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Protip: When you really want to piss off a woman, tell her she's just like her mother.
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Since I first visited, many years ago, I’ve always found the US an interesting contradiction in terms of what is allowed/ considered acceptable.
US radio, seems totally free speech, whereas US TV (the channels that are free to air) are super protected. Some even frown on using words such as damn.
Then there’s the quaint practice of referring to toilets as rest rooms. 
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Indeed it is. In my travels I have encountered many races and creeds, all of whom have their quirks. In the US, I found a very high level of kindness, civility and politeness among the decent folk from all walks of life and social levels. Almost everybody called me sir, despite my protestations that I have not - as yet - been knighted.
Hand-in-hand with that was a society often unsure of itself. I’ve said this in another thread awhile back, but I was the only foreigner in a country restaurant location somewhere in Pennsylvania, when the OJ Simpson verdict was announced on the omnipresent TV. The whole place went silent, and the waitress asked me “What do you think of that?” I replied, “Only in America.” The place then breathed again. I remember finding it so odd that the people would be interested in what a foreigner thought.
Back on topic, I recall attending an NYC Comic Convention, as a dealer when still in my teens, and becoming aware of the cache, in those days, of a nicely spoken British accent on local ladies. The lieutenant of the guy organising the con was a beautiful young woman called Joni. I was on my way across the floor to chat her up, when I heard a torrent of foul language stream from her to some underling who had displeased her. Language worse than many dockers. It was rather off-putting, so I gave her a miss.
that's because everybody there comes from somewhere else, and the world is a strange place.
Could do it in London Cockney Ryhming Slang?........ But only a few of us would .......... I mean a lot of people wouldn't have a "Scooby" in what I'm writing.
Lor' luv a duck! Why complain abaaaht da swearing. In da Puddin' Club does it. Know what I mean?
I can actually visualize that lol, they probably wondered if you thought oj Simpson was the first man in America to ever get away with murder in the American judicial system, or just the first black man to get away with murder in the American judicial system, or if you even thought there was a difference.
I remember people acting like the sky was falling and asking me what I thought and I would always reply the same way. I've seen people get away with murder in the judicial system before, even policemen.
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I remember privately thinking that he got away with murder, not because he was black, but because Johnnie Cochran played the race card. I could even see the twisted logic, not wanting to risk problems in wider society by convicting such a prominent black man of murdering a white woman.
But I agree with you, people of all stripes get away with terrible things. In the UK, there is a well established deeply routed establishment ‘machine’ whose purpose is to cover up child abuse, when crimes are committed by those sufficiently high in society. That often makes me swear.
oh for sure, I wasn't implying that he got away with murder because he was black, it was because he was black that America got away with outrage. It was a site to behold, people all over the place were acting like Johnnie Cochran invented the 'race-card' even though they knew better... the fake outrage is very reminiscent of the outrage over football players kneeling these days. America is very good at that, or maybe a better way to say it is that this kind of outrage is very prevalent in America.
Actually... Cochran used the Chewbacca Defense!
Regarding swearing, I guess our current levels are ok. When you see 'ugly words', people are actually giving intensity to their good emotions
... the fake outrage is very reminiscent of the outrage over football players kneeling these days. America is very good at that.
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Yeah, I must admit I don’t get that. I’d say more, but must respect the forum rule of not getting too political.
Instead, I’ll add a thought about swearing in music, and how some artists have managed to sneak in a word, past the censors. Such as, The Who, getting away with ‘who the fuck are you’, in ‘Who Are You.’ Also, the uncertainty as to whether Ray Davies actually sang ‘the air pollution is a fuckin’ up my eyes’ in ‘Apeman.’
politics....no way man, not on this forum
as far as swearing goes I swear less and less these days, there's just not much value in it as these days people already know the point you're trying to get across more so than not so why even bother... anyways I don't even think of the footballl player thing as politics it's more about history or lack there of... people are acting like the founding fathers put 'don't kneel' in the constitution or something rather than that the nfl and the defense department made a commercial deal in 2009 that started the practice in the first place.
It's history man.... too many people failing history class, the world needs to donate more history books to America so our kids won't be walking around thinking of defense contracts with commercial entities in 2009 as rules of heritage set in stone from the beginning of the nation..... history.
I don't think there has been a job I have worked, where swearing was non existent, even marginal. Two most engulfed places were: Factory work, and.......The hospitals I have worked at, and work at now. It's crazy.
Absolutely Monzo, ignorance & racial slurs offend me so much more than the garden variety 7 dirty words.
And speaking of George Carlin, I subscribe to his notions on profanity. It’s language, no different than other words in our vocabularies. But like everything else in life, there’s a time & place for it.
For instance, our vocabulary as musicians has many words & technical terms most people will never use or understand. In that vein, I wouldn’t arrive in the emergency room after breaking my leg and begin telling the doctors how it happened using a bunch of MIDI mapping metaphors, just as I probably wouldn’t call the nurse a ####ing a#####e for not giving me a straw with my bottle of luke warm hospital water.
Time and place, set and setting is up to the individual of course, but for me swearing in moderation to make a point or an exclamation is perfectly fine here in the forums.
I post the way I talk.
If I were to post different than I actually act or speak, isn't that trolling myself?
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Yep, that sounds right. All part of life’s rich pattern.
Apparently it is healthy to have a wee rest at least once every day.
The best bit of advice in this thread
Swearing is the best since humans can talk.
You can trust people that swear.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/swear-wearing-honesty-lie-more-honest-facebook-psychology-cambride-university-maastricht-hong-kong-a7512601.html
I read that yesterday, there was a link to it on the Drudge Report.
Even when you’ve never met her mother
I think it might be a tough call for common decency because we can’t all agree on its definition and because this is the internet. Overall we do good here but sometimes....Another problem is our mostly anonymity that gives us more liberties. If I were to swear and belittle anyone face to face there’s a better chance of shame and digust with myself arising that should effect my future behaviour. I’d be more inclined to seek out the one I hurt and say I’m sorry. On the internet because there is so much bad behaviour and humans love to mimic we have what we have......Still think it’s pretty good on this forum
I personally think swearing is crass and shows a limited vocabulary, and a general small mind, incapable of forming eloquent sentences with any serious thought. So, fuck this shit.. I’m out, you wankers.,.