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Yes no problem I will do that ; )This will take me some time as I have to do all midi assignment stuff in Loopy for Xequence using. I will make a version with Loopy HD, a version with both Loopy, and two alternate versions with Blocs wave added. In all cases it will uses AUM, and I will try to do AB3 and AB2 variants, if that latest does proper Loopy state saving, don’t tested it yet. Btw don’t even know if Loopy midi assignments are state saved in AB3 too, as it seems to me it’s not session relative. I will keep you informed.
Loopy/Loopy HD seems a good option and as a bonus you can make new loops as you go!
Just want add to my earlier posts regarding AUM to play loops - with the new Bookmarks ability you can name each channel, for example C#6 Funk Blast, and jump right to it from wherever you are in the many channels of samples. So it does take some setting up but ultimately it's pretty easy to navigate. Plus in AUM you can add different effects to each File Player.
Yes both options are nice IMO, and AUM will play wav/aiff so it’s better than Loopy here. Bookmarks are a very nice addition to AUM.
I’ve done more advanced tests with Xequence and AUM, Loopy and BeatHawk for audio loops midi triggering.
What I’ve found is that only BeatHawk truly works efficiently.
I’ve done an arrangement in Xequence to play some loops in those different contexts.
Setting up AUM is easy, all you have to do is to create a file player/Channel per loop in loop mode with no sync. Bookmarks are useful too for navigation. You have to use midi learn with one note for each file player. Then in Xequence, you can create midi parts to control them. This works, but there are however two issues:
So unfortunately AUM is not yet usable in that context with Xequence, except if you trigger only a certain kind of loops. Perhaps something can be done by the dev to add micro fade in/out while play/stop file players. I will report him that issue, as AUM has a nice potentiality with Xequence.
Loopy has worst issues. You have to uncheck mute count in/out option, or loop will start one bar or more later than Xequence midi part. You also have to start Xequence while loopy is already started, with one bar Link cycle, so if Loopy has 4 bar loops Xequence can start right in the middle of those loops. Not usable. The worst thing is that loops stay muted or unmuted even if you move on Xequence timeline, so you have to reset mutes manually all the time. And there are sometime audio clicks when loop stops like in AUM. A no go in that context, even if Loopy is a so wonderful app.
BeatHawk do the trick perfectly. You have to load BH in AUM and use AUM midi destination. Be sure to uncheck « send to selected pad » and « send Omni on pads » in BH settings. Then in Xequence you can create several instruments, one per pad/midi channel. You have to import loops in BH via iCloud/files/AudioShare. The thing works really reliably. A nice way to do arrangement in Xequence with audio loop and other BH instruments. There is a setup which allow for even more. BH iaa allow for one midi channel for one pad, but BH au allow only for omni midi with one channel for whole pads and a note per pad. This beat making mode is perfect for loops too. All you have to do is using Audiobus 3 and load midiflow adapter in midi in and BeatHawk as an audio unit in midi out. You can even create several instances to have more loops. Then, you can load BH iaa in AB audio panel to add melodic/polyphonic instruments capabilities with a channel per pad. Route everything to AUM. You will use BH au for loops and BH iaa for more complex instruments from those nice iaps. It’s needed to load iaa first with BH omni pad mode unchecked, and then open BH au and check this option again. This allow iaa/au to keep the good setting. AB3 will state save things/settings properly.
I’ve bought BM2 again, but truly has some issues with UI and workflow. I don’t like to click on buttons all the time to be able to do things on different windows. Screen space using is pretty bad too. But it should works as BeatHawk.
BTW Xequence is really very fast to work with. I don’t usually really like timeline production, but this app is very easy to use and powerful at the same time. Screen using is one of the best I’ve find on iPhone with nice zoom reduction capabilities and thin toolbars. Nice!!
The way I’ve found to create new sound content while doing arrangement in Xequence is to use Blocs wave or Loopy with Link, all you have to do is to export loops for Xequence triggering at a later stage. You can also use Gadget and Zurich with midi sync in absolute mode. You will import loops later in BH or even AUM file players if these are solo parts.
Ok it’s not a real daw as a multi app setup, but Xequence is really a nice and powerful midi sequencer and worth it IMO. You will be able to arrange your midi parts for all apps/contents in one and only window for proper visualisation.
Yes. Very thorough and important info. Thanks!
Thanks for the detailed posts, @Janosax !
I'm very late to the Beathawk party, but finally started using it after buying sound packs during their IAP sale. I'm encouraged to keep exploring Beathawk.
Wow
Here is the Audiobus 3 preset:
Audiobus preset 'Beathawk Xequence': http://preset.audiob.us/YWrTb9rzZDy7i49
There is a special routine to be sure that BeatHawk IAA and BeatHawk AU use proper midi settings. You have to set BeatHawk standalone a first time with « send to selected pad » and « send omni on pads » unchecked. Then apply the routine each time you use AB3 preset. This takes one minute, not ideal but that works:
Launch AB3
Launch preset BeatHawk Xequence
Launch AUM and be sure BH IAA is lauched too.
Go to AB3 midi and launch midiflow adapter
Launch BH AU and uncheck « send omni on pads »
Launch Xequence... enjoy!!
I’ve made a short video to illustrate that process.
I’ve done Xequence arrangement with midi parts for BH IAA only, but I can create midi tracks for each BH AU pad/note too. For multiples BH AU, just choose one midiflow adapter per BH instance and create additional routing in AB3 midi panel, then create new midi instruments in Xequence.
As an alternative, if you want an easier setup, which works without entering in BH setup each time, you can use BH IAA in AUM to use both loops and instruments. It’s pretty straight forward and is more than enough if you don’t need more than 16 pads.
Seriously generous boffinery @Janosax !
Thanks. What means « boffinery »? I’m french so don’t know all english words, and can’t find any translation for that one, seems to be not common.
It means your great! Your awesome! That is super cool! Your a mad genius. LOL.
Thanks for translation
He has it about right. Boffin is a slang equivalent for 'mad scientist' and is said with respect, affection and confusion
I’ve made a short video audio click issue with AUM file players via Xequence, and sent mails to both devs. Hope this will fixed, both apps works together very well despite this.
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@Janosax: unless I am mistaken, BH as an AU can now use one MIDI channel per pad.
This is an old thread but may be worth with a wee update:
I've started to make music on my ipad and using xequence 2, AUM & various music apps.
A lot of this is new to me and until now have a working modular DAW system.
The missing piece was using a decent sampler app and using something something like BM2/3 or Beathawk seemed to go against the idea of using something modular.
I discovered Koala (https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1449584007?mt=8 )
This app is perfect for me as a sampler because it's does everything I need from it (sampling, export, import, load/Save...) and is fully midi compatible - I can assign it a midi channel in AUM and then use the "drumpad" keyboard in Xequence 2 to play individual samples.
Very happy with my setup now
I would like to trigger audioloops and timestretch the loops to match bpm. I don’t think Koala can....
Which app would be best to do this in Xequence2?
Look at sEGments
@audiblevideo thanks, will check. Is egoist from sb able to do this too?
From sEGments:
I looked through the setting, but I don’t think there’s a way to trigger Egoists internal playhead via midi (caveat - that I can find). It does time stretch though.
The best Egoist has is a trigger to turn the slicer on and off. You can set up a toggle so that a key press (note) turns it on and off. Egoists playhead keeps running though.
Thanks for the advice! Segments looks nice and might get me what I need.
Video on timestretch starts at 7:36
If your loops are in AppleLoops format (which BeatMaker and Auditor can export), BeatHawk can do this.
Cat skinned.
(I have a physical reaction when I use or hear this expression. Is there a saying that’s like this but not so visceral?)