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Changing time signatures on iOS sequencers

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  • @hellquist yes unfortunately that's correct, there is no time signature or tempo track in Xequence, but it does support any odd time signature if you can keep to it in the entire song.

  • Yeah it looks like 7/4 isn't possible in Auria, a bit of an oversight I would say!

  • FWIW: I added it to the wishlist thread over at Auria forums. I did notice there were others that had requested the same over the years though so I should perhaps not hold my breath whilst waiting.

  • @Telstar5 said:
    Absolutely . It’s crazy . Even pop music has odd meter bars “All You Need is Love @.

    Lots of other Beatles songs, too. Almost every song by Burt Bacharach. .,,,,

  • @supadom said:

    @u0421793 said:

    @supadom said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    Yes it is but desktop DAWS are not neccesarily geared towards EDM. IOS apps should not be “geared” towards anything IMO. Just leave the “gearing“ up to us, the musicians .

    Agreed. I’d be pretty pissed off if my piano only played major chords ;)

    @supadom said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    Yes it is but desktop DAWS are not neccesarily geared towards EDM. IOS apps should not be “geared” towards anything IMO. Just leave the “gearing“ up to us, the musicians .

    Agreed. I’d be pretty pissed off if my piano only played major chords ;)

    Better than those inferior minor ones though.

    Not as bad as diminished

    Augmented are obviously the best, and slash chords are “killer”.

  • Just choose 2/4 with a fast bpm and treat every bar as a beat. Program your own click with a woodblock sound and you can have any time sig you want.

  • Auria has 7/8 in the dropdown menu for time signature.
    Personally I’ve come to ignore the timeline as mostly I don’t make music that needs to be strictly on a grid. Auria has all the tools if you want to do that, but it’s fiddly and a bit buggy in my experience. MTS does it better. If you’re working mostly with midi MTS might be the best option as it has an all tracks view option for midi editing. Workong with audio is just annoying in MTS because of the clunky interface.

  • At the desired tempo, you could ignore bar count, make your own click/drum track split at sections and just follow that. So the problem isn't that we can't do multiple time signatures, it's that the doing is clunky if the app isn't designed for it.

  • Lumbeats and several other apps like metronomes can give you time sigs and tempos, but yes clunky.

  • @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    Just choose 2/4 with a fast bpm and treat every bar as a beat. Program your own click with a woodblock sound and you can have any time sig you want.

    That's a workaround for time signatures only, but tempo change is even more important than time signatures.

  • @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    Just choose 2/4 with a fast bpm and treat every bar as a beat. Program your own click with a woodblock sound and you can have any time sig you want.

    That's a workaround for time signatures only, but tempo change is even more important than time signatures.

    Hey, I got you halfway there. Now it’s your turn...

  • edited January 2019

    @pichi said:
    Auria has 7/8 in the dropdown menu for time signature.
    Personally I’ve come to ignore the timeline as mostly I don’t make music that needs to be strictly on a grid. Auria has all the tools if you want to do that, but it’s fiddly and a bit buggy in my experience. MTS does it better. If you’re working mostly with midi MTS might be the best option as it has an all tracks view option for midi editing. Workong with audio is just annoying in MTS because of the clunky interface.

    MTS meaning multi track studio? Also, both Stagelight and NS2 have this capability.

  • @Telstar5 said:

    @pichi said:
    Auria has 7/8 in the dropdown menu for time signature.
    Personally I’ve come to ignore the timeline as mostly I don’t make music that needs to be strictly on a grid. Auria has all the tools if you want to do that, but it’s fiddly and a bit buggy in my experience. MTS does it better. If you’re working mostly with midi MTS might be the best option as it has an all tracks view option for midi editing. Workong with audio is just annoying in MTS because of the clunky interface.

    MTS meaning multi track studio? Also, both Stagelight and NS2 have this capability.

    That's right. I'm not familiar with the other 2 as I prefer the traditional type DAW.

  • I'm surprised that even in 2019, the easiest and most obvious solutions are rarely used:
    1. Entering user scales on a 12-key virtual keyboard instead of scrolling through an endless list
    2. Being able to set the "last step" inside a bar or pattern instead of restricting the choice to whatever came into the developer's mind at the time of writing

    I hereby kindly ask developers to give us more freedom to write our own music :p

  • Thanks for suggestions. However my regular workflow (for other time signatures) is to have DrumperfectPro running in synced mode to Auria. Obviously I love both Auria and DPP and would like to get this to work, however all the creative solutions sort of miss the point of song positioning and being able to start/stop from any given song position, in sync with other apps.

    When my tunes are nearing completion I then add/edit/delete drums to make the drums and other instruments bond tighter before committing them in Auria for proper mixing. All of this usually works completely glitch free, until I started doing this tune which required 7/4 in parts.

  • You can also try Stagelight. I really wish we had better support for at least a few more basic time signatures. It’s a huge oversight on the iOS developers side. Some people care, but really most could care less and so it seems to get left out, overlooked, or given in very few options. I tend to just stick with one time signature the whole way through, as it’s such a pain adding in a few different bars here and there.

    I’m branching out from iOS a bit soon most likely and even on some old Mac with the free GarageBand it looks like I’ll be able to throw in time signatures where ever I want.

  • @hellquist said:
    Thanks for suggestions. However my regular workflow (for other time signatures) is to have DrumperfectPro running in synced mode to Auria. Obviously I love both Auria and DPP and would like to get this to work, however all the creative solutions sort of miss the point of song positioning and being able to start/stop from any given song position, in sync with other apps.

    When my tunes are nearing completion I then add/edit/delete drums to make the drums and other instruments bond tighter before committing them in Auria for proper mixing. All of this usually works completely glitch free, until I started doing this tune which required 7/4 in parts.

    Curious about which ways choosing 7/8 in Auria isn't working for you. Genuinely—I'm pretty Ramones about this stuff.

  • @TheOriginalPaulB said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    Just choose 2/4 with a fast bpm and treat every bar as a beat. Program your own click with a woodblock sound and you can have any time sig you want.

    That's a workaround for time signatures only, but tempo change is even more important than time signatures.

    Hey, I got you halfway there. Now it’s your turn...

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:

    @TheOriginalPaulB said:
    Just choose 2/4 with a fast bpm and treat every bar as a beat. Program your own click with a woodblock sound and you can have any time sig you want.

    That's a workaround for time signatures only, but tempo change is even more important than time signatures.

    Hey, I got you halfway there. Now it’s your turn...

    @TheOriginalPaulB Thats a great idea, thanks !

  • I think the take away here is that Modstep and Patterning are awesome.

  • @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    I’m just saying if the Alesis MMT8 could do it .That sequencer was $200 usd. Yes Airia can do it and Modstep but the happy answer here is NS2. Thank you @jwmmakerofmusic for supplying that .

    No problem mate. I heard from one of the beta testers that NS2 is being finalised and polished into a proper product. :)

    Audio tracks you say???

  • @espiegel123 said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    Absolutely . It’s crazy . Even pop music has odd meter bars “All You Need is Love @.

    Lots of other Beatles songs, too. Almost every song by Burt Bacharach. .,,,,

    ...most Queen songs that were written by Freddie Mercury..:the list goes on...

    It took some time for time signature changes to be fully available in some desktop DAWs too. It’s a pain to have to think of everything in 4/4.

  • @NoiseHorse said:

    @jwmmakerofmusic said:

    @Telstar5 said:
    I’m just saying if the Alesis MMT8 could do it .That sequencer was $200 usd. Yes Airia can do it and Modstep but the happy answer here is NS2. Thank you @jwmmakerofmusic for supplying that .

    No problem mate. I heard from one of the beta testers that NS2 is being finalised and polished into a proper product. :)

    Audio tracks you say???

    I wrote the quoted reply over three years ago, so what are you on about?

  • @jwmmakerofmusic sorry man, I gotta get my glasses checked! I’ll go back to my crochet work now..

  • @NoiseHorse said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic sorry man, I gotta get my glasses checked! I’ll go back to my crochet work now..

    Lol! Cheers mate. :) Back 3 years ago, I had no clue that we'd still not have audiotracks now. It does limit what I can do within Nanostudio 2 itself, but I can record vocals in Cubasis and import them into NS2. Not ideal, but it works for now.

  • @NoiseHorse said:
    @jwmmakerofmusic sorry man, I gotta get my glasses checked! I’ll go back to my crochet work now..

    Ha ha ha haha !!

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