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How do you load your own samples? As aforementioned, the preset sounds are a little flat or muddy.
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If you're on a version of iOS that has the files app, just move samples into the Groove Rider folder under "On my iPhone" or "On my iPad". If not then ... itunes + RTFM.
Direct AudioShare and Open-In functionality is on the way soon.
(fwiw, I think the included samples, especially for drums, are pretty bloody good)
I’m actually pretty impressed with the sounds... samples AND sampled wavs.
drops two cents in the bucket
great post with nice tips
Ahem.
The current price is £18.99.
Admittedly I don't use it as much as I'd like to. I don't have the patience for setting it up and I'm a stickler for programming rather than live performance which is why I'm such a Gadget fanboy and less of a Grooverider or Beatmaker... variety of easily accessible sounds and lightning fast sequencing workflow.
HOWEVER... if you've got an extra device like a phone or a second Ipad and Midiflow Grooverider a lot better than Beatmaker as an external sequencer. Dean here has done a phenomenal job of showing the benefits of having multiple devices synced up using Link and he showcases a variety of genre potentials.
Beatmaker on the other hand will give you a lot more in terms of pads, banks, pattern lengths and sound design using sampling. It's also an AU host.
Menu > Part > Import from Audioshare > Write pattern, repeat. You want to load samples to parts and save your configurations/kits as patterns. Unfortunately, the pattern saving is very unintuitive thanks to the lack of inbuilt menu options. Everything seems to be done by means of the write/shift write/copy etc. paradigm which is a pain in the ass for me personally, but others seem to really like it.
It is literally an Electribe 2 in an app. May or may not be a selling point. Honestly I own Poison202 and Grooveride and do not really see why people like them so much. Cheesy flashy interfaces with middle of the road virtual analog sounds. Average apps. I'd recommend Egoist if you want a more solid GrooveBox experience.
Cheesy and flashy, fair game. Average, though, hardly at all. Grooverider completely raised the bar. Even large well-established companies like Intua, Retronyms and Korg can barely compete with Jim Pavlov.
Weird. Intua made something really special with BM3. Gadget, despite it's walled garden aspect is also quite intricate and incredible. Retronyms - yea I'll give you that. Personally I just don't see what's special about Jims apps. I find the sound to be quite average and the parameters to shape said sound are rather limited and very basic.
Totally agree. It's a good price and a very basic synth engine. I used it off and on for about a week and now it's vanished back to the shadows of my appstore catalog.
I didn't mean to come off as insulting to Jim Audio. Some people love his work. I find it a bit trite and boring. Subjective, completely.
The point made here was that for a one-man operation, and a newcomer on the scene, up against to the collaborative efforts of the other well-established said development teams, Grooverider surpassed their products in significant ways, from a technical standpoint and in many other respects.
Besides, the MFX trackpad has a freakin vinyl brake.... That's so freakin badass
I don't see how it surpasses other similar products. It's a purely subjective thing. Vinyl Break and MultiFX pads are nothing remotely new. I'll say again, if the Korg E2 hadn't been invented 90% of this app would not exist either. There exists almost zero originality.
Wow I have to spell it out again...
Where to begin
P-locks
Midi in/out
All kinds of swing and random velocity settings
All kinds of filters
Combined sampler and synth
Timestretch for looped samples
More than 100 factory samples
More than 100 factory pattern presets
Custom skinning
All developed by one man
All for $20, half the price of what the others charge
And the point about the Electribe: part of the reason why everyone is hyped about this app is because the Ipad/Iphone is the perfect medium for this kind of workflow and frankly the UI is completely spot on (though I always though the jog wheel would have been better placed right of the LED screen.)
Anyway, Retronyms dropped the ball 3 times with their IMPCs. Beatmaker 3 is barely out of beta testing as far as I'm concerned. Korg made Ielectribe but never got around to giving us sample import or any kind of melodic controls, (instead they gave us Gadget which is forgivable).
Engineering a groovebox on IOS is no easy feat, the failures and shotcomings of the other mentioned apps is evidence enough. Grooverider got it right, right from the get-go.
I'm not saying you should like the app. But your argument that app specs are subjective has been debunked.
If after all the talk and videos that are out there, you’re still on the fence, then maybe it’s not for you. It’s ok if you’re just not into an app that a lot of people are into. No one will throw you in mobile music jail. For example, I’m not a big fan of Gadget. And nobody cares. So either give it a whirl for 19 bucks or just don’t use it. No big deal.
Weak argument ended with a winky face. Two posts in a row ended with winky faces. Henceforth, the Audiobus Forum Community shall only refer to @Dawdles as Mr. Winky. It hath been decreed.
Korg is doing a fine job. I have little reason to doubt their software will continue to improve and as iPads become increasingly commonplace and more powerful, overtaking laptops, Korg will have firm hold of the market share.
I'll give credit to Retronyms for doing a lot of the pioneering back in the early years. They're going to have to do the hard work of keeping their AudioCopy relevant to the new app ecosystem if they want to continue insisting that their customers use it with their apps. In the case of Retronyms/Akai I don't see their decisions as sound business practice. Lately they've been behind the curve on IOS but to be fair then they've also been getting into hardware. I wish they had focused instead on their flagship app being the MPC rather than all these other spinoffs but if that's what they're into then all the power to them, innovate!
It still doesn't stand out in any way. filters, custom skinning (lol) midi in/out is not unique, timestretch is not unique, oh thanks for the run of the mill preset bundle sounds lol. Parameter locks. Ok. this argument is so vanilla.
It's actually a solid argument as GrooveRider is a carbon copy of the korg E2.
is the swing global or per part?
Both! Global swing and Each part you can apply a groove template that affects timing and velocity
Solid indeed. You acknowledge that it delivers the functionality of a $400 piece of gear ... for $19.
Calling it "trite" was much more effective. Maybe you should quit while you're ahead.