what I already have on iOS.
Admittedly, I'm a beginner at guitar -- Practicing w/ Yousician, barely level 5 so far at that, so my experience in guitar tone is a bit limited. I do think I recognize good sound when I hear it though, and wish we could eventually get a PC sim as good as Kemper. From what I've heard, nothing comes close.
Would wholeheartedly agree.. I picked up a Roland Cube 40gx for my first amp, which is decent, but thinking about selling it and getting a Blackstar. Haven't had a chance to demo one in person, but sounds incredible from the recordings I've heard.
famous misunderstanding: the Kemper Profiling Amp is a regular guitar amp simulation.
It's special feature is a measuring process, that autodetects proper level settings of some 2 dozen parameters (which have to be set by hand in Bias or similiar emulations).
Aside from that it's just a (very) good modeller - and it's not based on convolution.
But the developer (Christoph Kemper) is a passionate guitar player himself, though he made most of his cash with the Access Virus synth, one of the very first virtual analog synths.