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OP-Z Is Imminent (Sort Of)

And imminent, at least according to tweets from people like Jeremy Blake (also known as the Red Means Recording guy), means it'll be available in May. You can preorder on Sweetwater, and when I checked last night, the price was listed as $599. But now there is no price, so read into that what you will.

What's weird/interesting about the thing (now known as a "16-track synthesizer," which is also interesting), is that the iPad seems to be its primary connective device. There's a dedicated OP-Z app. It also does lighting and animation cues or something. I don't totally get it.

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  • According to TE website it will soon go into beta. Planned specs include...

    instrument tracks
    16 individual and independent synthesis, sampler and control tracks.

    kick
    snare
    percussion
    sampler
    bass
    lead
    arpeggio
    chords
    FX slot 1
    FX slot 2
    tape
    mixer
    midi
    cv & trig
    light
    motion
    patterns
    160 user programmable patterns
    endless patterns chaining

    effects
    upgradeable modular effects architecture. included effects: delay, reverb, filters, tremolo etc.

    step components
    14 multi-program step components for advanced step sequencing.

    screen
    when paired or connected to an ios device, the ios device will act as a screen for OP-Z.

    ios app
    OP-Z ios app will be free to download from app store.

  • is there any info on the sampler?

  • Why do I need this if I already have an ipad?

  • I’ve cured my GAS a while ago.

  • @supadom said:
    I’ve cured my GAS a while ago.

    ‘Free of GAS. Free of GAS. Thank God Almighty, I’m free of GAS.’
    -Audiogus, just now

  • edited February 2018

    ...:)

  • The price announcement, absence at NAMM, release delays, and TE’s intention to include a content store in the companion app seems to have killed the OP-Z hype for a lot of people. But I’m giving TE the benefit of the doubt because I adore every “hipster toy” I’ve ever bought from them.

  • TE gave OPZ update in last week’s newsletter so I am confident this is close.

  • i'm a bit on the fence with this one.. its so damn small!
    i will probably buy one if it turns out to be killer but the idea of using the ipad is a bit meh. A big problem with the OP1 for TE is theyve had a lot of trouble securing the OLED screens (rumour is thats why it went up in price over the years).

    I have an OP1 and love it, not going to sell it. So dont know if I have room for both in my small studio.

    Just bought a Digitone, was easier to pull the trigger when i saw the OPZ price the other day..

    The new PO's are amazing though

  • edited February 2018

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Why do I need this if I already have an ipad?

    That's exactly what I thought too - shelling out $599 asks for a better reason than pure GAS.
    I believe that its success will depend on how well you can become friends working with the OP-Z standalone.
    No matter if I'm on the train, on a holiday trip, on the couch or in the bed, using more than one device is always very cumbersome to handle, so I'll choose the one I can have the most fun with.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @Wrlds2ndBstGeoshredr said:
    Why do I need this if I already have an ipad?

    That's exactly what I thought too - shelling out $599 asks for a better reason than pure GAS.
    I believe that its success will depend on how well you can become friends working with the OP-Z standalone.
    No matter if I'm on the train, on a holiday trip, on the couch or in the bed, using more than one device is always very cumbersome to handle, so I'll choose the one I can have the most fun with.

    And this is why I love the screen on the OP1.. and why I am hesitant about the lack of screen on the OPZ.
    Also those keys arent going to be great for live playing :neutral:

  • @mireko_2 said:
    i'm a bit on the fence with this one.. its so damn small!
    i will probably buy one if it turns out to be killer but the idea of using the ipad is a bit meh. A big problem with the OP1 for TE is theyve had a lot of trouble securing the OLED screens (rumour is thats why it went up in price over the years).

    I have an OP1 and love it, not going to sell it. So dont know if I have room for both in my small studio.

    Just bought a Digitone, was easier to pull the trigger when i saw the OPZ price the other day..

    The new PO's are amazing though

    what do you like most about the new PO's?

  • edited February 2018

    @AudioGus said:

    @supadom said:
    I’ve cured my GAS a while ago.

    ‘Free of GAS. Free of GAS. Thank God Almighty, I’m free of GAS.’
    -Audiogus, just now

    That was the 'free of GAS' better me talking. ;)

    But seriously, I'm not massively attracted to the calculator style micro machines. I know that on the whole the hardware has the potential to feel more like an instrument but the tiny button dance is not for me.

    This could be because I'm from the generation that used Roland XP and other 2-line LCD driven button laden machines as my workstations. I just refuse to go back to the menu driven cave.

    I can see the appeal for people who have never experienced it as well as well as those who have emotional attachment to similar boxes.

    IPad/laptop with a physical controller is on the whole is a much more practical option imo. So yeah, I see these boxes as a product directed at a hipster layer of society. Which is not to say there isn't a fetish element involved and I'm definitely attracted by buttons, blinking leds, LCD animations and misterious looking exterior. I'm a geeky musical human with a desire to fiddle, after all.

    I'm not biting though. Just watching.

  • @kobamoto said:
    what do you like most about the new PO's?

    I've never been a fan of the POs, but the PO-35 "Speak" looks interesting indeed.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    what do you like most about the new PO's?

    I've never been a fan of the POs, but the PO-35 "Speak" looks interesting indeed.

    This

  • edited February 2018

    @kobamoto said:

    @mireko_2 said:
    i'm a bit on the fence with this one.. its so damn small!
    i will probably buy one if it turns out to be killer but the idea of using the ipad is a bit meh. A big problem with the OP1 for TE is theyve had a lot of trouble securing the OLED screens (rumour is thats why it went up in price over the years).

    I have an OP1 and love it, not going to sell it. So dont know if I have room for both in my small studio.

    Just bought a Digitone, was easier to pull the trigger when i saw the OPZ price the other day..

    The new PO's are amazing though

    what do you like most about the new PO's?

    Bitspeek in HW. Amazing. Big fan of the voice synthesis. Love the way you can slow the rate of the playback and play the voice play back..
    The Tonic drum engine is a cool bonus

  • ^that was fun

  • @mireko_2 said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @mireko_2 said:
    i'm a bit on the fence with this one.. its so damn small!
    i will probably buy one if it turns out to be killer but the idea of using the ipad is a bit meh. A big problem with the OP1 for TE is theyve had a lot of trouble securing the OLED screens (rumour is thats why it went up in price over the years).

    I have an OP1 and love it, not going to sell it. So dont know if I have room for both in my small studio.

    Just bought a Digitone, was easier to pull the trigger when i saw the OPZ price the other day..

    The new PO's are amazing though

    what do you like most about the new PO's?

    Bitspeek in HW. Amazing. Big fan of the voice synthesis. Love the way you can slow the rate of the playback and play the voice play back..
    The Tonic drum engine is a cool bonus

    Any app that can do the more or less same in iOS? I tought there's something called frekuents or something. KInd find it though?

  • @mannix said:

    @mireko_2 said:

    @kobamoto said:

    @mireko_2 said:
    i'm a bit on the fence with this one.. its so damn small!
    i will probably buy one if it turns out to be killer but the idea of using the ipad is a bit meh. A big problem with the OP1 for TE is theyve had a lot of trouble securing the OLED screens (rumour is thats why it went up in price over the years).

    I have an OP1 and love it, not going to sell it. So dont know if I have room for both in my small studio.

    Just bought a Digitone, was easier to pull the trigger when i saw the OPZ price the other day..

    The new PO's are amazing though

    what do you like most about the new PO's?

    Bitspeek in HW. Amazing. Big fan of the voice synthesis. Love the way you can slow the rate of the playback and play the voice play back..
    The Tonic drum engine is a cool bonus

    Any app that can do the more or less same in iOS? I tought there's something called frekuents or something. KInd find it though?

    not that i know of, this code is by Magnus Linstrom.. he's awesome. So it actually re-encodes your speech into a synthesis engine. not a sampler per se. then you can play around with rate, formant, pitch, and speed. It was inspired by the speak and spell

    Closest is probably the voice synth in ds10, but that isnt a sample, thats a text to speech synthesizer.

  • @rs2000 said:

    @kobamoto said:
    what do you like most about the new PO's?

    I've never been a fan of the POs, but the PO-35 "Speak" looks interesting indeed.

    agree.. not ever been that interested in the older PO series. Mainly because they locked you to one scale. These new ones have changeable scales and sampling. Big improvement. Also sync with the OP1 and Volca series. Very cool!

  • iVoxel is probably the most appropriate match. Has both pitch, time, formant shifting, a "breath mode", and what's even better, MIDI control.
    It runs on an old iPhone (iOS7) too so that may even be a cheaper, more compact and much more powerful package.
    I guess that most of the sounds you get out of PO-35 can be done with iVoxel too.

    Voice Synth does something similar, it also offers different "Voice Modes", but you cannot stretch the phrase in time because it's "only" a kind of a vocoder.

  • Op-z sequencing is just bonkers. That’s the draw for me. It can create randomized bass patterns based on the scale/key, and easily create polyrhythms for drums. Could be the dream tool for creating ambient stuff.

    $599 seems a bit high. I think I’ll wait to see what kind of music gets made on it before dropping that kind of money.

  • nice to have something like this in some tiny hardware, change up the workflow

  • Not sure but seems to me that the ipad is only used as a screen with added stuff like visual fx?

  • @rs2000 said:
    iVoxel is probably the most appropriate match. Has both pitch, time, formant shifting, a "breath mode", and what's even better, MIDI control.
    It runs on an old iPhone (iOS7) too so that may even be a cheaper, more compact and much more powerful package.
    I guess that most of the sounds you get out of PO-35 can be done with iVoxel too.

    Voice Synth does something similar, it also offers different "Voice Modes", but you cannot stretch the phrase in time because it's "only" a kind of a vocoder.

    I have iVoxel, 'tis good.. but PO35 sounds great. It's all about the sound at the end of the day :smile:

  • @paradiddle said:
    Not sure but seems to me that the ipad is only used as a screen with added stuff like visual fx?

    Yes that is right

  • @ion677 said:
    Op-z sequencing is just bonkers. That’s the draw for me. It can create randomized bass patterns based on the scale/key, and easily create polyrhythms for drums. Could be the dream tool for creating ambient stuff.

    $599 seems a bit high. I think I’ll wait to see what kind of music gets made on it before dropping that kind of money.

    Yes this is the best thing about it I think too, the ability to transpose all instruments to a different key is also very cool

  • @mireko_2 said:

    @paradiddle said:
    Not sure but seems to me that the ipad is only used as a screen with added stuff like visual fx?

    Yes that is right

    Though the website mentions that the synth engine is ported to the iOS app for “dual [something or other] synthesis”

  • I’ve heard that the iPad might be used as a sound store, and for preset sharing.

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